General Practitioner experiences

humbert

looking_around wrote: »

Oh thanks for that.

I'm on med. card. I can barely scrape up the charge for all my meds. I have to see my doctor pretty frequently. I don't just go "ah well, I have an hour to waste, lets go visit the gp...."

fcuk sake stop trying to charge us for everything, things really are hard enough atm. :mad:

I'm very poor so nobody should have to pay anything isn't exactly a cogent counterargument.

Gael23

therealme wrote: »

My g.p. is great. He knows I only go when genuinely sick & is always ready to refer or help, always asks about my work and industry I'm in and asks me "how I am" as well as asking what he can do for me. He always says to ring for a prescription to be faxed - no need to call in and pay for it! I have never felt like I am just a number at the practice.
I feel like unlike any other g.p. I have attended, he is genuine and cares for his patients.
I never begrudge him the €60 and hope he is my g.p. for many years.

Feel like this too, even though he does ask to see me every few months I don't mind because to me that shows he cares.

Friend Computer

humbert wrote: »

I'm very poor so nobody should have to pay anything isn't exactly a cogent counterargument.

Probably because they didn't actually say that.

medicine12345

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Really? sigh.... :rolleyes:

Like I said, luckily I very rarely go to the GP's & when I do its essentially getting a perscription. Not a consultation at all really. The GP is the 60 euro middleman(or woman) who greets you before you get to the perscription.

Well yes, it was you that suggested it, you said they get megabucks for diagnosing sniffles and coughs, what are you basing that on if not your own experience....

Tail Docker

Sykk wrote: »

My latest experience with a new doctor I wanted to try out was Thursday.

I went to get my ear syringed as apparently I have a natural buildup of ear-wax that I can't clean myself. I had to get this done before. The doctor insisted "Take these drops, have a shower and sher it'll come out itself".

Here I sit, four days later with a massive ear ache, headache and deaf in my right ear.

My sister got her bloods taken by another GP closer to home, he bagged the blood, handed it to her and told her to drop it into Mullingar hospital whenever she was driving by :pac:

I have so many stories of neglect from these money making scammers it's just unreal. I've never been seriously ill, thank God. But I hope hospital doctors are better than these other people.

I'm sure there are some that actually care about their patients but I'm yet to meet one. My experiences so far have been that they're too busy making €60 a pop that they want you out as soon as you've walked in so they can move onto the next person.

Most mechanics I deal with are utter muppets, I regard Doctors as being people mechanics.

fonecrusher1

medicine12345 wrote: »

Well yes, it was you that suggested it,

:pac:

Show me where I said I go to GP's for sniffles and coughs?

medicine12345

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

the fcuk are you on about???.....

Megabuck salaries for diagnosing sniffles and coughs at 60 euro a pop.

QUOTE]

Here you go, perhaps you are not talking about your own experience here, perhaps you are just making it up then in order to jump on the band-wagon of GP-bashing

fonecrusher1

medicine12345 wrote: »

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

the fcuk are you on about???.....

Megabuck salaries for diagnosing sniffles and coughs at 60 euro a pop.

QUOTE]

Here you go, perhaps you are not talking about your own experience here, perhaps you are just making it up then in order to jump on the band-wagon of GP-bashing

Do you seriously think Im going to divulge every and any experience I had with GP's with you? For what? I don't care what you think. I think their overpaid and they rip people off. Whats your experience?

medicine12345

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

medicine12345 wrote: »

Do you seriously think Im going to divulge every and any experience I had with GP's with you? For what? I don't care what you think. I think their overpaid and they rip people off. Whats your experience?

I couldn't care less what your experiences have been. The point was that you were claiming that GPs make 'mega-bucks' from diagnosing coughs and sniffles, which isn't true.

fonecrusher1

medicine12345 wrote: »

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

The point was that you were claiming that GPs make 'mega-bucks' from diagnosing coughs and sniffles, which isn't true.

Why is it not true? Ive not met too many poor GP's. Have you? Do you know GP's who refuse to see people with coughs and colds?

Smidge

My GP is a bit of a basket case(so not joking)so I prefer to the locum!
On topic re GP experiences, I had bad news about a friend of mine today. Serious oversights on behalf of both GP and other Dr's that they have seen over the years(long standing issue that has been practically ignored)has now left my friend with irreparable brain damage.

