O Hara's Stout

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Heroditas

Far superior to all three of them in my opinion!

Slattsy

Not a patch on any of them in my opinion !!

Not even in the same galaxy as Guinness.

Seaneh

O'Hara's is a much better stout than the 3 major brands, one of the bets produced on the Island, I prefer it to Shandon or any of the 3 regular productions from Porter House.

BeerNut

In a blind tasting of draught, I found O'Hara's and Murphy's were equal best with Guinness and Beamish equal worst.

In bottles, IIRC, Carlow's M&S Stout and Whitewater Belfast Black came out on top. Guinness was way down the list, well below O'Hara's. Beamish and Murphy's weren't included as they couldn't be got in non-nitro bottle form.

rubadub

Slattsy wrote: »

Not a patch on any of them in my opinion !!

I presume/hope! you mean the opposite of that, "not a patch" would mean it is nowhere near as good as any of them.

I much prefer it, shame it is not in more places. I was staying in a hotel in carlow (its brewed there) and was delighted to see it. I was lashing them down and when I came back from the toilet later on my mate said the barman had been laughing at me saying "nobody drinks that sh*te around here"

BaZmO*

Depends what you want from a beer I suppose. If you want to chug down a load of beers well then Guinness, Murphy's and Beamish would be the way to go. But if you want lots of flavour well then O'Hara's your only man.

Benny_Cake

Aquila wrote: »

Whats this like compared to Guinness,Murphy's and Beamish?
Is it a better tasting stout?worth the price you will find in stores?

Better than all three in my opinion, I prefer O'Haras Leann Follain myself but it's a little strong to be a session beer (for me, anyway!). Belfast Black is lovely too. I've only recently discovered the joy of bottled stouts and Guinness tastes extremely bland now.

Ziphius

rubadub wrote: »

I was staying in a hotel in carlow (its brewed there) and was delighted to see it.

Which hotel was this? I live in Carlow and have never seen it on sale in any pubs or bars. Which is a shame as, like most of the other posters, I feel that it is far superior to Guinness and most other stouts.

Seaneh

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Better than all three in my opinion, I prefer O'Haras Leann Follain myself but it's a little strong to be a session beer (for me, anyway!). Belfast Black is lovely too. I've only recently discovered the joy of bottled stouts and Guinness tastes extremely bland now.

Bottled guinness Extra and Foreign Extra are actually lovely

Ravelleman

I´d go O´Haras every time, especially since Guinness isn´t actually that cheap in a lot of places. To me the flavour of O´Haras is much fuller. Leann Follain is also a thing of beauty especially when consumed at warmer temperatures.

Focalbhach

Another vote for O'Hara's here over Guinness or Beamish. I actually quite like Murphy's, although I don't come across it too much. Belfast Black and Knockmealdown Porter are well worth trying if you haven't come across them before for variations on the theme.

Martyn1989

BeerNut wrote: »

Beamish and Murphy's weren't included as they couldn't be got in non-nitro bottle form.

I know you said bottle but Beamish comes in a non-nitro can, Supervalue Raheny is the only place I've seen it, got one a while ago and enjoyed it.

Anyone know if Murphy's do a non-nitro can/bottle?

rubadub

Ziphius wrote: »

Which hotel was this?

it was the Lord Bagenal

Ziphius

rubadub wrote: »

it was the Lord Bagenal

Great. Thanks. I must head over some time.

Ruben Remus

O'Hara's Leann Follain is superb - hands down the best stout in Ireland, in my opinion.

dan1895

Haven't tasted any of the Carlow stouts but if the ales and beer are anything to go by I'd say they're quality. Must try some soon.

oblivious

Ruben Remus wrote: »

O'Hara's Leann Follain is superb - hands down the best stout in Ireland, in my opinion.

yes one of the best, there are a few though ;)

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Tube

Aquila wrote: »

Whats this like compared to Guinness,Murphy's and Beamish?
Is it a better tasting stout?

That's completely subjective, and only you can answer that. Of the four mentioned Guinness has the least flavour, but that doesn't mean it's a bad stout. My personal preference would be for Beamish or O'Hara's, but they are not particularly similar. I like them for different reasons.

themandan6611

a shout out to Black Rock Stout anyone ? its beautiful

and while a porter knockmedown is yummy

Herb Powell

O'Hara's Stout and Leann Follain are both great (though I prefer the stout), but I also really like Beamish. If O'Hara's was available on tap, I'd definitely drink it, but being that I live in Cork, Beamish and Murphy's are everywhere. I don't buy Guinness ever :D

Frozen_Rainbow

Oy yeah Ireland land of Stout.
As i wrote one time, draught Beamish , Murphy´s and O´Haras are genius Stouts in my eyes difficult to find better than this typical smooth creamy taste, a little bit better than Guiness, although I like Guiness draught too. And genius are their cans like draught for home (God bless this genius founder).
Last week I got a O´Hara Stout bottle , but I was not satisfied there was a dominating coffe taste, so far my recensions.

