Two adult brothers in a relationship

holystungun9

Imagine bringing him home to meet the parents!

Biggins

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Do you think it's wrong?

If so why?

I can't think of a legitimate reason why it shouldn't be allowed. So long as they aren't harming anyone good luck to them. Now the thought of it somewhat turns my stomach, but that is hardly justification to forbid two brothers from being together.

WTF?

Carlos_Ray

Sometimes you just know something is wrong. You don't need to articulate reasons why because its so inherently disturbing and depraved that it goes without saying.

Why did you pick two brothers as an example? Why not a father and son? Mother and daughter? If you require more than your gut feeling to tell you that any of these are seriously wrong then I suggest you seek help.

PizzamanIRL

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Do you think it's wrong?

If so why?

I can't think of a legitimate reason why it shouldn't be allowed. So long as they aren't harming anyone good luck to them. Now the thought of it somewhat turns my stomach, but that is hardly justification to forbid two brothers from being together.

What does Scanlas The 1st think about it?

some random drunk

The Op is missing a news article....so here's one:

Gay porn’s most shocking taboo

Based on their YouTube channel, Elijah and Milo Peters just seem like your average, slightly awkward Czech teenage twins. They enjoy role-playing games and steak. They like frolicking around on the beach in their elaborately patterned underwear and taunting each other while bodybuilding. (“Hey you lazy-ee boy! Put some weight on eet!”) But the Peters twins aren’t quite as innocent as their goofy grins and adorable accents suggest.


Over the past few months, they have become two of the most controversial performers to hit the gay porn world in a very long time. That’s because they’re willing to break a taboo that, even in an industry that thrives on extremes, is too extreme for many: twin incest (or, more succinctly, twincest). While the concept of twin performers is not new to the gay porn world, the Peters twins are notable both because of the extent of their popularity and the things they are willing to do with each other on camera. They French kiss; they perform oral sex on each other; they have anal sex; and most shockingly of all, they do it in a tender and romantic way.


“My brother is my boyfriend, and I am his boyfriend,” says one of the twins during a phone call from Prague (Elijah and Milo sound so much alike on the phone it is impossible to tell which one is speaking). “He is my lifeblood, and he is my only love.”

For some reason the idea of them having a romantic relationship together seems more creepy to me than the actual making porn together.

Dyr

Lyaiera wrote: »

Yes, "consenting adults." Incest by it's nature brings question to the idea that two siblings can properly consent.

what in it's nature brings into question that both parties are of sound mind?

1ZRed

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

What does Scanlas The 1st think about it?

He's too busy getting it from Scanlas the 2nd to even think about anything else

Blondini

************ Clean Joke Alert ***************

I believe their favourite album of all time was
Brothers in (each other's) arms

Medusa22

If they are both consenting adults with no history of abuse/neglect/mental disorders then I don't see why it should be illegal. Personally it makes me feel disgusted and uneasy but that isn't a reason for incest to be illegal. Apparently people who grow up together usually have a sort of sexual imprinting that prevents them from finding each other attractive though. If the relatives grew up together I would wonder if there was some sort of abuse involved. Relatives that have been reunited in later life often seem to form strangely intense sexual relationships (genetic sexual attraction), such as a brother and a sister. I really don't have a problem with this because these people never met and it seems to be a overwhelming feeling for them, I don't think a sexual relationship should be illegal especially in this sense.

cursai

syndeyfife wrote: »

I can't even watch porn with female twins in it, just creeps me out big time.

Now. THAT'S wrong. That you find something wrong with that.

cursai

Would their babies not have genetic defects.

Scanlas The 2nd

Carlos_Ray wrote: »

Sometimes you just know something is wrong. You don't need to articulate reasons why because its so inherently disturbing and depraved that it goes without saying.

Why did you pick two brothers as an example? Why not a father and son? Mother and daughter? If you require more than your gut feeling to tell you that any of these are seriously wrong then I suggest you seek help.

It dangerous territory to go by your gut feeling alone, many people's gut feeling tells them homosexuality is very wrong, do that can't be enough of a reason. There has to be reasoning behind it to avoid bigotry and discrimination.

Blondini

I'd say it could cause a bit of friction in the family .........

1ZRed

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

It dangerous territory to go by your gut feeling alone, many people's gut feeling tells them homosexuality is very wrong, do that can't be enough of a reason. There has to be reasoning behind it to avoid bigotry and discrimination.

Why do you keep linking up homosexuality and incest?

Anyway, this is a stupid thread and you've already had your argument in another one. I actually hate getting into these sort of long pointless gay threads because I couldn't give a shit about my sexuality and I'm not one for debating it, so I made my point, I'm out.

Lyaiera

Bambi wrote: »

what in it's nature brings into question that both parties are of sound mind?

As I've already said the idea that they're siblings means there's questions over abuse, trauma and unhealthy relationships within the family.

And as someone else pointed out there's a huge amount of siblings who were separated at birth or childhood ending up together after finding each other in adulthood but before finding out they're related. Most evidence for this is where there has been difficulty conceiving or when a child has been born with genetic disease due to both parents (naturally) carrying dormant genes for the genetic disease. This points to some idea of attraction between people with the same parent existing on a genetic, subconcious level.

