Breaking Bad - Predictions

Mr.Crinklewood

Seems to be a lot of knowledgable people on the forum.

Any predictions of what will happen?

Only prediction I have so far is that Walt kills SkylR using the cigarette.

Mr.Saturn

The most consistent knack in BB is Jesse's referring to Walt as Mr.White, owing to their high-school back-story, but I believe it's building up to something, namely Jesse's discovery of Walt's misdeeds, and confronting him with a "Hello, Walter".

I also predict that Marie Schrader will wear purple, and Walt Jr. will eat breakfast.....

I also read a really, really good fan-theory regarding Walt and Hank's relationship on Freakin' Awesome Network, by a poster named Rican, that suggests that even when/if Hank catches Walt, he'll let him go out of pride.

I actually have a different idea of how things will play out if (when) Hank finds out about Walt.

Basically, he won't bust him. Think about it. We saw a tease of it in this past episode. Hank's boss got the boot for having Gus right under his nose and not acting. Can you imagine what the DEA's reaction will be when they realize Hank had this huge meth manufacturer in his own damn family? Even if there isn't any formal discipline, there's going to be an investigation on Hank, too. At BEST, he'll be a laughingstock, which Hank still won't be able to take.

Hank may be the most morally upright character on the show, but he has a flaw: pride. It's not as bad as Walt certainly, but we saw it when he didn't want anyone to know how badly he was traumatized by the incident in El Paso, or how he didn't want help with his physical therapy. He won't want to be seen as a joke.

Further than that, how long before someone realizes Hank's therapy was paid for with Walt's drug money? How long before someone asks why the lead investigator on the Heisenberg case missed so many clues, made false arrests (season 2) and asks what if Hank was in on it and helped? Hell, Walt GOT the idea to start making meth in the first damn place from going on a ride-along drug bust with Hank!

When Hank realizes who Walt is, he'll also realize his ass is on the line, be it on his own or by Walt or Saul or someone pointing it out. His moral code won't let him kill Walt and cover it up, so he'll force him to leave town and hope the blue stuff dries up and the whole thing gets swept under the rug. This is what we saw with Walt on the run at the start of the season.

However, Hank will be unsuccessful. The theme of the show, I believe, is that EVERYONE will break bad. Hank's breaking bad moment will be letting Walt go, and it will cost him, too.

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Paully D

I think the ending will be very complex and difficult and probably not something any of us will get near by guessing, but it's worth a go

I can see Jesse turning on Walt. Whilst Walt has looked out for Jesse, Walt has also done so many bad things to Jesse that he doesn't even know about - off the top of my head there's the fact he didn't try and save Jane, he poisoned Brock with the plant, he gave him no choice but to kill Gael, he also tricked him with the ricin cigarette. Like Mr Saturn above mentions, I think it's all going to come to a head.

Mike has constantly warned Jesse that Walt is a bomb waiting to go off and we see that Mike does actually like Jesse. We know Jesse can cook properly now and Mike is able for the business side of things. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jesse and Mike team up to take over things whilst also go gunning to kill Walt.

Probably a bit too simplistic and obvious to actually be the ending but it's the best I can come up with :pac:

lyons2

Whether we like it or not this is an AMC (American) production. Therefore Walt will lose everything, the camera will pan out and we will see him being interviewed from the inside of a prison cell, how he did what he did etc. Hank WILL be hailed as the Hero.
Jessie will be the one to come out on top, he will have learned a couple of lessons and have a few bob in his pocket.

watch for the spinoff 'Sol'

Rosy Posy

I really want to see Jesse get away with the money. Walt will lose his family. Hank will lose his job. Couldn't guess how it will all get there tho.

Funglegunk

I predict Walt will regrow his hair and purchase an M60 machine gun!

Walts dead body will have flies/bugs crawling over it in one of the final scenes.

evolving_doors

Funglegunk wrote: »

I predict Walt will regrow his hair and purchase an M60 machine gun!

Hmm think that was M80 ammunition at the start of Season 5... Nearly forgot about that scene, all that heavy duty gun isn;t for just one person though (i.e. mike) although it could just be a device to set someone up with.. It looks like about a good few months after the start of Season 5 if you look at the hair and beard.