And one little thing off-topic,
I am living in Germany, and we cannot get Beamish anywhere here. I am lookin´ for someone who would send me a package with post. On the other side I would send German beer cans (Krombacher Pils, Veltins Pils, Warsteiner for example) .
If there anybody is in mood to try it , please contact me on pm.

Franticfrank

Sounds like an idea. Considering a bottle/can of Veltins or Krombacher costs about 70c in Germany and a can of Beamish is what? €2.20 or something, you'd need to send over quite a bit in return I can understand you're missing the stuff from home though, its hard to get good stout in Germany.

Frozen_Rainbow

Dear Franticfrank, dear all forget my post.
Sorry I did not know this detail. I thought that in supermarkets we here (and you there) have supermarkets prices like here in Germany where a Krombacher can cost 0,79 Euro and 20 premium beer bottles not more than 15,00 Euros. These are normal prices here in Germany. But 2,20 Euros for a normal can in a normal shop is in my eyes a catastrophy :eek: (or everybody in Ireland earns 10.000 euros per month ) Thanx for information, at least we can buy here Murphys and Guiness cans :pac:

Herb Powell

I would do it for a slab of that sweet sweet Augustiner Helles.............

minidazzler

From the stouts I'd drinks regularily (or enough to form an opinion) my league of which is best goes like this.

Leann Follain
Mi Daza (Benny McCabe brewed stout based on old Beamish recipe, only available in his bars)
O' Hara's Stout
Beamish
Murphys
Guinness

I don't drink other ones regularily enough to form a full opinion, but I did also really enjoy the Double Chocolate Stout.

Guinness I can barely stomach anymore, I feel like there is something wrong with every pint I get of it. Even though there isn't, it's just not what I thought it was when I started stouts.

Being from Cork Beamish is my go to drink. Given it's available in most bars.

Ziphius

minidazzler wrote: »

Being from Cork .

Have you ever tried Shandon Stout brewed by the Cork brewery Franciscan Well? I like their other beers but have never seen the stout on sale in Dublin.

irish_goat

Ziphius wrote: »

Have you ever tried Shandon Stout brewed by the Cork brewery Franciscan Well? I like their other beers but have never seen the stout on sale in Dublin.

The Cobblestone down in Smithfield have it on draught, tastes lovely.

BeardySi

O'Hara's actually has a flavour, Guinness at best is bland and uninteresting....

Herb Powell

minidazzler wrote: »

From the stouts I'd drinks regularily (or enough to form an opinion) my league of which is best goes like this.

Leann Follain
Mi Daza (Benny McCabe brewed stout based on old Beamish recipe, only available in his bars)
O' Hara's Stout
Beamish
Murphys
Guinness

I don't drink other ones regularily enough to form a full opinion, but I did also really enjoy the Double Chocolate Stout.

Guinness I can barely stomach anymore, I feel like there is something wrong with every pint I get of it. Even though there isn't, it's just not what I thought it was when I started stouts.

Being from Cork Beamish is my go to drink. Given it's available in most bars.

Is this in Cork? I'd love to try it

johnnyskeleton

With the amount of people posting how oharas has flavour and Guinness has no flavour, one wonders who exactly they are trying to convince? It's like a testament to be repeated in order to get into the craft beer appreciation society.

For the record I have had more good pints of Guinness than good pints of oharas stout. Equally I've had some bad pints of Guinness. I'm amused that people claim oharas to have "more" flavour, rather than a "better" flavour.

minidazzler

Ziphius wrote: »

Have you ever tried Shandon Stout brewed by the Cork brewery Franciscan Well? I like their other beers but have never seen the stout on sale in Dublin.

I have had it, but I could not form a fair opinion of it at the time as I was after half a 22 inch pizza at the time. And was feeling quite terrible.

Herb Powell wrote: »

Is this in Cork? I'd love to try it

You will find it in Cork only I think, the bars I know for sure it's in are the Crane Lane, Vicarstown Inn and The Bodega. But it's very likely to be in The Mutton Lane, The Oval and Sin É. All of which are owned by Mr McCabe.

BeardySi

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

With the amount of people posting how oharas has flavour and Guinness has no flavour, one wonders who exactly they are trying to convince? It's like a testament to be repeated in order to get into the craft beer appreciation society.

Convince? nobody at all....

If find guinness flavourless and uninteresting, I enjoy the coffee flavours of O'Haras... ergo I find that one has more flavour than the other....

Quite frankly I couldn't give a thundering crap what you or anybody else thinks, opinions were asked for, opinion was given.

irish_goat

I'm amused that people claim oharas to have "more" flavour, rather than a "better" flavour.

It is what it is. I've never had a customer tell me that O'Hara's stout is bland, usually customers who don't like it describe it as "too strong", "too full on" or "not what I'm used to". "Better flavour" is subjective and I'm not going to tell someone that O'Hara's is better than Guinness but there's no denying that it has more flavour.

johnnyskeleton

irish_goat wrote: »

I'm amused that people claim oharas to have "more" flavour, rather than a "better" flavour.

It is what it is. I've never had a customer tell me that O'Hara's stout is bland, usually customers who don't like it describe it as "too strong", "too full on" or "not what I'm used to". "Better flavour" is subjective and I'm not going to tell someone that O'Hara's is better than Guinness but there's no denying that it has more flavour.

