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Opinion on Desperados

  • 09-08-2012 5:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭


    What's your opinion on desperados? I know alot of people think it's not "real beer" but I think it's quite tasty and would happily drink a bottle.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,688 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    Vile


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Better than corona and bud, worse than Stella and heiniken.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I know alot of people think it's not "real beer"
    I'm one of that lot. It's Bacardi Breezer marketed to boys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Chris.Buckley


    BeerNut wrote: »
    It's Bacardi Breezer marketed to boys.

    Ha! fair enough , but in truth, you'd still drink a bottle of Bacardi breezer because it's tasty. couldn't stomach more than one though, too sweet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    What's your opinion on desperados? I know alot of people think it's not "real beer" but I think it's quite tasty and would happily drink a bottle.

    Absolutely awful piss. I drank a half bottle of it before and it instantly turned my stomach. Even throwing a shot of vodka into a pint doesn't taste as awful as that.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,365 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Possibly the worst liquid masquerading as beer that I've ever tasted.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    you'd still drink a bottle of Bacardi breezer because it's tasty.
    If it were I would but it's not so I wouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Chris.Buckley


    right, so I've got the general consensus on desperados, cheers. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    right, so I've got the general consensus on desperados, cheers. :rolleyes:

    I guess that makes it an under-appreciated niche drink. If you like it, drink it, but just so you know there are few drinks that are universally liked on this forum, maybe metalman is the closest thing to somethig everyone here likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Terrible stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Chris.Buckley


    metalman is the closest thing to somethig everyone here likes.
    I'll make a point of trying it then, would fran well have it?
    Also, I didn't post this because desparados is my favorite drink or anything, I just knew there were mixed opinions on it and wanted to see what the people on here thought.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    metalman is the closest thing to somethig everyone here likes.
    I'll make a point of trying it then, would fran well have it?
    Also, I didn't post this because desparados is my favorite drink or anything, I just knew there were mixed opinions on it and wanted to see what the people on here thought.

    Quite possibly, although with rebel red straight from the source it's hard to drink anything else there!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I'll make a point of trying it then
    They're doing a meet-the-brewer with free beer at the Mardyke on Sheares Street tomorrow at 8.


  • Posts: 5,078 [Deleted User]


    Rotten stuff altogether, had one sip, spat it out and poured the bottle down the sink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Owen_S


    From their own website:
    Desperados is for free spirits who are always ready for a wild experience.

    That alone is enough to put you off it.


  • Posts: 5,078 [Deleted User]


    BeerNut wrote: »
    They're doing a meet-the-brewer with free beer at the Mardyke on Sheares Street tomorrow at 8.

    Any more info on this BeerNut? Might head along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Chris.Buckley


    BeerNut wrote: »
    They're doing a meet-the-brewer with free beer at the Mardyke on Sheares Street tomorrow at 8.
    At the Mardyke? which part of it? might head along to it so..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Metalman wrote:
    We'll be in The Mardkye tomorrow evening at 8pm for a meet-the-brewer session. Free beer and nibbles, spread the good word!
    From Twitter. That's all I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,643 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'll make a point of trying it then, would fran well have it?

    The Abbot's has Metalman Pale Ale on tap at the moment.

    On the OP:
    It's not that I don't consider it to be 'real beer', I don't consider it to be beer in any sense.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    The Abbot's has Metalman Pale Ale on tap at the moment.

    On the OP:
    It's not that I don't consider it to be 'real beer', I don't consider it to be beer in any sense.

    So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    A friend of mine used to have a saying when he lived in France (Desperados is French)

    "Desperate Times, Desperados."

    I've never been desperate enough so I can't judge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,643 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?


    I suspect not!


  • Posts: 5,078 [Deleted User]


    Bit off topic but I went in to the meet the brewers last night. Got two free pints of Metalman pale ale and a quick chat with the people from Metalman. I haven't been in the Mardyke in years, not since it was called Bruno's anyway. Totally different set up in there now. They have a very good beer selection in there, a sign at the door said over 70 beers available. Very good grub in there too.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,881 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Bit off topic but I went in to the meet the brewers last night. Got two free pints of Metalman pale ale and a quick chat with the people from Metalman. I haven't been in the Mardyke in years, not since it was called Bruno's anyway. Totally different set up in there now. They have a very good beer selection in there, a sign at the door said over 70 beers available. Very good grub in there too.

