Pissed of with internet,Google, Microsoft, Paypal and the rest of it........

the watchman

I'm bloody fed up with the way the www and the companies which seem to control it are now are behaving.

About 13 years ago I marvelled at this new internet thing and the freedoms and possibilities it might bring. I even created my Hotmail account at the time even though I didn't have a computer.

About 7 years ago I got my first computer and ISP. I remember my first on-line transaction, my car licence. Using my Lazer to pay and the Tax Disc arriving on my hall floor a couple of days later. I was smitten. I then put what seemed like my whole life on line. I loved the anonymity and the ease of use with the basic security measures the companies used. I shouted from the rooftops that everyone should get on-line and transform their lives, but now here I am at this hour typing this s-h-i-t which is keeping me awake.............

It seems everything has now got so bloody over complicated. The on-line industry keeps spouting rubbish on so called 'privacy' issues- they don't bloody know what the meaning of the word is anymore.

That Hotmail account I mentioned earier. Microsoft are asking me all sorts of extra 'personal info' and unless I give it are trying to keep me from my emails ( i found away to dance around it and get in...for now). Did you know that to create a new Hotmail account they want your private home address..what in Gods name is that all about. Theres absolutely no bloody need for it.... I just de- registered all my ebilling for my utillities in case I do get locked out. I'm going back to paper!

Paypal won't let me top up my account now without me having to link my private bank account to my paypal account...again theres no bloody need to (go read some of the horror stories with those that have). why don't they make it optional, options are nice and friendly. I will not do it. It's been working very well for 4 years without that. So now no ebay for me and many other sites I used to purchase from. Their power is awsome.

It seems to me that the internet has now matured with 3/4 major players Microsoft, Google and the like. And that they seem to have carved up the market place for themselves. Now that they've got us they are 'locking us down and in' so to speak, insisting on and gathering more and more irrelevant personal information on us. And there seems no effective regulation watching them, Monopolies seem to be able to now thrive on the internet with no monitering or laws to protect us the customers. Its their way or no way now...not the freedom of 'your way' which the internet was once about!.

And the phenomenal rate of change with site layouts and usage etc is doing our heads in. What these 20-45 year old whiz kids running these companies are foregtting is that their customers are getting older and older and we oldies simply cannot keep up (we spend more time trying to understand changes on sites that we use regularly than doing what we want to do on them lol) and the greedy uncaring Global companies might one day get bitten when the oldies or others that have just had enough stop using the them.

The internet companies seem to be giving us more headaches and problems than the malicious hackers and spammers ever did.

Its got to the stage where I feel sick coming to my computer to do stuff now where it was once an absolute joy.

My windows XP computer is coming to the end of its life span...you know what I might just dump it and not get a new one.
I am so pissed off with it all.........feck em.:mad:

Jesus Wept

I think it's pretty mad that anyone uses hotmail as their primary email...
I mean, not totally mad like a double rainbow but mad like seeing a nun wearing runners.

i am not reading all that

EdanHewittt

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EdanHewittt

the watchman wrote: »

I'm bloody fed up with the way the www and the companies which seem to control it are now are behaving.

About 13 years ago I marvelled at this new internet thing and the freedoms and possibilities it might bring. I even created my Hotmail account at the time even though I didn't have a computer.

About 7 years ago I got my first computer and ISP. I remember my first on-line transaction, my car licence. Using my Lazer to pay and the Tax Disc arriving on my hall floor a couple of days later. I was smitten. I then put what seemed like my whole life on line. I loved the anonymity and the ease of use with the basic security measures the companies used. I shouted from the rooftops that everyone should get on-line and transform their lives, but now here I am at this hour typing this s-h-i-t which is keeping me awake.............

It seems everything has now got so bloody over complicated. The on-line industry keeps spouting rubbish on so called 'privacy' issues- they don't bloody know what the meaning of the word is anymore.

That Hotmail account I mentioned earier. Microsoft are asking me all sorts of extra 'personal info' and unless I give it are trying to keep me from my emails ( i found away to dance around it and get in...for now). Did you know that to create a new Hotmail account they want your private home address..what in Gods name is that all about. Theres absoluteluty no bloody need for it.... I just de- registered all my ebilling for my utillities in case I do get locked out. I'm going back to paper!