I also think that Mike is going to become the new Protagonist for a while (Antagonist, whatever)..

I reckon you'll probably see a lot more people gunning for Mike over Walt in the next few weeks. Basically Mike plays exactly by the rules of the game and doesn't get greedy, he knows exactly how the system works both from an ex-cop's point of view and a criminal's point of view.

The sole reason he has to stay in the game is his family (granddaughter is caught up in the hazard pay/threatened by Hank and Gomez thing). If he wanted he could disappear in a flash given his expertise.

The sole reason Walt should be getting out of the game is his family, but he won't (scarface syndrome).

I reckon also that once that Blue CrystalMeth hits the streets again Hank will be back on the scene in a big way, remember Hanks only real link to the Blue Crystal Meth before was Jessie so inevitably he'll have to explore that avenue.

Also those dudes who shafted hank in the Grey Matter chemistry business will probably make an appearance again, there was a few flashbacks of Walt and the Woman but it just seemed unresolved and left hanging at the time.... they probably have a massive lab so Walt would love to become top dog of that again, maybe a long shot but he could put them in financial trouble to blackmail them into starting a global meth lab....

gnfnrhead

Armelodie wrote: »

Hmm think that was M80 ammunition at the start of Season 5... Nearly forgot about that scene, all that heavy duty gun isn;t for just one person though (i.e. mike) although it could just be a device to set someone up with.. It looks like about a good few months after the start of Season 5 if you look at the hair and beard.

It's about a year away. It was his 52nd birthday and Marie just said its almost Walt's birthday one year after he got cancer. He was told about the cancer at 50 meaning he's just about 51 now.

JaMarcus Hustle

Walt will claim the throne.

blatantrereg

Everybody will die.

Mr.Saturn

I look forward to seeing how truly evil Walt can get, and I don't rule out the notion of his redemption. Still, he's an arse, and I want to see how much so he can get, before the inevitable fall.

JohnMarston

Walt eventually goes to war against either Mike and Jesse or Mike on his own after he kills Jesse.

Or

The jig is up, Hank knows everything about the operation Gus was running and who was involved, Walt has had to go on the run, Jesse dies or gets arrested in some confrontation with the law.

evolving_doors

JohnMarston wrote: »

Walt eventually goes to war against either Mike and Jesse or Mike on his own after he kills Jesse.

Or

The jig is up, Hank knows everything about the operation Gus was running and who was involved, Walt has had to go on the run, Jesse dies or gets arrested in some confrontation with the law.

Naa I just don;t see walt actually using the M80 like in Scarface, it would be just too cliched in a writing sense... he's the geeky type that would go for the chemical/booby trap type of response.

Reckon he'll just Kill Skyler and all his problems will be solved

Rosy Posy

blatantrereg wrote: »

Everybody will die.

from Hazard Pay- 'Everybody dies in this movie', while they're watching Scarface...reckon its another case of foreshadowing?

blatantrereg

Rosy Posy wrote: »

from Hazard Pay- 'Everybody dies in this movie', while they're watching Scarface...reckon its another case of foreshadowing?

Yes that's exactly what I was thinking

JohnMarston

Rosy Posy wrote: »

from Hazard Pay- 'Everybody dies in this movie', while they're watching Scarface...reckon its another case of foreshadowing?

i hope not, its a little too obvious if it goes down the scarface plot formula. But its checking all the boxes so far:

Eliminate competition: Gus is dead
Distributors and muscle: Jesse, Mike and his connections
Money laundering: Saul

All he needs now is to cross the wrong man and get high on his own product. Then Walt making a last man stand after the rest of his allies die.

blatantrereg

Tony Montana is a archetypal gangster who is condemned by ultimately by what might be his only genuinely good act in the film: He kills the hitman, (and signs his own death warrant) in order to protect the life of the target's infant son when it turned out he was to be included in the hit.

Walter White starts off as an archetypal schoolteacher - which might be as far from being a gangster on a social level as you can get. He seems likely to fall foul of his misdeeds catching up with him. Maybe it's a juxtaposition.

Whatsisname

Once the whiney bitch Skylar dies, I'm a happy man.

Oranage2

Walt dies of cancer.

Professional Griefer

Oranage2 wrote: »

Walt dies of cancer.

Just on that..again this is taken from reddit.

