Google maps Issue

Jhcx

Just got a bit of a shock. Looking at Google maps on my phone and i saw i was in this wired location so i change the texture to satellite and it turns out to be my house. Suddenly over night our land now has the white road trails that Google put on to show there is a road there. What i want to know how can i contact Google to get these markings removed. The land is private and i dont see any of my neighbors with these markings going into their drive showing where someone can go. Plus we dont have any official permanent tracks as the way the map is showing. there all temp jobs.

The road with the marking private land is my place which shouldn't be there at all. Last thing we need is tom, dick and harry turning up cause their satnav told them this was a road.

Jarren

http://support.google.com/maps/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=162873

JayReale

Just build a toll booth and you'll be sorted...

n97 mini

It looks like a cul de sac. What satnav is going to send people up there?

(Google maps latest iteration has obviously been done using aerial photography, just like OSI's)

EDIT: I checked out the "online radio" in your sig. Doesn't seem to be any "chooooons" on it, new or old.

bk

Google updated their maps for Ireland yesterday.

Some really nice changes, finally my apartment building is marked on it.

Hopefully they will have cycling and transport (RTPI) directions soon.

Victor

What about the people that need to go to your premises?

Jhcx

n97 mini wrote: »

It looks like a cul de sac. What satnav is going to send people up there?

(Google maps latest iteration has obviously been done using aerial photography, just like OSI's)

EDIT: I checked out the "online radio" in your sig. Doesn't seem to be any "chooooons" on it, new or old.

Victor wrote: »

What about the people that need to go to your premises?

Its not a cul de sac its 2 houses and a shed. like what makes kinda bad is that they skipped the actual driveway and made a new one that can be taken away in the morning. i.e no tarmac.

Nobody should need to go on the premises. As for deliveries we meet them at the bottom of the hill. not enough room to turn in the yard. Its on a main road and there's not that many houses. I've seen they done it for another neighbour which is only his drive but to be fair it does look like a road so long. I dont see why they have started marking out ppls land like that only for im on maps everyday would have missed it

bk

Jhcx wrote: »

I dont see why they have started marking out ppls land like that only for im on maps everyday would have missed it

It is just an honest mistake. They create the maps using aerial photos and GPS enabled vehicles. It is never going to be 100%

Also check openstreetmaps they also get data from there.

corktina

bk wrote: »

Google updated their maps for Ireland yesterday.

Some really nice changes, finally my apartment building is marked on it.

Hopefully they will have cycling and transport (RTPI) directions soon.

just checked my locality and they have updated showing several private roads and also have added house names on our road, which was a surprise.

monument

What's the issue exactly?

markpb

bk wrote: »

Google updated their maps for Ireland yesterday.

They've also added all the road names in Irish as well as English which is nice (but it would be nicer if you could choose to turn it off) as well as the exact location of the Luas lines instead of just the stops. (Though somehow the trams are meant to teleport from Sandyford to the new extension and they only go as far as Peters place before petering out )

Alun

markpb wrote: »

They've also added all the road names in Irish as well as English which is nice (but it would be nicer if you could choose to turn it off) as well as the exact location of the Luas lines instead of just the stops.

Also if you zoom in far enough they seem to have the names of all houses that have them, I have no idea where they would have got those from. Looks a bit muddled when you zoom in on some of the more 'affluent' areas where this is the norm.

Using traces from aerial imagery should mean that the small back roads in rural Wicklow where I travel a lot actually correspond accurately to what's on the ground now, which is great. However it only seems to be true for some roads, and others are still offset quite a bit away from the satellite imagery.

Alun

One rather annoying side effect is that when you drag the little Streetview pegman to the map it highlights the old road traces .. very offputting in those areas where the old roads were but a vague approximation to the real situation on the ground.

Colm R

I'm not exactly over the moon about this. My newly purchased house had a name which I have no intention of continuing to use, and its listed.

The name has not been visible on the road for a very long time, so I have no idea how they got the information. I reported through the Google maps, but now I fear Google knows where I live.