Gongoozler

Smidge wrote: »

My GP is a bit of a basket case(so not joking)so I prefer to the locum!
On topic re GP experiences, I had bad news about a friend of mine today. Serious oversights on behalf of both GP and other Dr's that they have seen over the years(long standing issue that has been practically ignored)has now left my friend with irreparable brain damage.

If you feel it was the fault of the gp why not report him?

Gael23

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

medicine12345 wrote: »

Why is it not true? Ive not met too many poor GP's. Have you? Do you know GP's who refuse to see people with coughs and colds?

Its not true because there are many people out there who like me, have conditions that require lifelong management rather than cure.
My condition will never go away, but by working closely with my GP and a specialist as required the symptoms can be eased dramatically. Yes they are paid well but only after 10 years of training and they do work fairly long days in most cases/

IvyTheTerrible

I have a very good gp. Listens and gives good advice. He's interested in mental health, even when you go in for something else. Also, if he recommends a specialist, you know they'll be good.

Here it's 23 euro to see the doctor, and 18 euro is reimbursed by the social security system.

Geuze

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

I have a very good gp. Listens and gives good advice. He's interested in mental health, even when you go in for something else. Also, if he recommends a specialist, you know they'll be good.

Here it's 23 euro to see the doctor, and 18 euro is reimbursed by the social security system.

Can anybody explain how French GPs can make a living charging 23, while the fee in Ireland is typically 50?

I accept that GPs make less on med card patients, as they receive a fixed annual fee of about 150.??

I also accept that repeat consultations are often less than 50.

But still, the gap between 23 and 50 is huge.

And bear in mind that France is not a cheap country otherwise.

IvyTheTerrible

Geuze wrote: »

Can anybody explain how French GPs can make a living charging 23, while the fee in Ireland is typically 50?

I accept that GPs make less on med card patients, as they receive a fixed annual fee of about 150.??

I also accept that repeat consultations are often less than 50.

But still, the gap between 23 and 50 is huge.

And bear in mind that France is not a cheap country otherwise.

Well my uncle-in-law is a gp over here, and he lives very well by French standards. He works long hours though.
(Of course, you get the greedy guys charging what are called "Depassements d'honoraires", so, say in parts of Paris it's a good bit dearer, and specialists can be expensive).

ss88

Luke92 wrote: »

Leonard's corner. Dr Michael Burnell.

Thanks for the info! Actually I am registered with him and am trying to escape him altogether.
I'd like to ask if anybody has a good experience with your GP and lives around the Harold's cross area/ Rathmines could you just write his name down please ?
I'd really appreciate it !!

ShiftStorm

It really is a shame that there isn't a 'Rate your GP' forum or website. It has been suggested before but there could be all sorts of legal issues with cases of libel etc. It really would make things so much simpler!

myshirt

Ireland's claim and entitlement culture has a big role to play also. As does the legal system in shutting out those exploiting nuisance value.

The price of professional indemnity insurance is a large cost of a GP practice.

Gallowglass

They seem a bit disinterested in their jobs, my recent visit consisted of me explaining what my problem was about as he didn't know anything about it, I knew more about it from my brief time researching it online, they are a bundle of crooks i think. In N.Ireland you don't have to pay money to see these crooks anyway.
I wouldn't mind bending the receptionists over the table though.

Merkin

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

medicine12345 wrote: »

Do you seriously think Im going to divulge every and any experience I had with GP's with you? For what? I don't care what you think. I think their overpaid and they rip people off. Whats your experience?

Maybe you should go back to your GP fonecrusher1 and ask them to have a look at the gargantuan chip on your shoulder

medicine12345

Gallowglass wrote: »

They seem a bit disinterested in their jobs, my recent visit consisted of me explaining what my problem was about as he didn't know anything about it, I knew more about it from my brief time researching it online, they are a bundle of crooks i think. In N.Ireland you don't have to pay money to see these crooks anyway.
I wouldn't mind bending the receptionists over the table though.

Lol thats great the GPs in N.I must be really nice to work for free.. Who do you think pays them?? You! through your taxes, in fact if you're a young healthy person you;re probably being ripped off if you dont go very often. 'don't have to pay money to see them' haha get real.