''The Watch that Jesse gives Walt is the Tag Heuer Monaco, a watch forever linked to and made famous by Steve McQueen in the movie Le Mans.
Steve McQueen... died of a rare, inoperable lung cancer.''

Said I'd put it in spoilers, no real reason to

Mr.Saturn

I'm erring by the way of caution and self-preservation in the face of the inevitable, that being my favourite characters die. I'm quietly anticipating episode 8x16 opening with Jesse and Saul face down and decomposing in a ditch. I'm actively trying to dislike the two to soften its impact, but it gets harder with every episode.

Mr.Crinklewood

Walt tries to kill Skylar, but kills one of the children instead?

CMpunked

I was thinking bout it last night, Skyler doesnt see a way out and has to resort to waiting for Walt to die and she can be rid of him. What if Walt grows more and more pissed at her not being the same woman he was married to at the start of the show?
At this point everyone close to her knows shes gone a little bit nuts so would it be possible for Walt to spike her with the Ricin and then when she has the 'flu like symptoms' and probably not able to hold consciousness together, Walt ties her up in the hot press room and hang her? Making it look like suicide?

Jigga

I think Walt Jr will be killed in a car crash soon, there has been too much focus on the new cars and Walt Jr.'s lack of driving skills for him not to end up in a major accident. Maybe it will breathe some humanity back into Walter.

Jigga

Jigga wrote: »

I think Walt Jr will be killed in a car crash soon, there has been too much focus on the new cars and Walt Jr.'s lack of driving skills for him not to end up in a major accident. Maybe it will breathe some humanity back into Walter.

Marie's little eyes off the road thing might be a foreshadowing of her meeting her end soon.
Good one with Jr too.

irish son

Rosy Posy wrote: »

from Hazard Pay- 'Everybody dies in this movie', while they're watching Scarface...reckon its another case of foreshadowing?

I dont reckon this was a foreshadowing, I saw this more as Skyler hearing it and fearing her and especially the kids will end up dead unless they get away from Walt, you can see the fear in her eyes after she sees this.

Its very hard to see how itll end, I always taught over the last few seasons that Jesse will find out about Brock and Jane and itll end with a showdown between the 2, with Hank just after figuring it all out on his way only to find Walt dead with Jesse gone driving into the sunset with a bag full of money. But afer the last few episodes I can see Skyler killing Walt and accepting the consequences for it by going to jail just to keep her kids safe. I dont see how the opening scene of this season fits into either of these so im probably way off :pac:

I actually think it would be cool in a way if Walt managed to get away scot free with the children with everyone else taking a fall. It would be so wrong it would be funny, who says there has to be justice

Paully D

By the way, Vince Gilligan has said the flashforward at the start of the series and Walt buying the gun etc is because

he has gone back to ''protect someone''.

Paully D

Paully D wrote: »

By the way, Vince Gilligan has said the flashforward at the start of the series and Walt buying the gun etc is because

he has gone back to ''protect someone''.

Probably Jesse?

ViveLaVie

Walt will kill Hank!

dueyfinster

Lydia has got to go (Will Mike get his chance?) - I'm thinking something with Madrigal really screws up supply and it goes downhill from there?

Old Perry

Paully D wrote: »

By the way, Vince Gilligan has said the flashforward at the start of the series and Walt buying the gun etc is because

he has gone back to ''protect someone''.

the references to jesse james suggest there's a 'robert ford' in the mix, Walt goes to save his family from whoever it may be (?) and ends up ...dead?

Although Ix Deadmau5's spoiler is good ,threw me a bit.

snausages

Walt Jr. crashes car. Skyler blames Walt and threatens to tell Hank about drugs and stuff. Walt goes full Heisenberg and kills her. Goes on the run as we see in the 'flash-forward', though what he needs the shotgun for I can't work out.

Even if it doesn't happen exactly like that it's obvious from the Scarface allusion both in interviews and in the series itself that Walt's actions will end up with the death of a loved one.

latenia

dueyfinster wrote: »

Lydia has got to go (Will Mike get his chance?) - I'm thinking something with Madrigal really screws up supply and it goes downhill from there?

I reckon Lydia has created some kind of 'insurance policy' to keep herself alive, like a dossier to be released to police in the event of her death or disappearance. She was very insistent to Jesse to name Mike in full which makes me think she was recording him...

