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Two adult brothers in a relationship

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    #32
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users Posts: 23,977 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    Legally, incest can only occur between a male and a female. Strange but true.


    This is arsecest we're talking about.


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    #33
    Knex*
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    syndeyfife wrote: »
    I can't even watch porn with female twins in it, just creeps me out big time.

    Lesbian porn is overrated anyways.

    There, I said it.


    /runs


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    #34
    jessiejam
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    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    I'm have nothing against homosexuality, if you want to enlighten me why two brothers in a relationship is wrong work away?

    Eh.. because they are brothers????????????????????????????
    Isn't that reason enough?

    Could you imagine what it would do to the parents?


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    #35
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    To see if anyone can justify why it's wrong. I can't.

    So if you end up with say two sons and at the age of 17 they are quite happily going at it like a pair of rabbits, you'd be ok with that?

    Would you be happy for them to conduct a romantic relationship around your house as most teenage relationships are?

    No I wouldn't be happy about it, but me being disgusted about it is hardly justification. There are plenty of parents disgusted by their homosexual children but that doesn't make it wrong to be homosexual.


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    #36
    ScumLord
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    BluesBerry wrote: »
    Its incest
    Incest is biologically repulsive because of the possibility of having children with genetic abnormalities. Two men can't produce children so it's only disgusting but not harmful.


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    #37
    Hilly Bill
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    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Do you think it's wrong?

    If so why?

    I can't think of a legitimate reason why it shouldn't be allowed. So long as they aren't harming anyone good luck to them. Now the thought of it somewhat turns my stomach, but that is hardly justification to forbid two brothers from being together.

    Its 100% out of order.


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    #38
    Cassidy28
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    I'm not sure about two brothers in a relationship, but two sisters yeah.


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    #39
    holystungun9
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    bros before hoes personified.


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    #40
    Owryan
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    are you the jealous 3rd brother ?


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    #41
    1ZRed
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    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Either engage in the discussion or find another thread to moan in.

    Do you think it's wrong?

    You had your argument over in that thread and you ignored what posters were pointing out to you and saying that there was NO need to bring incest into a debate about gay rights and homophobia because there's no connection between them.

    All you seemed to do was bring up gay brotherly incest any chance you could for no reason. I think you should be explaining why you were so obsessed about it.

    Edit, and incest is disgusting gay or straight


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    #42
    Halloween Jack
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    It hasn't done jedward any harm......


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    #43
    [Deleted User]
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    sure ive played with brother for a years aka we shared a room just a phase


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    #44
    TeddyTedson
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    Another Jedward thread ffs :rolleyes:. Isn't everyone sick of these two by now:confused:


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    #45
    TeddyTedson
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    Halloween Jack wrote: »
    It hasn't done jedward any harm......
    I think you just mind ****ed me:eek:


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    #46
    Dave0301
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    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    No I wouldn't be happy about it, but me being disgusted about it is hardly justification. There are plenty of parents disgusted by their homosexual children but that doesn't make it wrong to be homosexual.

    Parents disgusted by their children's homosexual relations are bigoted and living in the stone age.

    As for the part in bold, in this context it is correct but you can't apply that logic to all aspects and walks of life. Say for example "There are plenty of parents disgusted by their racist children but that doesn't make it wrong to be racist." Using the same logic that you applied to homosexuality doesn't apply to racism.

    Or another "There are plenty of parents disgusted by their rapist children but that doesn't make it wrong to be a rapist." Again there is a failure using this logic with regards to this context. The same can be said for incest.


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    #47
    kneemos
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    Weird question.I think it would get in the way of a normal brotherly relationship,it is socially unacceptable so they may not be accepted by thier peers and local community and it's just off really is'nt it?


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    #48
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Either engage in the discussion or find another thread to moan in.

    Do you think it's wrong?

    You had your argument over in that thread and you ignored what posters were pointing out to you and saying that there was NO need to bring incest into a debate about gay rights and homophobia because there's no connection between them.

    All you seemed to do was bring up gay brotherly incest any chance you could for no reason. I think you should be explaining why you were so obsessed about it.

    Edit, and incest is disgusting gay or straight

    Thinking its disgusting is one thing, but do you think it's wrong?


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    #49
    strobe
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    You raise an interesting question and point Scanlas, and it will be interesting if anyone can actually address it properly.


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    #50
    RedRightHand
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    Incest between close family members(male/female) is prohibited is due to fear of children being born with abnormalities. I'm not aware of another reason, maybe historically a biblical interpretation was used for it's prohibition but today few argue that laws should be based purely on religious texts. So the question remains, it was a valid question to ask. Most people would answer that's it's just too yucky but would not be able to articulate any further. Personally I think yucky is a good enough answer, even if they're consenting adults.


