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Most extroadinary inter planetary.......plan

  • 27-07-2012 08:39PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭


    Our only hope for survival is to download our brains onto something which can last the thousands of years it will take to get to another habital planet and reasemble ourselves when we get there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    bread butter pudding is lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'll get right on that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    kneemos wrote: »
    Our only hope for survival is to download our brains onto something which can last the thousands of years it will take to get to another habital planet and reasemble ourselves when we get there.

    We will need the carpenters again!

    (Fellow oldies will get it!) :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    kneemos wrote: »
    Our only hope for survival is to download our brains onto something which can last the thousands of years it will take to get to another habital planet and reasemble ourselves when we get there.
    Good plan.

    How does it work exactly?


    Or even vaguely?


    Have you thought this through at all OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Have you concocted a plan as to how to achieve this? If so I'm on board Captain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    If we do it it will be as a nanobot cloud, not in our crappy fleshy bodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Where To wrote: »
    Good plan.

    How does it work exactly?


    Or even vaguely?


    Have you thought this through at all OP?

    Yes.I've thought about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    kneemos wrote: »
    Our only hope for survival is to download our brains onto something

    *searches for 64mb flash drive*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    bleg wrote: »
    If we do it it will be as a nanobot cloud, not in our crappy fleshy bodies.


    speak for yourself im an Adonis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 DarkKnight444


    They hinted at that (or maybe it was blatant) in Prometheus. I used to live in dread or the robot apocalypse but I'm coming around to the idea of sending a robot(s) with DNA and a backup of all human information and knowledge into the depths of the universe. It's more realistic today than sending ourselves millions of light years away. Even with modern technology a robot could probably be sent a huge distance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Dennis Quaid will just end up playing God again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    News team..................aaaassssssseeeemmmmmbbbbblllleeeeee!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I think multiple expeditions will be needed.Don't want to put all our eggs in one basket.Choice of heads would be crucial also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    "True, we know of no insect society that has produced a Shakespeare, an Einstein or a Cherynkov, but before you let that go to your head, take the example of the Arachnids, a highly organized, highly evolved insect society. They are relatively stupid by human standards. Workers have an IQ of 12, warriors around 35 , and yet the Arachnids have colonized planets. Over a million years of evolution, Nature has provided the Arachnids with the biological means to hurl their spore into space"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Yeah I liked starship troopers too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    kneemos wrote: »
    Our only hope for survival is to download our brains onto something which can last the thousands of years it will take to get to another habital planet and reasemble ourselves when we get there.

    Not possible

    I read an experment conducted with mice before. They were trying to find out what part of the brain was for what or something.
    Anyway they made them remember how to get to food in a maze over a cuple of monts.
    when they could get there consistnly without making a wrong turn they took a bit of each of the mices brains out and no matter what part they took out they could still remember how to get there

    I am not sure what conclusion they made. was all complicated language but there is no particular part of the brain that is responisble for anything which if i get what you are trying to suggest whould be required to activly 'download' your brain.

    Unless i am coming at this from the wrong angle and you have another idea

    Edit: yes this does mean that 'left/right brained' is complete rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    kneemos wrote: »
    Yes.I've thought about it

    Phew! Onward and upward, so!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    bleg wrote: »
    If we do it it will be as a nanobot cloud, not in our crappy fleshy bodies.

    As if midges weren't bad enough :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Phew! Onward and upward, so!

    Do you want me to build the spaceship and send you the plans.It's an idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    bleg wrote: »
    If we do it it will be as a nanobot cloud, not in our crappy fleshy bodies.

    I am quite like my 'fleshy body' as it aloud me to have sex.... and eat. With these robot bodys things you are on about these things will not be possilbe.

    go stand in the corner and think about what you are suggesting. Dont come back until you are ready to appoligise for suggesting such a thing ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    Yes I will download my consciousness into the internet, RedTube here I cum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Tonyandthewhale


    Not possible

    I read an experment conducted with mice before. They were trying to find out what part of the brain was for what or something...

    I am not sure what conclusion they made. was all complicated language but there is no particular part of the brain that is responisble for anything which if i get what you are trying to suggest whould be required to activly 'download' your brain.

    Unless i am coming at this from the wrong angle and you have another idea

    Edit: yes this does mean that 'left/right brained' is complete rubbish

    I think you should read that experiment again. Localisation of function within the brain is a pretty well established fact as is the left/right brained concept.

    You are however correct in your assumption that the OP's suggestion is bumpkis.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭MOC88


    Ignoring all the jokes....
    the best way possible would be
    1. nanobots that maintain your brain so you don't need to be downloaded for the massive distances
    2. you could attach computers on to your brain that could facilitate sharing the work between the normal brain and your own (you'd also to have a copy of both memories in your artificial parts so that you don't lose them) - as parts of your biological brain shuts down the artificial one would start taking more of the workforce until you're comlpletely digitized = you've now escaped death and can go digitally where you want yay :pac:

    now the big problem is bridging the gap of distance - one of the most problematic situations would be dust which traveling at massive speeds thorugh space may cause a serious impact problem - you could build an ice shield of a planet size and use it to sweep up all the impacts in front of the ship- the slower the ship goes the better

    but why would you care about living in a specific planet when you're digitized anyway

    if we can do the above we would probably capable of producing artificial environments to live in anyhow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭Colmustard


    I think you should read that experiment again. Localisation of function within the brain is a pretty well established fact as is the left/right brained concept.