Whats next - my email address / name will appear near my house, probably with my facebook updates!!!

ArmaniJeanss

monument wrote: »

What's the issue exactly?

It's a local road, for local people.

bk

Colm R wrote: »

I'm not exactly over the moon about this. My newly purchased house had a name which I have no intention of continuing to use, and its listed.

It is public information, can be found in the An Post database.

It is supposed to publicly identify your home so people can find it, send mail to it.

Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it any less valid. It is supposed to be a utility to enable services, not a prestige thing.

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

It's a local road, for local people.

Well is it a public road or a private road?

If public then of course it should be included. If private I think it should still be included, but marked as such.

FFS people this is a map. It is supposed to accurately represent what is on the ground.

Alun

bk wrote: »

If public then of course it should be included. If private I think it should still be included, but marked as such.

They do appear in a different colour, i.e. grey as opposed to white.

On the house name thing, it possibly should only appear at much higher zoom levels than it currently does. As it stands it makes the map look a bit cluttered, esp. in areas where practically every house is named.

Ludo

They have FINALLY updated the map to show that a walking path in Cork is not a road. Damn directions from Rochestown to Blackrock in Cork have said to drive along the walking path for years. I reported it about 3 years ago and taken until now to update.

28064212

Are they also marked here OP? - http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/

Jhcx

monument wrote: »

What's the issue exactly?

bk wrote: »

Well is it a public road or a private road?

If public then of course it should be included. If private I think it should still be included, but marked as such.

FFS people this is a map. It is supposed to accurately represent what is on the ground.

The Issue is Google have made roads for ppl to see that dont exist formally.
Private driveway to a private dwelling on private land. Google cant possibly know what is happening on our land when they arent on it. Plus being private should get land owners premission.

bk

Jhcx wrote: »

The Issue is Google have made roads for ppl to see that dont exist formally.
Private driveway to a private dwelling on private land. Google cant possibly know what is happening on our land when they arent on it. Plus being private should get land owners premission.

It is a map, they aren't required to do so, just like the OSI aren't either.

Losty Dublin

Maybe I'm ignorant about cartography and mapmaking and that but surely if the road or landmark exist, it will be recorded as being there, private or public? It's not North Korea we are talking about, you can't exactly demand to have it erased from the map.

Mr Simpson

Alun wrote: »

On the house name thing, it possibly should only appear at much higher zoom levels than it currently does. As it stands it makes the map look a bit cluttered, esp. in areas where practically every house is named.

It's a brilliant feature, it may look a bit cluttered, but for somebody who does deliveries, it will be invaluable. I used it for the first time last night, it works rather well.

munchkin_utd

theres a far far bigger problem with google maps than your dead end road being on it that nobody would be taking anyway

Theres loads of towns now erased off the map at various zoom scales.

If you take west cavan/ east leitrim theres actually not so many large towns, so the ones that are there are your orientation point.
At a certain zoom level Killeshandra/ Ballyconnel/ Ballinamore/ Bawnboy/ Swanlinbar are missing.
Also small villages like Newton gore or Crossdoney which are important reference points with crossroads where regional roads divide are missing.

Basically between 70 odd kilometres between Cavan town and Carrick on Shannon is devoid of any towns and natural reference points.

There are places marked on the map, but these are mere townlands that wouldn't be signposted when you are at them let alone on a directional signpost.

Google has really gotten this update very wrong.

corktina

mmcn90 wrote: »

It's a brilliant feature, it may look a bit cluttered, but for somebody who does deliveries, it will be invaluable. I used it for the first time last night, it works rather well.

it rather makes Postcodes redundant does it not?

Mr Simpson

corktina wrote: »

it rather makes Postcodes redundant does it not?

I wouldnt say so, I'm in Dublin, so its only a minority of houses have names rather than numbers (still quite a few in Howth though) and even then Google is missing a lot of house names. I'd imagine in rural areas a postcode is still very necessary.

mackerski

bk wrote: »

Also check openstreetmaps they also get data from there.