Sinfonia

What do people think about the timeframe of Season 5?
The length of time between the pilot and 504 is obviously one year, and the flash-forward at the beginning of 501 is another year later.. Is Season 5 going to span an entire year in sixteen episodes, or will we be shown two timelines concurrently, or will there be a gap in the middle (perhaps things coming to a head after the first 8 episodes, and then episode 9 picks up a year later)? Thoughts?

Also, what do people think regarding the smaller details of the flash-forward (i.e. apart from the gun)?
Walt's hair has grown, so he's obviously not in chemotherapy, although he does still have at least a small cough, and still has medication in his pocket.
He's assumed a new identity - a Mr. Lambert from New Hampshire, although he has seemingly kept his actual birthday on the ID (why would he do that?) - and is dressed and styled in a rough, unkempt manner; again very unusual, given that he typically dresses very neatly, and keeps his beard neat etc.
The flash-forward also doesn't affirm that he's in Albuquerque, although I would say that he is - is the man who sells him the gun the same man from 402?

The Scratcher

I don't think it's necessarily a year forward. It could be any length of time. The only reason he did the birthday thing was so the girl at the counter would remember him. He came in, arranged his food so she'd notice, didn't eat anything, went to the toilet and left a $100 tip before walking out and ignoring her happy birthday remark... I've no idea what's gonna happen, but there must be a reason for doing each of the above.

Sinfonia

The Scratcher wrote: »

I don't think it's necessarily a year forward. It could be any length of time. The only reason he did the birthday thing was so the girl at the counter would remember him. He came in, arranged his food so she'd notice, didn't eat anything, went to the toilet and left a $100 tip before walking out and ignoring her happy birthday remark... I've no idea what's gonna happen, but there must be a reason for doing each of the above.

Well, just to play devil's advocate against the above:
1) I don't see why he'd want her to remember him, can you elaborate on that?
2) He arranged his food the way Skyler always did on his birthday; his disposition could suggest (and I would say is supposed to suggest) that he is sad, presumably after losing his family (in whatever way - either way he's alone on his birthday).
3) He didn't eat anything because he wasn't there to eat - he was there to buy the gun. But he had to order something for appearances. The $100 tip is presumably for the audience's benefit, to show that he's rich.

Not necessarily refuting your theory btw, the writers are definitely fond of red herrings, so it's definitely a possibility..

The Scratcher

Sinfonia wrote: »

Well, just to play devil's advocate against the above:
1) I don't see why he'd want her to remember him, can you elaborate on that?
2) He arranged his food the way Skyler always did on his birthday; his disposition could suggest (and I would say is supposed to suggest) that he is sad, presumably after losing his family (in whatever way - either way he's alone on his birthday).
3) He didn't eat anything because he wasn't there to eat - he was there to buy the gun. But he had to order something for appearances. The $100 tip is presumably for the audience's benefit, to show that he's rich.

Not necessarily refuting your theory btw, the writers are definitely fond of red herrings, so it's definitely a possibility..

All distinct possibilities too.


1) I'm only speculating! The fact is I don't know. It does seem odd to tip $100 and I doubt it's for the audience's benefit. It shows more so that he doesn't care about money any more. Not like in the scene where they are dividing up the cash with Mike, he cares about money then!!


2) But he is using Skylars last name!! Witness protection maybe?

He doesn't appear all that sad to me, we only see a spark of the old sciencey Walter White when he remembers the science museum in New Hampshire; perhaps for that brief moment he regrets what he has become and pines for the old Walter the chemistry teacher.

3) But why go to a Denny's to conduct the trasaction when he has previously purchased weapons from this guy in a motel, which is much safer and private.

During season 2 when the flash forward at the start showed the pink teddy in the pool did anyone think it was from a mid air collision of two passenger jets?! I'm just trying to think outside the box a bit, I'm hoping we start getting more clues soon on the start up parts though (can't think what they're called- sleepy!), like in season 2.

