Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

Coillte_Bhoy

Mr_Spaceman wrote: »

'Embarrassing' and 'cringeworthy' indeed.

Yet the usual suspects can't help coming onto a Rangers board to be offended.

As usual.

Who's offended?? It's laughable more than offensive to us though i think it's offensive to the memory of the men the day is y
supposed to be about. Having a circus on the pitch, dignity indeed:rolleyes:

lubo_moravcik

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Who's offended?? It's laughable more than offensive to us though i think it's offensive to the memory of the men the day is y
supposed to be about. Having a circus on the pitch, dignity indeed:rolleyes:

This x100

A question, the money raised at Ibrox last year, is it true this wasn't handed over to the poppy fund appeal, or is that just more internet bampotery???

Broxi_Bear_Eire

lubo_moravcik wrote: »

This x100

A question, the money raised at Ibrox last year, is it true this wasn't handed over to the poppy fund appeal, or is that just more internet bampotery???

A lot of nonsense

blahfckingblah

im glad i managed to avoid this crap, I don't like it i dont agree with it but if its what they want to do then thats ok, after all its not my club

BhoscaCapall

blahfckingblah wrote: »

im glad i managed to avoid this crap, I don't like it i dont agree with it but if its what they want to do then thats ok, after all its not my club

Another poster trying too hard to look diplomatic.

It might not be your club but it might be your society. That goes on during a televised public football match is there to be scrutinised by those outside that club, particularly in the case of Rangers where we have a national media too cowardly/friendly to question anything that goes on there - something which has caused more harm to Rangers and their fans than anybody else.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Another poster trying too hard to look diplomatic.

It might not be your club but it might be your society. That goes on during a televised public football match is there to be scrutinised by those outside that club, particularly in the case of Rangers where we have a national media too cowardly/friendly to question anything that goes on there - something which has caused more harm to Rangers and their fans than anybody else.

Where have you been hiding for the last year or so at least the media have hammered us from every angle. The BBC newspapers channel4 so I t hunk you ate we'll off the mark there. Asfor what went on at Ibrox on Saturday the club invited these servicemen and women to take part which they accepted I would take it with the agreement of the various commanding officers the card display was arranged by a fans group. Now my feelings on the red poppy and its background are not in line with a lot of people but I will defend there right to wear it or show their respect in their way
Really I don't see any bears going on to the tic thread and saying how disgraceful or anything untoward about the GB waiting on the concourse on Saturday
Notice the difference

blahfckingblah

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Another poster trying too hard to look diplomatic.

very doubtful. I can't be bothered explaining my opinions on this in detail now so I'l leave it there

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Where have you been hiding for the last year or so at least the media have hammered us from every angle. The BBC newspapers channel4 so I t hunk you ate we'll off the mark there.

Oh come off it, don't sit there and have the cheek to deny the succulent lamb brigade. You can sweep everything else under the rug, dismiss every other accusation as paranoia and conspiracy theory but you cannot deny the massive culture of toeing the Ibrox line in the Scottish media. The fact you've had to mention two media outlets outside of the Scottish circus says it all. The fact Rangers fans were reduced to a snarling violent rage when C4 and the BBC had the sheer cheek to report honestly on the scandals at Ibrox says it all.

This should be one thing Rangers fans can actually side with everybody else on. The Scottish media led you astray for years.

Really I don't see any bears going on to the tic thread and saying how disgraceful or anything untoward about the GB waiting on the concourse on Saturday
Notice the difference

By all means, if you would like to criticise some people for quietly choosing not to take part in a commemoration for people they do not want to commemorate then go ahead, you will only make yourself look extremely silly. That is proper barrel scraping right there. "They didn't ruin the minute's silence, so let's criticise them for not ruining the minute's silence". On you go Mr Leckie :rolleyes:

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Oh come off it, don't sit there and have the cheek to deny the succulent lamb brigade. You can sweep everything else under the rug, dismiss every other accusation as paranoia and conspiracy theory but you cannot deny the massive culture of toeing the Ibrox line in the Scottish media. The fact you've had to mention two media outlets outside of the Scottish circus says it all. The fact Rangers fans were reduced to a snarling violent rage when C4 and the BBC had the sheer cheek to report honestly on the scandals at Ibrox says it all.

This should be one thing Rangers fans can actually side with everybody else on. The Scottish media led you astray for years.