In the people separated at birth case I have no problems with them forming relationships (as abuse is unlikely.) I would like if they were both DNA tested before conceiving because the likelihood of having a child with a disease is higher. However, that's not because of the way inbreeding causes deformities, that actually happens a lot further down the line of intra-family breeding and is more likely to occur with cousins than siblings (there's been studies on this but I've lost my database access now I've finished Uni.) All this however is quite improbable in a modern society unless a specific strategy of eugenic type breeding has been followed. The reason for DNA testing is just because there's a higher chance that both parents carry dormant genes and there's quite a lot of diseases that occur if a man and woman unaffected by the disease but carrying the gene conceive.

Scanlas The 2nd

1ZRed wrote: »

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

It dangerous territory to go by your gut feeling alone, many people's gut feeling tells them homosexuality is very wrong, do that can't be enough of a reason. There has to be reasoning behind it to avoid bigotry and discrimination.

Why do you keep linking up homosexuality and incest?

It's a convenient example whereby " gut feelings" have caused people to be persecuted and ostracised.

Interracial marriage would be another example. I'm sure there are many who "just feel" it is wrong.

Lyaiera

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

It's a convenient example whereby " gut feelings" have caused people to be persecuted and ostracised.

Interracial marriage would be another example. I'm sure there are many who "just feel" it is wrong.

It's also a common tactic fundamentalist religious nutjobs in America use against equal rights for homosexual people.

darced

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Are some people purposely reading the opposite of what Scanlas is saying? He's said he doesn't oppose homosexuality, nor oppose his specific example of incest. How is that an argument against homosexuality?

Some people in this thread will look for any reason to get offended.

And to answer Scanlas' question:

If both individuals are of sound mind, if neither one groomed the other during childhood (which is a valid argument against parent-child incest), and neither were themselves subjected to sexual abuse during childhood, then I can see no basis for objection. I might find it absolutely disgusting, but my own, personal feelings on something are not a valid basis for objecting it.

Abi

darced wrote: »

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You then have to question why incest is wrong in the first place. We know it can cause genetic defects in opposite gender couples if they have children. Even if a same sex incestuous couple cannot procreate, the fact that it is incest it is automatically ear marked as wrong.

Homophobic people probably have the same view on homosexuals, ie they can but they shouldn't.

Go for it Scanlas! We judge you not.

fasttalkerchat

gvn wrote: »

Are some people purposely reading the opposite of what Scanlas is saying? He's said he doesn't oppose homosexuality, nor oppose his specific example of incest. How is that an argument against homosexuality?

Some people in this thread will look for any reason to get offended.

And to answer Scanlas' question:

If both individuals are of sound mind, if neither one groomed the other during childhood (which is a valid argument against parent-child incest), and neither were themselves subjected to sexual abuse during childhood, then I can see no basis for objection. I might find it absolutely disgusting, but my own, personal feelings on something are not a valid basis for objecting it.

Well done for saying that. Its not a popular opinion so I'll be the first (and perhaps only) to back you up on it



Btw, I am also disgusted by it.

stepbar

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Do you think it's wrong?

If so why?

I can't think of a legitimate reason why it shouldn't be allowed. So long as they aren't harming anyone good luck to them. Now the thought of it somewhat turns my stomach, but that is hardly justification to forbid two brothers from being together.

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I'm have nothing against homosexuality, if you want to enlighten me why two brothers in a relationship is wrong work away?

What a bizarre question to put up on a public forum.

Vicar in a tutu

Actually nearly offed myself laughing thinking about if my brothers got into a relationship with eachother :pac:

Whatever makes you happy I suppose

Cassidy28

Some very strange people around.

Vicar in a tutu

How would they even decide they were in love?! Least they wouldnt have to put up with inlaws I suppose??

Dyr

Lyaiera wrote: »

As I've already said the idea that they're XYZ means there's questions over abuse, trauma and unhealthy relationships within the family.

People used to make that argument about any non heterosexual relationship right up into the 90's.

Dyr

Lyaiera wrote: »

I would like if they were both DNA tested before conceiving because the likelihood of having a child with a disease is higher. .

The likelihood of two brothers having a kid together is gonna fall at the first fence so never mind your DNA testing

marshbaboon

Personally I don't see anything wrong with it...

... neither does my brother.

coffee_cake

Lyaiera wrote: »

If they were long lost brothers who found each other in their twenties and got in a relationship I wouldn't have a problem with it. If they were brothers who grew up together then I would. There's far too much of a likelihood that their relationship is predicated on some form of abuse or emotional neglect.

This totally sums it up for me

RDM_83 again

This is one of those thing where I can't logically give a reason against to legally forbid it, however I wouldn't 'accept' it e.g something like the 50 year old going out with a 17??? year old, legally ok, morally and socially dubious IMO.

Genuine question, does that effect (which I can;t remember the proper name for) that discourages incest have a similar effect on same sex relations