Paypal won't let me top up my account now without me having to link my private bank account to my paypal account...again theres no bloody need to (go read some of the horror stories with those that have). why don't they make it optional, options are nice and friendly. I will not do it. It's been working very well for 4 years without that. So now no ebay for me and many other sites I used to purchase from. Their power is awsome.

It seems to me that the internet has now matured with 3/4 major players Microsoft, Google and the like. And that they seem to have carved up the market place for themselves. Now that they've got us they are 'locking us down and in' so to speak, insisting on and gathering more and more irrelevant personal information on us. And there seems no effective regulation watching them, Monopolies seem to be able to now thrive on the internet with no monitering or laws to protect us the customers. Its their way or no way now...not the freedom of 'your way' which the internet was once about!.

And the phenomenal rate of change with site layouts and usage etc is doing our heads in. What these 20-45 year old whiz kids running these companies are foregtting is that their customers are getting older and older and we oldies simply cannot keep up (we spend more time trying to understand changes on sites that we use regularly than doing what we want to do on them lol) and the greedy uncaring Global companies might one day get bitten when the oldies or others that have just had enough stop using the them.

Its got to the stage where I feel sick coming to my computer to do stuff now where it was once an absolute joy.

My windows XP computer is coming to the end of its life span...you know what I might just dump it and not get a new one.
I am so pissed off with it all.........feck em.:mad:

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To settle my throne as the Prince of Bel Air

http://i.imgur.com/NHCPB.png

EdanHewittt

Hotmail?

OP should probably read this:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address

Kylo Ren

Okay OP I'm going to be honest. There was no way I was reading all of that. I am going to assume the answer you're looking for is....ehm.....mayonnaise, yeah mayonnaise.

Canis Lupus

I still use hotmail as my primary account. Can someone enlighten me as to why hotmail is now crap?

Snowie

op bye an Apple

Xavi6

off*

Pushtrak

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I still use hotmail as my primary account. Can someone enlighten me as to why hotmail is now crap?

I'd say it might be on account of its spam filter which is fairly crap. Use Gmail as my primary now and love how much storage space it has, its spam filter, how you can send emails with bigger attachments.

hondasam

the watchman wrote: »

I am so pissed off with it all.........feck em.:mad:

I agree with you OP, too many questions asked these days it's like big brother now someone is always watching us.

murrayp4

tl:dr

smash

the watchman wrote: »

About 7 years ago I got my first computer and ISP.

7 year itch...

the watchman wrote: »

I remember my first on-line transaction, my car licence. Using my Lazer to pay and the Tax Disc arriving on my hall floor a couple of days later.

A tax disc is not a car license!

books4sale

AH, a new dawn, a new day. Let's see what the cat dragged in last night.....

NIce bit of ranting there OP

Gone to bed now I suppose, snoring your head off. Lay off the ritalin next time.

OU812

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I think it's pretty mad that anyone uses hotmail as their primary email...
I mean, not totally mad like a double rainbow but mad like seeing a nun wearing runners.

I've been using hotmail more & more these days. Some great new features like aliases & sweep up & 25gb skydive. On the verge of ditching gmail because I hate that interface

kneemos

Andy Carroll wrote: »

I think it's pretty mad that anyone uses hotmail as their primary email...
I mean, not totally mad like a double rainbow but mad like seeing a nun wearing runners.

Fairly subtle degrees of madness there Andy.

Setun

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I still use hotmail as my primary account. Can someone enlighten me as to why hotmail is now crap?

Hotmail accounts are the most frequently hacked/compromised accounts in my experience.

Gmail has gone the way of the OPs complaints also - about a year ago it forced me to use my 'real name' or I would be locked out of its services. Not long after, Google Plus came in. Hmmm...

As much as they like to show off these features as security/privacy/customisation features to benefit the user, it is essentially about locking down the user to one service. At the moment, Facebook are covertly creating a kind of 'passport' for the internet, a centralised identity with which you will have to have to sign into many other services across the web. At the moment, the 'sign in with Facebook' features are generally optional, but eventually you'll notice more services insist you have a facebook account to use them - Spotify for example.

ejmaztec

Whenever I see a hotmail email address I automatically think "scammer".

abouttobebanned

Why do people feel the need to post "too long. There's no way I'm reading all of that". If your time is so precious, why waste it further by clogging up the thread with your overt laziness or inability to read long pieces of literature.