    Only 70? ;)


  • Posts: 5,078 [Deleted User]


    irish_goat wrote: »
    Only 70? ;)

    Pretty good for one of the city centre pubs I thought!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Pretty good for one of the city centre pubs I thought!

    Think he means there's actually a lot more than 70 in stock there, it's a lovely spot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    As bottled beers go,I love it.

    I drink Guinness normally but was in Holland last week and it was the only beer I could stomach.Its not nearly as gassy as Corona,Bud etc and I dont like the taste of Heineken etc.

    Its easy to drink and I like the taste so thats all that matters to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    Its main ingredient is sugar, Its like that VK beer that they tried to get men to drink its like VK blue but for men. (they have there own type of Desperados now)


    Id say its aimed at the 16 to 22 year olds, who like sweet drinks, Many teenagers start on Cider as its sweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    For the few Desperados fans here, LIDL's mexican range beer tastes identical and is much cheaper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    A few bottles of Desperados and you are guaranteed to have the most acidic reflux taste in your mouth the next day. Tastes alright going down but the gawks the next day would put me off it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    Necronos wrote: »
    I drink Guinness normally but was in Holland last week and it was the only beer I could stomach.Its not nearly as gassy as Corona,Bud etc and I dont like the taste of Heineken etc.

    The Heineken they sell in Holland is different to the Irish stuff and actually quite a decent lager. Desperados is disgusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,643 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    People calling Desperados beer annoys me just as much as people calling Southern Comfort whiskey!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    People calling Desperados beer annoys me just as much as people calling Southern Comfort whiskey!

    Isn't southern comfort a whiskey liqueur though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,643 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Isn't southern comfort a whiskey liqueur though?

    yes, a whiskey liqueur or a liqueur whiskey but not whiskey.
    It merely has whiskey as an ingredient.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    yes, a whiskey liqueur or a liqueur whiskey but not whiskey.
    It merely has whiskey as an ingredient.

    So desparados is not a beer because it merely has beer as an ingredient? Is that what you're saying?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 237 ✭✭beeroclock


    Had it once didnt like it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Fiftyshades


    I guess the clue is in the name , only when I'm very desperate .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Tommay


    I've developed a taste for it over the last few weeks. I can see why alot of people dislike it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,643 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    So desparados is not a beer because it merely has beer as an ingredient? Is that what you're saying?

    I consider it to not be a beer because it is, imo, much more like an alcopop.
    Likewise, I don't consider Koppaberg or Recorderlig to really be cider.

    And yes, you can (and I've no doubt you will) bring up lambic fruit beers and the like questioning whether I consider them to be beers or not. I do and I don't really care if you consider this to be a contradiction or not.

    I'm complex;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    I love it! I don't really care what anyone thinks of its beer status, I find it's a nice summer drink - goes down well with a BBQ :)


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    So desparados is not a beer because it merely has beer as an ingredient? Is that what you're saying?

    I consider it to not be a beer because it is, imo, much more like an alcopop.
    Likewise, I don't consider Koppaberg or Recorderlig to really be cider.

    And yes, you can (and I've no doubt you will) bring up lambic fruit beers and the like questioning whether I consider them to be beers or not. I do and I don't really care if you consider this to be a contradiction or not.

    I'm complex;)

    That's fine, so long as there isn't some technical issue that takes it out of being a beer. They put tequilla flavouring into it or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,118 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    It's a "beer" designed for people who don't like beer, but want to drink something a bit more manly than WKD or Smirnoff Ice (or whatever the kids are drinking these days)
    Good marketing ploy! To be honest, a mouthful of it isn't bad imho, but after half a bottle I'm sick of it. Like all those alcopops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?
    Some people will have different opinions on what is "beer", just like dairy milk might not be able to be legally called chocolate in some countries.

    If I added 1L of neutral sugar water brew to a drop of "real beer" some might say it is still beer, some won't

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_Brewery
    Desperados' listed ingredients are water, malted barley, glucose syrup, corn, sugar, aromatic compounds (75% Tequila) citric acid, and hop extract.
    latenia wrote: »
    The Heineken they sell in Holland is different to the Irish stuff and actually quite a decent lager.
    Kegged heineken is brewed here. Canned/bottled stuff marketed to here is brewed in holland and 4.3% and probably just the normal stuff diluted down. You can pick up 5% heineken easily enough here, it is often cheaper than the 4.3% since they are sourcing from different countries where the wholesale price (mainly set by heineken) is lower. In my eurospar you often see 4.3 & 5% alongside each other, the 5% usually cheaper.