    You are however correct in your assumption that the OP's suggestion is bumpkis.

    But your memories are not, they don't exactly know where or how our memories are stored. Although we can lose our memory in an accident we only lose our ability to recall them. The memories are still somewhere.

    For example we know the alphabet but we could never forget the t or the u and they don't know why. Some theories believe the brain records every experience we ever had holographically but they don't understand the mechanism and that is controversal as it can never be proven.

    Man may never understand the complete workings of the brain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If you could digitize your brain could you not send scout ships at massive speeds to various parts of the galaxy and transmit the info when they get there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Cú Giobach


    I think you should read that experiment again. Localisation of function within the brain is a pretty well established fact as is the left/right brained concept.

    You are however correct in your assumption that the OP's suggestion is bumpkis.
    We have more neurons in our bellies than mice do in their brains (approx 100 million v's 75 million). ;)
    Looks like the OP would have to shove a flash drive up his/her arse to download the lot. :D

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-second-brain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    id be happy with my conciousness integrated into fallout 3 (with a few extra 'mods', :pac:)..but im not sure if cyber boobies show up pixellated up close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    We have more neurons in our bellies than mice do in their brains (approx 100 million v's 75 million). ;)
    Looks like the OP would have to shove a flash drive up his/her arse to download the lot. :D

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-second-brain

    Amazing stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭crazy cabbage


    I think you should read that experiment again. Localisation of function within the brain is a pretty well established fact as is the left/right brained concept.

    You are however correct in your assumption that the OP's suggestion is bumpkis.

    copy and pasted becouse i couldn't be bothered to rewrite
    This myth holds that a right-brain person is generally creative, intuitive, artsy, while a left-brain person is more of a problem-solver, more linear, logical. The myth arose from genuine science, but new imaging technology has shown that the brain is more interdependent than once thought. The myth probably took root in the 1800s, when scientists discovered that an injury to one side of the brain often caused a loss of specific abilities. For example, spatial abilities seemed to reside in the right side of the brain, with language in the left. The myth gained ground in the 1960s, when scientists studied epilepsy patients who had surgery to sever the connection between the two hemispheres. These researchers showed that when they couldn't communicate, the two sides of the brain could be unaware of one another—and even respond differently to stimuli. For example, when one patient was asked what he wanted to do, his left brain responded with "draftsman" but his right brain with "automobile racer."
    But more recently, brain scan technology has revealed that the hemispheres' roles are not quite so cut-and-dried as once thought. The two hemispheres are in fact highly complementary. For example, language processing, once believed to be left- hemisphere-only, is now understood to take place in both hemispheres: the left side processes grammar and pronunciation while the right processes intonation. Similarly, experiments have shown that the right hemisphere does not work in isolation with regard to spatial ability: the right hemisphere seems to deal with a general sense of space, while the left hemisphere deals with objects in specific locations.
    Having said all this is still remains true that the left side of the brain controls the rights side of the body and visa versa.

    so yea. while right/left brained were 'well established fact' back when we knew almost nothing the more we learn the more that this 'fact' is dissaproved. like 'we only used 10% of our brain' is complete horse sh1t aswell. Is interesting topic.
    1. nanobots that maintain your brain so you don't need to be downloaded for the massive distances
    First problem is that you have to be 'uploaded' first. How do you propose that we do this when memories are not stored in a particular part of the brain. Like Colmustard said Holographic is a current theory on that would shed some light on the issue but if it turns out to be true then i dont see how it is even remotly possilbe to do upload/download anything.

    Linky <-- this goes into the universe as a holographic reality. Is a little mad but makes good points. Explains the theory of holographic memories or whatever before it gets too mad

    Also what the hell are these nanobots that people keep talking about?
    2. you could attach computers on to your brain that could facilitate sharing the work between the normal brain and your own (you'd also to have a copy of both memories in your artificial parts so that you don't lose them) - as parts of your biological brain shuts down the artificial one would start taking more of the workforce until you're comlpletely digitized = you've now escaped death and can go digitally where you want yay
    I think that you have gone crazy my friend. How a computer and your brain work are completly different. So how do you attach a computer to your brain and share data between the two in any meaningfull way?
    Again the memories being backed up or whatever. how would this be done bearing in mind what i said above.

    Even if this was 100% right and we could do it today if we wanted there is majour moral/spirtual/philosical questions that must be asked.
    Not least is what would you do? you are now in essance a computer with full axcess to everything. you phisical body has died so there is no need to eat and drink and have sex and work. what would you do.
    Actully would it even be possible for you to experience emotion when this 'switch over' happens. I dout it. so whatever you do decided to do you would feel no pleasure from it

    I would rather take my chance at death/reincarnation/whatever the **** happens when we die.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,763 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Thought there was some work being done on organic computers. Who knows where that ends up,given time it may even be faster,stronger and smarter than a human brain.


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