Standard Toaster

Oceanfree.net email is where it's at jack.

Mr Benevolent

First world problems...

Canis Lupus

Well, I've been happily using Hotmail for... 10 years+ (despite getting a gmail acc when it first showed up it never really grew on me)

I've never been hacked (is that a hotmail fault or a user fault to suggest it's the most hacked?), up until a year ago I can't remember ever getting spam and whilst I get a few now (not sure what changed) they all go into junk without fail.

I've heard the snorty 'you still use hotmail' so much but I really don't get it. It has never let me down and is straightforward.

ejmaztec

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Oceanfree.net email is where it's at jack.

Spam central? Is Oceanfree still going?

Pushtrak

When Gmail started up, it offered a crazy amount of storage more than Hotmail provides. I'm not sure exactly what the gap is now. I know that Gmail is now up to 10 GB.

Edit: Impressive.

However, today in 2011 things are quite different; Hotmail now provides users with virtually unlimited storage for their emails and allows users to upload multiple attachments each up to 100MB. The site is now also 10 times faster than it was in 2006, this has been achieved through several different practices that I will talk about later. Hotmail is now very accessible on a wide range of mobile devices through any browser and also through native apps on all of the most popular mobile platforms.

listermint

smash wrote: »

7 year itch...



A tax disc is not a car license!

OP reeks of americanisms......

Wibbs

I don't like how google do business so avoid them as much as possible. Facebook I can't abide so avoid them too. Apple with every year are becoming more like the **** they used to be on a high horse about. Microsoft, once the boogyman are less so these days IMHO. I have my own email address.

Carter P Fly

Yep, I use a Hotmail and yahoo account, my sis has a rocketmail account, I also have an Indigo mail account and use IE and firefox every day.

Im old skool yea...

saiint

ironic that your fed up with the internet, and posting about it on an "internet" forum ha

Feathers

the watchman wrote: »

And there seems no effective regulation watching them, Monopolies seem to be able to now thrive on the internet with no monitering or laws to protect us the customers. Its their way or no way now...not the freedom of 'your way' which the internet was once about!.

Name one monopoly on the internet? - the only thing that's close is Spotify needing a FB login as one user mentioned, & though they look like they're making themselves more readily bought, they're not the only social music platform.

abouttobebanned wrote: »

inability to read long pieces of literature.

Literature might be pushing it a bit!

Mr Benevolent

I have my own email address.

Well la di da. I bet you've even got your own keyboard and everything.

TPD

EdanHewittt wrote: »

Hotmail?

OP should probably read this:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address

I use hotmail as my primary account, and I'm a software developer who has done web design. I also use two gmail accounts, and two custom domains. Hotmail hasn't pissed me off as much as it has everyone else, it would seem. I've only got about 10 spam emails through to my inbox in the 10 years I've had the account, as far as I can remember.

smash

TPD wrote: »

I use hotmail as my primary account, and I'm a software developer who has done web design. I also use two gmail accounts, and two custom domains.

So you subscribe to a lot of porn then? There is no other reason for this number of email addresses.

donalg1

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I still use hotmail as my primary account. Can someone enlighten me as to why hotmail is now crap?

My Dad's hotmail account was hacked, my sisters too and when they tried get it unlocked they were asked for a contact mobile number and when they put theirs in they were told that it couldnt be sent to this as it didnt recognise the number, think it was due to it not being from the US. So they have both changed to Gmail now, losing all of thier contacts and emails in Hotmail, to sit there forever.

Plus there is the fact that Gmail is just better.

28064212

tl;dr version: OP doesn't know how to use the internet

Feathers

Wibbs wrote: »

I have my own email address.

Doesn't everyone have their own email address :P

RobbieTheRobber

I get what your saying OP its;
Who watchs the watchers!

Right?

Pushtrak

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I get what your saying OP its;
Who watchs the watchers!

