Opinion on Desperados

Chris.Buckley

What's your opinion on desperados? I know alot of people think it's not "real beer" but I think it's quite tasty and would happily drink a bottle.

Heroditas

Vile

johnnyskeleton

Better than corona and bud, worse than Stella and heiniken.

BeerNut

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

I know alot of people think it's not "real beer"

I'm one of that lot. It's Bacardi Breezer marketed to boys.

Chris.Buckley

BeerNut wrote: »

It's Bacardi Breezer marketed to boys.

Ha! fair enough , but in truth, you'd still drink a bottle of Bacardi breezer because it's tasty. couldn't stomach more than one though, too sweet.

DarkJager

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

What's your opinion on desperados? I know alot of people think it's not "real beer" but I think it's quite tasty and would happily drink a bottle.

Absolutely awful piss. I drank a half bottle of it before and it instantly turned my stomach. Even throwing a shot of vodka into a pint doesn't taste as awful as that.

Zaph

Possibly the worst liquid masquerading as beer that I've ever tasted.

BeerNut

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

you'd still drink a bottle of Bacardi breezer because it's tasty.

If it were I would but it's not so I wouldn't.

Chris.Buckley

right, so I've got the general consensus on desperados, cheers. :rolleyes:

johnnyskeleton

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

right, so I've got the general consensus on desperados, cheers. :rolleyes:

I guess that makes it an under-appreciated niche drink. If you like it, drink it, but just so you know there are few drinks that are universally liked on this forum, maybe metalman is the closest thing to somethig everyone here likes.

ciaran76

Terrible stuff.

Chris.Buckley

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

metalman is the closest thing to somethig everyone here likes.

I'll make a point of trying it then, would fran well have it?
Also, I didn't post this because desparados is my favorite drink or anything, I just knew there were mixed opinions on it and wanted to see what the people on here thought.

johnnyskeleton

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

metalman is the closest thing to somethig everyone here likes.

I'll make a point of trying it then, would fran well have it?
Also, I didn't post this because desparados is my favorite drink or anything, I just knew there were mixed opinions on it and wanted to see what the people on here thought.

Quite possibly, although with rebel red straight from the source it's hard to drink anything else there!

BeerNut

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

I'll make a point of trying it then

They're doing a meet-the-brewer with free beer at the Mardyke on Sheares Street tomorrow at 8.

Rotten stuff altogether, had one sip, spat it out and poured the bottle down the sink.

Owen_S

From their own website:

Desperados is for free spirits who are always ready for a wild experience.

That alone is enough to put you off it.

BeerNut

BeerNut wrote: »

They're doing a meet-the-brewer with free beer at the Mardyke on Sheares Street tomorrow at 8.

Any more info on this BeerNut? Might head along.

Chris.Buckley

BeerNut wrote: »

They're doing a meet-the-brewer with free beer at the Mardyke on Sheares Street tomorrow at 8.

At the Mardyke? which part of it? might head along to it so..

BeerNut

Metalman wrote:

We'll be in The Mardkye tomorrow evening at 8pm for a meet-the-brewer session. Free beer and nibbles, spread the good word!

From Twitter. That's all I have.

the beer revolu

Chris.Buckley wrote: »

I'll make a point of trying it then, would fran well have it?

The Abbot's has Metalman Pale Ale on tap at the moment.

On the OP:
It's not that I don't consider it to be 'real beer', I don't consider it to be beer in any sense.

johnnyskeleton

the beer revolu wrote: »

The Abbot's has Metalman Pale Ale on tap at the moment.

On the OP:
It's not that I don't consider it to be 'real beer', I don't consider it to be beer in any sense.

So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?

hardCopy

A friend of mine used to have a saying when he lived in France (Desperados is French)

"Desperate Times, Desperados."

I've never been desperate enough so I can't judge.

the beer revolu

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?

I suspect not!

Bit off topic but I went in to the meet the brewers last night. Got two free pints of Metalman pale ale and a quick chat with the people from Metalman. I haven't been in the Mardyke in years, not since it was called Bruno's anyway. Totally different set up in there now. They have a very good beer selection in there, a sign at the door said over 70 beers available. Very good grub in there too.

irish_goat

Deleted User wrote: »

Bit off topic but I went in to the meet the brewers last night. Got two free pints of Metalman pale ale and a quick chat with the people from Metalman. I haven't been in the Mardyke in years, not since it was called Bruno's anyway. Totally different set up in there now. They have a very good beer selection in there, a sign at the door said over 70 beers available. Very good grub in there too.