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    #51
    [Deleted User]
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    RedRightHand wrote: »
    Incest between close family members(male/female) is prohibited is due to fear of children being born with abnormalities. I'm not aware of another reason, maybe historically a biblical interpretation was used for it's prohibition but today few argue that laws should be based purely on religious texts. So the question remains, it was a valid question to ask. Most people would answer that's it's just too yucky but would not be able to articulate any further. Personally I think yucky is a good enough answer, even if they're consenting adults.


    but my brother and i both males messed around for years still do harmless fun we see it were hurting no-one


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    #52
    Scanlas The 2nd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    No I wouldn't be happy about it, but me being disgusted about it is hardly justification. There are plenty of parents disgusted by their homosexual children but that doesn't make it wrong to be homosexual.

    Parents disgusted by their children's homosexual relations are bigoted and living in the stone age.

    As for the part in bold, in this context it is correct but you can't apply that logic to all aspects and walks of life. Say for example "There are plenty of parents disgusted by their racist children but that doesn't make it wrong to be racist." Using the same logic that you applied to homosexuality doesn't apply to racism.

    Or another "There are plenty of parents disgusted by their rapist children but that doesn't make it wrong to be a rapist." Again there is a failure using this logic with regards to this context. The same can be said for incest.

    Nothing wrong with the logic, being disgusted by rape doesn't make it wrong. What makes rape wrong is the violation of another person's body.


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    #53
    1ZRed
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    Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »
    Thinking its disgusting is one thing, but do you think it's wrong?

    "wrong" is a very loose word to be throwing about with this. I still think it's disgusting and definitely not for me, but no, technically I don't think it's "wrong" if it's consensual and both are of the right age. Doesn't exactly make it right either though


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    #54
    cassi
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    Every time I see a thread started by scanlas I know it's gonna be some f'd up shiz!

    It's wrong because If two brothers, that grew up together and formed a bothers bond, started a relationship it would probably point to deep seeded emotional neglect and abuse. While its harming nobody else, it's gonna harm the people involved. They would actually already be harmed. It's well accepted that people who don't form functional adult relationships either physical or not, have been the victims of abuse as children. That's why it would worry me!


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    #55
    Clareman
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    Physically it would be difficult to have a problem with it, after all there wouldn't be any children to suffer from potentially damaged DNA. Psychology it would be easy to have a problem, genetically we are programmed to be attracted to people from our own family and to recognize them as someone to trust, by have a relationship with an immediate family member you are simply taking advantage of immediate environmental and genetic attractions. I believe there have been cases where people have been in relationships with each other and then discover that they were brother and sisters who were put up for adoption or twins who were separated and stuff.

    There is also the social stigmatism attached to it, I would like to think that being in a homosexual relationship in Ireland wouldn't be a problem anymore for society, but I think there would be a big issue with cousins being in a relationship with each other, I don't think socially anyone would accept brothers or sisters.


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    #56
    bleepp
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    Its disgusting...end of


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    #57
    suicide_circus
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    He ain't heavy.....


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    #58
    Cassidy28
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    He ain't heavy.....

    He's my brother


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    #59
    Dyr
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    tbh, like a lot people, my acceptance of the various types of sexuality is on the basis that what consenting adults do with each other is none of my damn business. On those grounds I'd be a hypocrite to have a problem with this, in theory.


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    #60
    Lyaiera
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    Bambi wrote: »
    tbh, like a lot people, my acceptance of the various types of sexuality is on the basis that what consenting adults do with each other is none of my damn business. On those grounds I'd be a hypocrite to have a problem with this, in theory.

    Yes, "consenting adults." Incest by it's nature brings question to the idea that two siblings can properly consent.


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    #61
    floggg
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    If there are two healthy, well adjusted brothers above the age of consent and with sufficient mental capacity to both fully consent to their actions and do so free from any underlying issues or disorders which might impair their ability to form healthy relationships, then while I would find it strange, I can't see any reason why I should stop them or intervene.

    Of course, barring the almost statistically impossible case of two non-identical twins (or blind identical twins) who happen to both by gay and be separated at birth only to find each other as adults and fall in love before learning they are in fact siblings, I would struggle to think of any circumstances where two healthy, well adjusted brothers above the age of consent and with sufficient mental capacity to both fully consent to their actions and do so free from any underlying issues or disorders which might impair their ability to form healthy relationships would actually engage in incest.


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