    I despise tequila, there are some tequila fans out there, but the majority I see are "hard men" drinking it because its "hardcore" to chug down a drink so vile they need to mask it with lemon/lime & salt, these guys never ask for tequila by brandname which would be an indication they only are interested in a vile tasting shot for the gimmick of it. I doubt the tequila they are putting in desparados is of decent quality.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    rubadub wrote: »
    So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?
    Some people will have different opinions on what is "beer", just like dairy milk might not be able to be legally called chocolate in some countries.

    If I added 1L of neutral sugar water brew to a drop of "real beer" some might say it is still beer, some won't

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_Brewery
    Desperados' listed ingredients are water, malted barley, glucose syrup, corn, sugar, aromatic compounds (75% Tequila) citric acid, and hop extract.
    latenia wrote: »
    The Heineken they sell in Holland is different to the Irish stuff and actually quite a decent lager.
    Kegged heineken is brewed here. Canned/bottled stuff marketed to here is brewed in holland and 4.3% and probably just the normal stuff diluted down. You can pick up 5% heineken easily enough here, it is often cheaper than the 4.3% since they are sourcing from different countries where the wholesale price (mainly set by heineken) is lower. In my eurospar you often see 4.3 & 5% alongside each other, the 5% usually cheaper.

    I despise tequila, there are some tequila fans out there, but the majority I see are "hard men" drinking it because its "hardcore" to chug down a drink so vile they need to mask it with lemon/lime & salt, these guys never ask for tequila by brandname which would be an indication they only are interested in a vile tasting shot for the gimmick of it. I doubt the tequila they are putting in desparados is of decent quality.

    I don't think anyone is suggesting that it is anything other than a guzzling beer nor that it's a particularly interesting beer to sip on. It's a bottled Mexican beer best served very cold, it's not trying to be a delicately balanced craft beer.

    And maybe I'm wrong but I thought that even beer puritans and german traditional brewers who refuse to permit anything other than malt, hops, water and yeast into their beer don't suggest that anythibg else isn't beer. I suppose you could say it's not "real beer" in one respect but I don't think you can say it's not beer at all.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    It's a bottled Mexican beer
    It's French.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    I don't think you can say it's not beer at all.
    I think there will always come a limit where people say "ah c'mon, that's taking the piss, that's not beer/chocolate/swiss made/chicken fillet"

    like my extreme example.
    rubadub wrote: »
    If I added 1L of neutral sugar water brew to a drop of "real beer" some might say it is still beer, some won't

    I imagine many people will draw the line somewhere, and the line will move depending on the person, that's all I am getting at. I expect you have your own limit of what is a beer, but you might need to be probed/questioned to discover it.

    Some might use a different term, like you will see "juice drink" on cranberry juice concoctions which are mainly made up of water & sugar. These are legally enforced, it cannot be legally marketed as juice. AFAIK If somebody made whiskey here it is not legally able to be sold as "Irish Whiskey" if they matured it for less than 3 years.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,561 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    BeerNut wrote: »
    It's French.

    Sorry Mexican "Styled" Beer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,831 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Cienciano wrote: »
    It's a "beer" designed for people who don't like beer, but want to drink something a bit more manly than WKD or Smirnoff Ice (or whatever the kids are drinking these days)
    Good marketing ploy! To be honest, a mouthful of it isn't bad imho, but after half a bottle I'm sick of it. Like all those alcopops.
    I disagree. I am a beer drinker & I occasionally drink a Desperados as I find that when well-chilled it can be quite refreshing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭marcel353


    The beer is around a good while now, back in 1994 :eek:, a friend from college during the last year happened to do a lot of work for Desperados market launch. Enjoyed it the first few years as a summer beer served very cold. I had a go again recently and definitely think the taste has changed, way way too sweet, wouldn't drink it any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Sorry Mexican "Styled" Beer.

    What's a "Mexican "Styled" Beer"?


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