No OpenStreetMap data in Google Maps - Google prefers to collect their own proprietary map data.

n97 mini

Jhcx wrote: »

The Issue is Google have made roads for ppl to see that dont exist formally.

Sounds a bit Area 51!

monument

The clutter is at an unread level on the northside of Dublin around the Mater, Grangegorman and the Cabra Road. Mainly zoomed out three times -- you should be able to see nearly all road names and main landmarks, but loads of house and building names are cluttering up the screen; it's even worse in hybrid view.

You can turn off labels but that will also knock off all road names too.

mmcn90 wrote: »

It's a brilliant feature, it may look a bit cluttered, but for somebody who does deliveries, it will be invaluable. I used it for the first time last night, it works rather well.

It's a about getting a balance and at least in the above mentioned area and zoom levels, it's not right.

Jhcx wrote: »

The Issue is Google have made roads for ppl to see that dont exist formally.
Private driveway to a private dwelling on private land. Google cant possibly know what is happening on our land when they arent on it. Plus being private should get land owners premission.

Private roads on private land to private dwelling have been marked on maps for years.

Nobody needs permission to photograph your house from the public road or from above, so there's no way anybody is going to need permission to draw a line on a map.

Jhcx

monument wrote: »

Private roads on private land to private dwelling have been marked on maps for years.

Nobody needs permission to photograph your house from the public road or from above, so there's no way anybody is going to need permission to draw a line on a map.

But this was done recently. Most of our family live on the land in their own houses. none of my neighbour have markings going around their houses why should ours.

Anyway its all sorted now.

corktina

mmcn90 wrote: »

I wouldnt say so, I'm in Dublin, so its only a minority of houses have names rather than numbers (still quite a few in Howth though) and even then Google is missing a lot of house names. I'd imagine in rural areas a postcode is still very necessary.

but your road name is all a satnav needs to pinpoint your road surely? House names do the same job out in the sticks as do the road numbers applied to every smallest boreen now. All a Courier needs to do now to find me is to put in my address not even including the Town name and Google Maps will show him exactly where I live.

mtjm

bk wrote: »

Google updated their maps for Ireland yesterday.

Some really nice changes, finally my apartment building is marked on it.

Hopefully they will have cycling and transport (RTPI) directions soon.

Did they update it? cause in the area where I live it's still 2 years old if not bit longer, only reason why I know this is new dart station was being build and the roof part is still on the ground beside it

corktina

the maps, not the photos

L1011

The new maps have house names on them - in estates. Where are they getting that data from?

I know its accurate as I can see names that I know exist, having a good laugh at some of the utterly ridiculous ones about though.

Louche Lad

Interesting! Our house is now named on Google Maps.

What's so interesting is that our house name is entirely unofficial — we made it up, put it on a plaque on the front, and sometimes quote it as part of our address. What might be the sources that Google are using?

Victor

Louche Lad wrote: »

Interesting! Our house is now named on Google Maps.

What's so interesting is that our house name is entirely unofficial — we made it up, put it on a plaque on the front, and sometimes quote it as part of our address. What might be the sources that Google are using?

Likely the An Post Geodirectory.

Louche Lad

Victor wrote: »

Likely the An Post Geodirectory.

Yes, that makes sense — our house as named is listed there. But...how did An Post know the name? Maybe they have a vast team of clerks transcribing details from addressed letters?

noelfirl

MYOB wrote: »

The new maps have house names on them - in estates. Where are they getting that data from?

I know its accurate as I can see names that I know exist, having a good laugh at some of the utterly ridiculous ones about though.

Panning around south-east Dublin is like looking through some sort of absurd pretentious book of nouns. I have to say I'd prefer if this somewhat peacock like behaviour wasn't played into by Google (and other mapping companies), not least because it clutters the map to hell.

Victor

Louche Lad wrote: »

Yes, that makes sense — our house as named is listed there. But...how did An Post know the name? Maybe they have a vast team of clerks transcribing details from addressed letters?

They have computers these days.

Every variant of an address is linked to a unique number, which in turn is linked to a specific location.

Any time a new address is found, it gets linked to that number.