Paully D

Sinfonia wrote: »

What do people think about the timeframe of Season 5?
The length of time between the pilot and 504 is obviously one year, and the flash-forward at the beginning of 501 is another year later.. Is Season 5 going to span an entire year in sixteen episodes, or will we be shown two timelines concurrently, or will there be a gap in the middle (perhaps things coming to a head after the first 8 episodes, and then episode 9 picks up a year later)? Thoughts?

Also, what do people think regarding the smaller details of the flash-forward (i.e. apart from the gun)?
Walt's hair has grown, so he's obviously not in chemotherapy, although he does still have at least a small cough, and still has medication in his pocket.
He's assumed a new identity - a Mr. Lambert from New Hampshire, although he has seemingly kept his actual birthday on the ID (why would he do that?) - and is dressed and styled in a rough, unkempt manner; again very unusual, given that he typically dresses very neatly, and keeps his beard neat etc.
The flash-forward also doesn't affirm that he's in Albuquerque, although I would say that he is - is the man who sells him the gun the same man from 402?

It's been made official that we'll have 8 episodes, a years break and then the next 8 episodes this time next year so it will have actually been a year from now

Sinfonia

The Scratcher wrote: »

All distinct possibilities too.


1) I'm only speculating! The fact is I don't know. It does seem odd to tip $100 and I doubt it's for the audience's benefit. It shows more so that he doesn't care about money any more. Not like in the scene where they are dividing up the cash with Mike, he cares about money then!!


2) But he is using Skylars last name!! Witness protection maybe?

He doesn't appear all that sad to me, we only see a spark of the old sciencey Walter White when he remembers the science museum in New Hampshire; perhaps for that brief moment he regrets what he has become and pines for the old Walter the chemistry teacher.

3) But why go to a Denny's to conduct the trasaction when he has previously purchased weapons from this guy in a motel, which is much safer and private.

During season 2 when the flash forward at the start showed the pink teddy in the pool did anyone think it was from a mid air collision of two passenger jets?! I'm just trying to think outside the box a bit, I'm hoping we start getting more clues soon on the start up parts though (can't think what they're called- sleepy!), like in season 2.

Didn't realise that was Skyler's name, that's interesting!
I know what you're saying though, I think the way I put it is how we're 'supposed' to see it, but yeah, much like Season 2, they do have that tendency to misdirect.
'Cold open' was the term you were looking for :P

Paully D wrote: »

It's been made official that we'll have 8 episodes, a years break and then the next 8 episodes this time next year so it will have actually been a year from now

I'm just wondering if the timeframe of the show will sync with that (as the first four seasons only span a year)

gnfnrhead

How long would it take for his hair to grow back? A few months? Could be a fake birthday along with the possible fake ID. He is finished with the chemo now, isn't he? Assuming the cancer comes back he could just not go again.

I too think it was all an act so he would be remembered. Likely so that he has a witness who can say he was there in case things go wrong. It'll give him a small window to clear him if needs be. The girl is unlikely to remember the time or name or anything, just that it was his birthday and the big tip he left.

Mr.Saturn

Not so much a prediction as it is an ardent prayer/ropey fan-fiction, but what I would love, like nothing else, after our Scarface moments and wars and the like, is if S5E16 finishes with a cold-ending, set an unspecified numbers of years later, of just a hoard of fresh-faces filing into a lecture-hall on their first day of the year, giggling and bustling nervously as you do, staring forward at an empty podium.

The camera pans back to the anticipating faces as we hear the staff door crane open off-shot, accompanied by clumsy shuffles and a handful of muttered, raspy expletives as the we see the students sat there once more, somewhat stupefied. Then, we get our reveal:

"Hello, I'm Dr. Jesse Pinkman"

With Chemical Sciences written in exaggerated letters on the whiteboard behind him.

I'll just end the embarrassing fan-**** there.

Sinfonia

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Not so much a prediction as it is an ardent prayer/ropey fan-fiction, but what I would love, like nothing else, after our Scarface moments and wars and the like, is if S5E16 finishes with a cold-ending, of just a hoard of fresh-faces filing into a lecture-hall on their first day of the year, giggling and bustling nervously as you do, staring forward at an empty podium.

The camera pans back to the anticipating faces as we hear the staff door crane open off-shot, accompanied by clumsy shuffles and a handful of muttered, raspy expletives as the we see the students sat there once more, somewhat stupefied. Then, we get our reveal:

"Hello, I'm Dr. Jesse Pinkman"

With Chemical Sciences written in exaggerated letters on the whiteboard behind him.

I'll just end the embarrassing fan-**** there.

I like Jesse and all, but he ain't gettin' no PhD in a year :P

Mr.Saturn

I think that's the purpose of a cold-ending, so an unspecified amount of time is allowed to pass.

Rosy Posy

Sinfonia wrote: »

Well, just to play devil's advocate against the above:
1) I don't see why he'd want her to remember him, can you elaborate on that?
2) He arranged his food the way Skyler always did on his birthday; his disposition could suggest (and I would say is supposed to suggest) that he is sad, presumably after losing his family (in whatever way - either way he's alone on his birthday).
3) He didn't eat anything because he wasn't there to eat - he was there to buy the gun. But he had to order something for appearances. The $100 tip is presumably for the audience's benefit, to show that he's rich.

Walt's too smart to do any of these things by chance...he arranged the bacon so that the waitress would notice it was his birthday and ask for his id for his free meal, and just to make sure she remembered him he left the $100 tip. He was establishing his false identity and his whereabouts at the time ...as an alibi? ...Or because he's going to do something terrible with that big gun and wants it squarely pinned on Mr Lambert from New Hampshire?

Mocha Joe

I read a theory that in one of the last episodes there will be a flashback to Walt at Grey Matter. We find out what happened there and why he left. Prediction is that it's an embryonic Heisenberg moment. He always had that side to him. They did hint before that he walked away because of his famous pride/ego.

I thought it was an awesome idea when I read it.

evolving_doors

Mocha Joe wrote: »

I read a theory that in one of the last episodes there will be a flashback to Walt at Grey Matter. We find out what happened there and why he left. Prediction is that it's an embryonic Heisenberg moment. He always had that side to him. They did hint before that he walked away because of his famous pride/ego.

I thought it was an awesome idea when I read it.

Ya definitely I always thought the Grey Matter issue will be back in some form, it seemed a little unfinished with all the flash backs of him and yer wan from grey matter. Walt always thought that he was shortchanged by them. If he wants to build an empire then the grey matter avenue might be a good route to it... Maybe they find themselves in financial difficulty and Walt has an interesting proposal!

CMpunked

I have a feeling episode 8 of this years portion will end with 1 of 2 scenarios;
Hank figuring it all out or Marie being killed. I know some are saying skyler but I think it's too predictable for this show.

Rosy Posy

Here's a thought....we first met Mike in the show after Jane died he came to the gaf to clear up all the evidence of drugs and sort Jessie out...I wonder did Jessie call Saul or did Walt give him the heads up? If it was Walt then Saul, and possibly Mike, have the goods on Walt fcuking Jessie over by letting Jane die and poisoning Brock...I really hope the conclusion involves Jessie being made aware of these facts and opening his eyes to how badly Walt has been playing him.

The Scratcher

I'm not 100% sure on this one, I'll have to watch the episode again, but when Walt is suiting up to go cooking in the most recent episode he starts whistling what I think is an old christian song called Lily of the Valley, I think Jessie picks up on this that's why he freezes and just stares into the cook house before he takes a call from Mike. It doesn't make sense that Walt would whistle this song though as he doesn't strike me as the bible thumping kind, man of science and all that he is! However he could just be totally fúcking with Jessie's head. I would imagine Walt had no trouble sleeping unlike what he told Jessie!

Edit: I think I might be way off the mark here and it's more likely Jesse is just getting more and more disgusted at Walt's lack of morals and compassion.

CMpunked

The Scratcher wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure on this one, I'll have to watch the episode again, but when Walt is suiting up to go cooking in the most recent episode he starts whistling what I think is an old christian song called Lily of the Valley, I think Jessie picks up on this that's why he freezes and just stares into the cook house before he takes a call from Mike. It doesn't make sense that Walt would whistle this song though as he doesn't strike me as the bible thumping kind, man of science and all that he is! However he could just be totally fúcking with Jessie's head. I would imagine Walt had no trouble sleeping unlike what he told Jessie!

Edit: I think I might be way off the mark here and it's more likely Jesse is just getting more and more disgusted at Walt's lack of morals and compassion.

Well of course, thats

why he wanted out of the business.