Gallowglass

medicine12345 wrote: »

Lol thats great the GPs in N.I must be really nice to work for free.. Who do you think pays them?? You! through your taxes, in fact if you're a young healthy person you;re probably being ripped off if you dont go very often. 'don't have to pay money to see them' haha get real.

it's not noticeable money so it isn't, if we did have to pay the same money would be taken from taxes for something else anyway,
You're an awful cranky scroat today aren't you?

medicine12345

Geuze wrote: »

Can anybody explain how French GPs can make a living charging 23, while the fee in Ireland is typically 50?

I accept that GPs make less on med card patients, as they receive a fixed annual fee of about 150.??

I also accept that repeat consultations are often less than 50.

But still, the gap between 23 and 50 is huge.

And bear in mind that France is not a cheap country otherwise.

o come on do you really think its that simple and you're comparing like for like 23vs50 irelandvs france. In ireland we have a system where over 50% of people have medical cards and can visit the GP as many times as they like. The GP gets a fixed sum per patient per year, which can be as little as 60euro, and they can attend every week if they want to. Therefore the private patients are charged 50euro or whatever to subsidise the public patients which sucks as you can be just above the threshold for a medical card and then not be able to afford a visit. However with increasing cuts in payments to GPs from the government and increasing medical cards being issued due to increasing unemployment, etc, this may unfortunately get worse. Its hardly the GPs' fault, the system is terrible here. When was the last time you went to the GP and he/she was French? Surely they would flock here if they were paid over twice as much here??

RoboRat

Reality_Check1 wrote: »

there's no such thing as a repeat prescription for antibiotics maybe you're confused? There are a multitude of good reasons why you need to see a GP before some medications are renewed. Also when given the choice of going to see a GP or looking for random advice online I know what I prefer........

I'm not on repeat prescriptions for antibiotics, its for something entirely separate.

I do have an issue with my old GP only giving a cure for repeated bouts of sinusitis and not finding out what the problem was and hence having to spend 2,500 on such.

I ended up finding something which seems to be working through investigation.

Shane-KornSpace

The Mrs got her bloods taken a couple of weeks ago. She paid 20 euro and had to drop it to Portlaoise hospital herself!

Also
My mother slipped off a step and hurt her shoulder. She was convinced she had broken her collar bone. Doctors in A&E said she was fine.
A month later her GP told her it was deformed and that it healed out of place. She had indeed broken it before.

medicine12345

medicine12345 wrote: »

When was the last time you went to the GP and he/she was French? Surely they would flock here if they were paid over twice as much here??

My regular one is french...

pookie82

ss88 wrote: »

Hello,
I know this discussion is a bit out of date, but never hurts to ask .
I've been looking at a way to find a good GP. Can't seem to find a page "like rate my GP".
I was wondering if anybody knows any good GPs in Dublin 6/8 , around Harold's cross/ Rathmines.
What I mean by good is: having some experience and preferably not very judgmental.

thanks a bunch !

Hey, I've been going to the surgery at 104 on the Lower Rathmines Rd for the past year or so. It's a walk in clinic with good hours, so that's a bonus for starters, although if you can't get there for when it opens, there can be long queues.

It's quite an odd little setup but once you get past that, the two GPs who attend surgery hours there are great. There's no receptionist in place, which always struck me as strange, but if they ever need to leave out a prescription for you to collect at a later date they will just leave it addressed to you in the waiting room for collection during opening hours.

When you call for results the doctors themselves always answer the phone, and if they can't get back to you there and then they're great about calling you later that day.

Both GPs are lovely and helpful, not at all judgmental, spend all the time you need with you, and are willing to send you for further tests if they can't get to the bottom of a problem. One of them in particular has sent me a few times for tests that have thankfully turned out to be needless, but it goes to show they don't fob you off ... if they're in any doubt, they'll send you to the right place, and give you good advice to boot on what times for different clinics would be best.

You should try them. Don't let the lack of a secretary put you off, I've never had any issues because of it!

Oh and ps, they only take cash, so make sure you don't go with just a card... a slight annoyance but no major hassle! As far as I can remember it's €60 a pop and you just pay the doctor at the end of the consultation... it's not a very "formal" set up but because they're both good doctors it doesn't put me off!

Gongoozler

They don't take cards? Sounds dodgy.

Smidge

Gongoozler wrote: »

If you feel it was the fault of the gp why not report him?

Hoe did I know it would be you to quote me?
If you had read my post carefully, it's not me but a friend of mine.
Why would I report the GP? :rolleyes: