Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

bobmalooka

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

Deserved a yellow imo, not a red. The only player that deserved a red was Ciftci

TheCitizen

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1no4f8VoLM

VVD didn't connect with his opponents head with his boot. No I don't think he (Van Dijk) should've been sent off.

RoryMac

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

I thought it was borderline red, he tried to stamp on the DU player but didn't seem to make much contact. Due to it being so early in the game I think a yellow for him & the DU player with Cifti getting a red would have made sense

bobbysands81

bobmalooka wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks VVD deserved red?

I understand why he got it. He hasn't a hope of winning the appeal.

bobmalooka

TheCitizen wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1no4f8VoLM

VVD didn't connect with his opponents head with his boot. No I don't think he (Van Dijk) should've been sent off.

Why not? He kicked out at an opponent, what the ref missed doesn't change that.

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

Deserved a yellow imo, not a red. The only player that deserved a red was Ciftci

Thd players know that kicking out is a red even if in reality it only deserves a yellow. Ideally the ref should have the option to only give 2 yellows instead of reds for the tangle but he doesn't.

Browns tackle was beyond wild and should have been a red, Cifti should have got red and a long holiday - kicks to the head should get a huge ban in my opinion.

Intifada

Can you point out where VVD kicks Butcher. Not saying he doesn't, but I've watched it loads and can only see Butcher kneeing him in the bollocks.

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

Thd players know that kicking out is a red even if in reality it only deserves a yellow. Ideally the ref should have the option to only give 2 yellows instead of reds for the tangle but he doesn't.

Browns tackle was beyond wild and should have been a red, Cifti should have got red and a long holiday - kicks to the head should get a huge ban in my opinion.

The referee does have the option, I'd like to know what the linesman told him and how accurate it was. Remember that between the two of them they managed to send off the wrong player.

There was nothing wrong with Brown's tackle. He won the ball, it's still a contact sport the last time I checked!

Intifada

DUFC are appealing Cifti's ban. Some brass neck but after getting his last one overturned, which was even more blatant, can hardly blame them.

bobmalooka

Intifada wrote: »

Can you point out where VVD kicks Butcher. Not saying he doesn't, but I've watched it loads and can only see Butcher kneeing him in the bollocks.

At 38 seconds on the YouTube link thecitizen posted above VBD stamps out (just before he gets kneed)

It's stupid and soft but it's a red card offence

bobmalooka

Dempsey wrote: »

The referee does have the option, I'd like to know what the linesman told him and how accurate it was. Remember that between the two of them they managed to send off the wrong player.

There was nothing wrong with Brown's tackle. He won the ball, it's still a contact sport the last time I checked!

He had no option when payers kick each other - they identified the wrong DU player which is a farce,but when the linesman says he has seen them kick each other (I presume as that's whst happened on the floor) then the red has no choice.

Brown won the ball by leading two footed with studs up at pace - it's a wreckless type of challenge. He was lucky to not get pulled on it.

Intifada

bobmalooka wrote: »

At 38 seconds on the YouTube link thecitizen posted above VBD stamps out (just before he gets kneed)

It's stupid and soft but it's a red card offence

I see it now. Does look like a stamp, but it should be very easy to appeal against since his foot is so close to the ground anyway and there is no contact. Hopefully the fact Butcher has got away with doing much worse will mean they go easy on him. Unless they remember who he plays for...

Brown didn't go in with studs up btw. You can see here he has one foot on the turf, and his left boot has swung up after the tackle. He went in hard and could have got a booking, but the red card argument is only being given the light of day because of everything else.

Intifada

Think Stokes makes some valid points here re. the whole diving debate: http://sport.stv.tv/football/video/4105012779001/

Although I have seen him dive before!

Dempsey

bobmalooka wrote: »

He had no option when payers kick each other - they identified the wrong DU player which is a farce,but when the linesman says he has seen them kick each other (I presume as that's whst happened on the floor) then the red has no choice.

Brown won the ball by leading two footed with studs up at pace - it's a wreckless type of challenge. He was lucky to not get pulled on it.

You're making the assumption that the officials saw everything we saw from several replays. They certainly didn't.

TheBuilder

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Intifada

TheBuilder wrote: »

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Nope. Conclusive proof that there has never been decades of institutionalised bias against Celtic right there.

You're just paranoid timmy!

TheBuilder

Intifada wrote: »

Nope. Conclusive proof that there has never been decades of institutionalised bias against Celtic right there.

You're just paranoid timmy!

Institutionalised bias, aye okay mate.

In saying that, the SFA are clearly drunk this week, how can they possibly clear Ciftci?

Dempsey

TheBuilder wrote: »

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Them are the breaks when you have someone on the professional game board...

You can see it because your club has been doing it for decades.

Am I playing this game right?

Dempsey

In other news Stokes & Griffiths have agreed a retainer agreement with Ciftci to represent them in their legal affairs.

That chap must have awful dirt on someone in the SFA, thats the 2nd serious violent conduct charge that was washed away

bobmalooka

More a case of wanting the whole mess to go away me thinks

bobbysands81

TheBuilder wrote: »

Van Dijk red card rescinded.

The world still against you lot?

Conclusive proof that Peter Lawell directs the SFA and SPFL on what to do.

ColeTrain

I'm not sure what Scott Brown was playing at, there's pictures of him hammered on the front page of The Sun. You expect better from the captain days before a big game.

Intifada

ColeTrain wrote: »

I'm not sure what Scott Brown was playing at, there's pictures of him hammered on the front page of The Sun. You expect better from the captain days before a big game.

Aha the traditional slur story in the week of a big game for Celtic :pac:

Brown will most likely run the the game on Sunday.

ColeTrain

Intifada wrote: »

Aha the traditional slur story in the week of a big game for Celtic :pac:

Brown will most likely run the the game on Sunday.

It wouldn't have been printed if Brown hadn't decided to go on the tear days before a cup final.

He won't run the game if he's dropped and there's a strong chance he will be imo. Ronny is always preaching fitness and 'players being 24 hour athletes'.

Intifada

"Lets all do the Broony" should take a fun new twist

RoryMac

Surprised to see those pics of Brown, since he became captain I don't think he has put a foot wrong. I'm sure Delia will have a word and issue a fine but unless it becomes a regular thing I wouldn't be too worried

eire4

Not looking good at this point for Biton to be fit enough for tomorrow which will be a big blow for us considering how big a player he has become for us this season so far. I imagine Johansen will drop back alongside Brown if Biton doesn't make it with Commons taking up Johansens regular spot.

PauloMN

1-0 to the Hoops at HT courtesy of Commons who connected with a saved ball deflected off the post.

Playing quite well but need to turn the screw 2nd half.

PauloMN

Dillon off rightly for a studs up challenge on Izzy.