By all means, if you would like to criticise some people for quietly choosing not to take part in a commemoration for people they do not want to commemorate then go ahead, you will only make yourself look extremely silly. That is proper barrel scraping right there. "They didn't ruin the minute's silence, so let's criticise them for not ruining the minute's silence". On you go Mr Leckie :rolleyes:

Right we will start with the media it was BBC Scotland who were at it various Scottish newspapers also have slammed what went on
I am not condemning them for what they did I actually believe they did the right thing but I am pointing out the fact no one is commenting on it
Really you need to take your blinkers off mate I thought when you started posting we may get some good discussions about what the clubs are there for ie football looks as though I was wrong
I find it funny you get all offended by a Scottish / British club doing something on remember wince weekend it is there right whether joy line it or not

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

I thought when you started posting we may get some good discussions about what the clubs are there for ie football looks as though I was wrong

lol touched a nerve obviously, sorry but as long as your club continues with debatable practises off the park they will be questioned. It's not as if ridicule for your match performances aren't forthcoming either.

I find it funny you get all offended by a Scottish / British club doing something on remember wince weekend it is there right whether joy line it or not

There you go again deciding that other people are offended. Straw man nonsense I'm afraid. There is a notable difference between finding something pathetic or embarrassing and being offended by it.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

lol touched a nerve obviously, sorry but as long as your club continues with debatable practises off the park they will be questioned. It's not as if ridicule for your match performances aren't forthcoming either.


There you go again deciding that other people are offended. Straw man nonsense I'm afraid. There is a notable difference between finding something pathetic or embarrassing and being offended by it.

Only people like you can find something to complain about in a Scottish/British team remembering the war dead at there own stadium on rememberence weekend as much as I may have my own issues with the poppy I will defend there right to do so.

Ah the old straw man thing nonsense it's pretty obvious from your posts here and in other threads you are offended and if it does embarrass you then ignore it pretty much what I do with things regarding Celtic.
Carry on if you wish to comment on team performances at least it will be better than this drivel

BhoscaCapall

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Only people like you can find something to complain about in a Scottish/British team remembering the war dead at there own stadium on rememberence weekend as much as I may have my own issues with the poppy I will defend there right to do so

I haven't complained about it or said they shouldn't be able to do it. I have laughed at it and found it pathetic. I understand that it would probably be easier for you to deal with my opinion if I was actually offended or complaining, but unfortunately that isn't the case, sorry.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

I haven't complained about it or said they shouldn't be able to do it. I have laughed at it and found it pathetic. I understand that it would probably be easier for you to deal with my opinion if I was actually offended or complaining, but unfortunately that isn't the case, sorry.

For someone not offended I reckon this the third thread or is it only the second you had to mention it. See this is the reason right at the start when it was mentioned I said it was pointless as we are never going to agree on this no matter the reasons and to be honest I couldn't give a monkeys if you are offended or not its immaterial And it certainly won't change anything in my life

Coillte_Bhoy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Really I don't see any bears going on to the tic thread and saying how disgraceful or anything untoward about the GB waiting on the concourse on Saturday
Notice the difference

What? How is that disgraceful? Do they not have any freedom of choice now? So they should have been forced to go in and respect the silence? Sums up the nasty farce the whole thing has become. And of course your club and fans have that freedom as well, doesnt mean we cant laugh at how pathetic it is, glorifying an army involved in overseas wars of occupation on a day thats supposed to be about rememberance

Coillte_Bhoy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

For someone not offended I reckon this the third thread or is it only the second you had to mention it. See this is the reason right at the start when it was mentioned I said it was pointless as we are never going to agree on this no matter the reasons and to be honest I couldn't give a monkeys if you are offended or not its immaterial And it certainly won't change anything in my life

you keep telling him he's offended so of course he's going to rebut that,

Dempsey

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What? How is that disgraceful? Do they not have any freedom of choice now? So they should have been forced to go in and respect the silence? Sums up the nasty farce the whole thing has become. And of course your club and fans have that freedom as well, doesnt mean we cant laugh at how pathetic it is, glorifying an army involved in overseas wars of occupation on a day thats supposed to be about rememberance

in fairness, glorification of the british army through the day of rememberance isnt a rangers thing. there is a huge level of facism after creeping in which is been driven by the media.

just look at the article in the mail or telegraph highlight mclean not wearing it and o shea changing his shirt at ht which had no poppy. that, all the ****e over twitter comments means freedom of speech is something nearly lost on the british these days.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Dempsey wrote: »

in fairness, glorification of the british army through the day of rememberance. there is a huge level of facism after creeping in which is been driven by the media.

just look at the article in the mail or telegraph highlight mclean not wearing it and o shea changing his shirt at ht which had no poppy. freedom of speech is something lost on the british these days.