Right?

No, its who watches the ones who watch them.

Canis Lupus

donalg1 wrote: »

My Dad's hotmail account was hacked, my sisters too and when they tried get it unlocked they were asked for a contact mobile number and when they put theirs in they were told that it couldnt be sent to this as it didnt recognise the number, think it was due to it not being from the US. So they have both changed to Gmail now, losing all of thier contacts and emails in Hotmail, to sit there forever.

I don't believe for a second that that issue couldn't have been resolved given hotmail is available around the world.

donalg1 wrote: »

Plus there is the fact that Gmail is just better.

Ah well, some very well thought out reasons there..

So far from what I can see it seems that because hotmail is old and not made by google it's somehow inferior. *shrugs*

28064212

Canis Lupus wrote: »

So far from what I can see it seems that because hotmail is old and not made by google it's somehow inferior. *shrugs*

Lables, threaded conversations, integration with other Google products (Android, Google+, Google Talk, Google Voice etc.), better contact management, "preview" mode for attachments, Gmail Labs...

haminka

ok, so you had a bad day .... feeling better today? it's Friday 13 ...

28064212

haminka wrote: »

ok, so you had a bad day .... feeling better today? it's Friday 13 ...

They posted it today

prinz

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I get what your saying OP its;
Who watchs the watchers! Right?

Now you are freaking him out that someone is remotely accessing his webcam :pac:

Immaculate Pasta

Completely agree OP, that's why I don't use the internet. :cool:

Jester252

28064212 wrote: »

They posted it today

It the Friday the 13th curse

Cokeistan

Hotmail fo lyf

dsmythy

So I should get rid of my yahoo email address then? I've had it for 12 years, would be a shame

DonkeyStyle \o/

I give them a real-sounding fake name, wrong age and opposite gender.

lifelongnoob

the watchman wrote: »

That Hotmail account I mentioned earier. Microsoft are asking me all sorts of extra 'personal info' and unless I give it are trying to keep me from my emails ( i found away to dance around it and get in...for now). Did you know that to create a new Hotmail account they want your private home address..what in Gods name is that all about. Theres absolutely no bloody need for it.... I just de- registered all my ebilling for my utillities in case I do get locked out. I'm going back to paper!

Hotmail asks you for your phone number so that in the event your email is hacked and they try to reset your password you get sent a txt message on your phone notifying you.

the watchman wrote: »

Paypal won't let me top up my account now without me having to link my private bank account to my paypal account...again theres no bloody need to (go read some of the horror stories with those that have). why don't they make it optional, options are nice and friendly. I will not do it. It's been working very well for 4 years without that. So now no ebay for me and many other sites I used to purchase from. Their power is awsome.

i use an 02 prepay card to top up my paypal account...

the watchman wrote: »

And the phenomenal rate of change with site layouts and usage etc is doing our heads in. What these 20-45 year old whiz kids running these companies are foregtting is that their customers are getting older and older and we oldies simply cannot keep up (we spend more time trying to understand changes on sites that we use regularly than doing what we want to do on them lol) and the greedy uncaring Global companies might one day get bitten when the oldies or others that have just had enough stop using the them.

The internet companies seem to be giving us more headaches and problems than the malicious hackers and spammers ever did.

Its got to the stage where I feel sick coming to my computer to do stuff now where it was once an absolute joy.

My windows XP computer is coming to the end of its life span...you know what I might just dump it and not get a new one.
I am so pissed off with it all.........feck em:mad:.

boohoo you cant keep up with the changes on the internet so you use the internet to bitch n moan about it :rolleyes:

Sea Filly

abouttobebanned wrote: »

If your time is so precious, why waste it further by clogging up the thread with your overt laziness or inability to read long pieces of literature.

a) It's not literature
b) If a poster is articulate enough, the first few sentences will grab me and I will read the post. Not everyone has this skill and if they don't they shouldn't drone on

lifelongnoob

ejmaztec wrote: »

Whenever I see a hotmail email address I automatically think "scammer".

when i see any email address i dont know i think, scammer, or spammer these days.


mostly cos there is still too many idiots out there with unsecured, or out of date antivirus/malware software on their computers.