Only 70?

irish_goat

irish_goat wrote: »

Only 70?

Pretty good for one of the city centre pubs I thought!

Seaneh

Deleted User wrote: »

Pretty good for one of the city centre pubs I thought!

Think he means there's actually a lot more than 70 in stock there, it's a lovely spot.

Liam McPoyle

As bottled beers go,I love it.

I drink Guinness normally but was in Holland last week and it was the only beer I could stomach.Its not nearly as gassy as Corona,Bud etc and I dont like the taste of Heineken etc.

Its easy to drink and I like the taste so thats all that matters to me.

afatbollix

Its main ingredient is sugar, Its like that VK beer that they tried to get men to drink its like VK blue but for men. (they have there own type of Desperados now)


Id say its aimed at the 16 to 22 year olds, who like sweet drinks, Many teenagers start on Cider as its sweet.

fasttalkerchat

For the few Desperados fans here, LIDL's mexican range beer tastes identical and is much cheaper.

Arciphel

A few bottles of Desperados and you are guaranteed to have the most acidic reflux taste in your mouth the next day. Tastes alright going down but the gawks the next day would put me off it.

latenia

Necronos wrote: »

I drink Guinness normally but was in Holland last week and it was the only beer I could stomach.Its not nearly as gassy as Corona,Bud etc and I dont like the taste of Heineken etc.

The Heineken they sell in Holland is different to the Irish stuff and actually quite a decent lager. Desperados is disgusting.

the beer revolu

People calling Desperados beer annoys me just as much as people calling Southern Comfort whiskey!

johnnyskeleton

the beer revolu wrote: »

People calling Desperados beer annoys me just as much as people calling Southern Comfort whiskey!

Isn't southern comfort a whiskey liqueur though?

the beer revolu

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Isn't southern comfort a whiskey liqueur though?

yes, a whiskey liqueur or a liqueur whiskey but not whiskey.
It merely has whiskey as an ingredient.

johnnyskeleton

the beer revolu wrote: »

yes, a whiskey liqueur or a liqueur whiskey but not whiskey.
It merely has whiskey as an ingredient.

So desparados is not a beer because it merely has beer as an ingredient? Is that what you're saying?

beeroclock

Had it once didnt like it

Fiftyshades

I guess the clue is in the name , only when I'm very desperate .

Tommay

I've developed a taste for it over the last few weeks. I can see why alot of people dislike it though.

the beer revolu

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So desparados is not a beer because it merely has beer as an ingredient? Is that what you're saying?

I consider it to not be a beer because it is, imo, much more like an alcopop.
Likewise, I don't consider Koppaberg or Recorderlig to really be cider.

And yes, you can (and I've no doubt you will) bring up lambic fruit beers and the like questioning whether I consider them to be beers or not. I do and I don't really care if you consider this to be a contradiction or not.

I'm complex;)

charlietheminxx

I love it! I don't really care what anyone thinks of its beer status, I find it's a nice summer drink - goes down well with a BBQ

johnnyskeleton

the beer revolu wrote: »

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So desparados is not a beer because it merely has beer as an ingredient? Is that what you're saying?

I consider it to not be a beer because it is, imo, much more like an alcopop.
Likewise, I don't consider Koppaberg or Recorderlig to really be cider.

And yes, you can (and I've no doubt you will) bring up lambic fruit beers and the like questioning whether I consider them to be beers or not. I do and I don't really care if you consider this to be a contradiction or not.

I'm complex;)

That's fine, so long as there isn't some technical issue that takes it out of being a beer. They put tequilla flavouring into it or something.

Cienciano

It's a "beer" designed for people who don't like beer, but want to drink something a bit more manly than WKD or Smirnoff Ice (or whatever the kids are drinking these days)
Good marketing ploy! To be honest, a mouthful of it isn't bad imho, but after half a bottle I'm sick of it. Like all those alcopops.

rubadub

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?

Some people will have different opinions on what is "beer", just like dairy milk might not be able to be legally called chocolate in some countries.

If I added 1L of neutral sugar water brew to a drop of "real beer" some might say it is still beer, some won't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_Brewery

Desperados' listed ingredients are water, malted barley, glucose syrup, corn, sugar, aromatic compounds (75% Tequila) citric acid, and hop extract.

latenia wrote: »

The Heineken they sell in Holland is different to the Irish stuff and actually quite a decent lager.