So would you, for example, say that laphroaig has more flavour than balvenie because laphroaig has more a pronounced and singular flavour compared to the more subtle and complex flavours of the balvenie? Or that some imperial ipas have more flavour than other beers because bitter hops tend to overpower the tastebuds?

BaZmO*

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So would you, for example, say that laphroaig has more flavour than balvenie because laphroaig has more a pronounced and singular flavour compared to the more subtle and complex flavours of the balvenie? Or that some imperial ipas have more flavour than other beers because bitter hops tend to overpower the tastebuds?

We're not really discussing Whiskys though.

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Or that some imperial ipas have more flavour than other beers because bitter hops tend to overpower the tastebuds?

Is bitterness a flavour?

Seaneh

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So would you, for example, say that laphroaig has more flavour than balvenie because laphroaig has more a pronounced and singular flavour compared to the more subtle and complex flavours of the balvenie? Or that some imperial ipas have more flavour than other beers because bitter hops tend to overpower the tastebuds?

Terrible examples.

Guinness doesn't have more subtle and complex falvours.

it has a lot less of very similar flavours.

Son0vagun

Had my first bottle of Leann Follain last night, very impressed with its flavours. But I drank it from the fridge. Can't help thinking it would have been even nicer at room temperature.

What temperature do you guys drink your bottled stout?

Frozen_Rainbow

lookin´for the perfect Stout, but I was not succesfull, although it was funny to taste it

Son0vagun

Frozen_Rainbow wrote: »

lookin´for the perfect Stout, but I was not succesfull, although it was funny to taste it

What's the milk stout like?

BaZmO*

Son0vagun wrote: »

What's the milk stout like?

The Milk Stout is amazing. Had it recently and loved it.

Son0vagun

BaZmO* wrote: »

The Milk Stout is amazing. Had it recently and loved it.

I want some. Where will I get it? Do The Drink Store have it in store?

BaZmO*

Son0vagun wrote: »

I want some. Where will I get it? Do The Drink Store have it in store?

That's where I got it.

Frozen_Rainbow

Milk Stout,it is a US Stout from the Left Hand Brewing . Hmm I am not good in explaining / describing beers, but to put in easy words it is a sweet Stout, very good quality, from a scala from 1 – 10 I would say a weak 7 .

description from the brewery:
ABV: 6,00
Malts: Pale 2-row, Crystal, Munich, Roast Barley, Flaked Oats, Flaked Barley and Chocolate
Hops: Magnum and US Goldings

all my Stout samples I ordered at the internet shop www.bierzwerg.de the prices are ok and I think they deliver out of Germany and as I see there are some more Stout sorts. :pac:

oblivious

Frozen_Rainbow wrote: »

Milk Stout,it is a US Stout from the Left Hand Brewing . Hmm I am not good in explaining / describing beers, but to put in easy words it is a sweet Stout, very good quality, from a scala from 1 – 10 I would say a weak 7 .

Mackeson Stout is one of the original milks stout very nice. Its the addition of lactose that give it the Milk component as it was original believed to be beneficial.

Any way if your ever up north you can pick it up in stubby cans in most big supermarkets

BaZmO*

Frozen_Rainbow wrote: »

all my Stout samples I ordered at the internet shop www.bierzwerg.de the prices are ok and I think they deliver out of Germany and as I see there are some more Stout sorts. :pac:

2,19 EUR for the Milk Stout on that site compared to €3.50 on Drink Store. If they delivered to Ireland at a decent price. A large order on certain beers could be worth a go.

BeerNut

BaZmO* wrote: »

2,19 EUR for the Milk Stout on that site compared to €3.50 on Drink Store. If they delivered to Ireland at a decent price. A large order on certain beers could be worth a go.

But they'd still have to charge Irish duty and VAT which could well end up eroding any savings.

Seaneh

Son0vagun wrote: »

Had my first bottle of Leann Follain last night, very impressed with its flavours. But I drank it from the fridge. Can't help thinking it would have been even nicer at room temperature.

What temperature do you guys drink your bottled stout?

I like to take it from a shelf and put it in the fridge for about half an hour. Seems a good temp for me.

BaZmO*

BeerNut wrote: »

But they'd still have to charge Irish duty and VAT which could well end up eroding any savings.

Really? I've gotten beer before from Germany (I think it was a site called Beer Angel or something?) and the beer was still ridiculously cheaper. It was a few years ago though.

I'd still prefer to support Irish suppliers, but........ if the difference was that great I'd be tempted.

edit:- I've actually looked back over emails. It was beerangel, and they did charge the 19% tax at the time, which does seem to be included on that Bierzwerg site. Delivery at the time was €29.50 for a 27.45kg package but it still worked out much cheaper.

I've sent them an email anyway.

BeerNut

BaZmO* wrote: »

they did charge the 19% tax at the time, which does seem to be included on that Bierzwerg site.

Yeah, that's actually illegal. They're charging German VAT for goods shipped to Ireland.