And that was wrong but it was the Mail of course it should be about choice if someone doesn't want to wear one that should be that also of people do then so should they

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

What? How is that disgraceful? Do they not have any freedom of choice now? So they should have been forced to go in and respect the silence? Sums up the nasty farce the whole thing has become. And of course your club and fans have that freedom as well, doesnt mean we cant laugh at how pathetic it is, glorifying an army involved in overseas wars of occupation on a day thats supposed to be about rememberance

If you had bothered to read on in a later post youwouldhave seen I said I agreed with what they did

Dempsey

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

And that was wrong but it was the Mail of course it should be about choice if someone doesn't want to wear one that should be that also of people do then so should they

yea but is it a day of rememberance for the people that died in war or it is celebrating the british military? its gone from one thing and slowly into the other i think. time the charity makes up its mind because plenty arent easy with what its turning into

Coillte_Bhoy

Dempsey wrote: »

in fairness, glorification of the british army through the day of rememberance isnt a rangers thing. there is a huge level of facism after creeping in which is been driven by the media.

just look at the article in the mail or telegraph highlight mclean not wearing it and o shea changing his shirt at ht which had no poppy. that, all the ****e over twitter comments means freedom of speech is something nearly lost on the british these days.

Oh yes of course but t hey do tend to overdo things to put it mildly

Coillte_Bhoy

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

If you had bothered to read on in a later post youwouldhave seen I said I agreed with what they did

Fair enough, i must have missed it, no need to be so tetchy

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Fair enough, i must have missed it, no need to be so tetchy

Dear me so you have a go at me I point out that if you had read on you would have seen your mistake yet I am the one that is tetchy

Only on boards

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Dempsey wrote: »

yea but is it a day of rememberance for the people that died in war or it is celebrating the british military? its gone from one thing and slowly into the other i think. time the charity makes up its mind because plenty arent easy with what its turning into

The charity still stands for what it did all along the blame lies squarely with government and media

Dempsey

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

The charity still stands for what it did all along the blame lies squarely with government and media

Does the showing off a military weapon at a football ground fall under the ethos of the charity or playing up to the media/government perception/hype?

Eirebear

British Club shows respect to British soldiers on Armistace Day.
Irish people get offended.

Really, that's it in a nutshell folks.

I don't wear a poppy, i don't take part in any pomp and ceremony regarding armistace day. But it sure as **** isnt the big deal some of you lot are making out to be.

"Oh but there was a gun on the pitch!"
Shock ****ing horror lads, the army, by definition use guns.
get over it.

In the past i've seen small town fete's proudly shoing of tanks and other such creations.
I might not be entirely comfortable with it, but who am i to tell these people that their interest in it is wrong?

BhoscaCapall

Bit like having a toast for George Best though, isn't it?

Eirebear

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Bit like having a toast for George Best though, isn't it?

I'm not quite getting your comparison here.

BhoscaCapall

Lighting a bonfire for Simon Weston?

Eirebear

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

Lighting a bonfire for Simon Weston?

Nope, still not getting it.

Rangers holding a celebration of armed forces, is to Best's alcoholism and Weston's burns....how?

Dempsey

Eirebear wrote: »

British Club shows respect to British soldiers on Armistace Day.
Irish people get offended.

Really, that's it in a nutshell folks.

I don't wear a poppy, i don't take part in any pomp and ceremony regarding armistace day. But it sure as **** isnt the big deal some of you lot are making out to be.

"Oh but there was a gun on the pitch!"
Shock ****ing horror lads, the army, by definition use guns.
get over it.

In the past i've seen small town fete's proudly shoing of tanks and other such creations.
I might not be entirely comfortable with it, but who am i to tell these people that their interest in it is wrong?

strawman argument. Armistace day is not the same thing nor im i offended by a british football club having military weapons on show any day of the year for whatever reason, despite the british killing people in croke park. thinly veiled dig at the irish maybe? never, im just paranoid that ye do such a thing!

glorify the british military but dont insult people by trying to say that ye are commemorating the dead though