Kegged heineken is brewed here. Canned/bottled stuff marketed to here is brewed in holland and 4.3% and probably just the normal stuff diluted down. You can pick up 5% heineken easily enough here, it is often cheaper than the 4.3% since they are sourcing from different countries where the wholesale price (mainly set by heineken) is lower. In my eurospar you often see 4.3 & 5% alongside each other, the 5% usually cheaper.

I despise tequila, there are some tequila fans out there, but the majority I see are "hard men" drinking it because its "hardcore" to chug down a drink so vile they need to mask it with lemon/lime & salt, these guys never ask for tequila by brandname which would be an indication they only are interested in a vile tasting shot for the gimmick of it. I doubt the tequila they are putting in desparados is of decent quality.

johnnyskeleton

rubadub wrote: »

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

So its not a fermented beverage made from water yeast grains hops and sugars?

Some people will have different opinions on what is "beer", just like dairy milk might not be able to be legally called chocolate in some countries.

If I added 1L of neutral sugar water brew to a drop of "real beer" some might say it is still beer, some won't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer_Brewery

Desperados' listed ingredients are water, malted barley, glucose syrup, corn, sugar, aromatic compounds (75% Tequila) citric acid, and hop extract.

latenia wrote: »

The Heineken they sell in Holland is different to the Irish stuff and actually quite a decent lager.

Kegged heineken is brewed here. Canned/bottled stuff marketed to here is brewed in holland and 4.3% and probably just the normal stuff diluted down. You can pick up 5% heineken easily enough here, it is often cheaper than the 4.3% since they are sourcing from different countries where the wholesale price (mainly set by heineken) is lower. In my eurospar you often see 4.3 & 5% alongside each other, the 5% usually cheaper.

I despise tequila, there are some tequila fans out there, but the majority I see are "hard men" drinking it because its "hardcore" to chug down a drink so vile they need to mask it with lemon/lime & salt, these guys never ask for tequila by brandname which would be an indication they only are interested in a vile tasting shot for the gimmick of it. I doubt the tequila they are putting in desparados is of decent quality.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that it is anything other than a guzzling beer nor that it's a particularly interesting beer to sip on. It's a bottled Mexican beer best served very cold, it's not trying to be a delicately balanced craft beer.

And maybe I'm wrong but I thought that even beer puritans and german traditional brewers who refuse to permit anything other than malt, hops, water and yeast into their beer don't suggest that anythibg else isn't beer. I suppose you could say it's not "real beer" in one respect but I don't think you can say it's not beer at all.

BeerNut

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

It's a bottled Mexican beer

It's French.

rubadub

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

I don't think you can say it's not beer at all.

I think there will always come a limit where people say "ah c'mon, that's taking the piss, that's not beer/chocolate/swiss made/chicken fillet"

like my extreme example.

rubadub wrote: »

If I added 1L of neutral sugar water brew to a drop of "real beer" some might say it is still beer, some won't

I imagine many people will draw the line somewhere, and the line will move depending on the person, that's all I am getting at. I expect you have your own limit of what is a beer, but you might need to be probed/questioned to discover it.

Some might use a different term, like you will see "juice drink" on cranberry juice concoctions which are mainly made up of water & sugar. These are legally enforced, it cannot be legally marketed as juice. AFAIK If somebody made whiskey here it is not legally able to be sold as "Irish Whiskey" if they matured it for less than 3 years.

johnnyskeleton

BeerNut wrote: »

It's French.

Sorry Mexican "Styled" Beer.

The Hill Billy

Cienciano wrote: »

It's a "beer" designed for people who don't like beer, but want to drink something a bit more manly than WKD or Smirnoff Ice (or whatever the kids are drinking these days)
Good marketing ploy! To be honest, a mouthful of it isn't bad imho, but after half a bottle I'm sick of it. Like all those alcopops.

I disagree. I am a beer drinker & I occasionally drink a Desperados as I find that when well-chilled it can be quite refreshing.

marcel353

The beer is around a good while now, back in 1994 :eek:, a friend from college during the last year happened to do a lot of work for Desperados market launch. Enjoyed it the first few years as a summer beer served very cold. I had a go again recently and definitely think the taste has changed, way way too sweet, wouldn't drink it any more.

BaZmO*

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Sorry Mexican "Styled" Beer.

What's a "Mexican "Styled" Beer"?