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Keep Calm And Discuss Retro Generally!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Got back from seeing The Hobbit, today. I really don't know why the critics tore this one a new one, but it seems like they're only ragging it for fickle reasons, like the framerate and extending the book into a trilogy. But so far, I haven't seen anything controversial come out of it, not compared to when Episode I released. I say bring on the extended release.

    And yes, I didn't see it in 48fps.

    This gem of a post in the film forum explains the phenomenon perfectly - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82324717&postcount=2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Rumours of my death have been greatly understated:D

    Whats up guys hope all is good.

    Week of exams over and although i passed im really beginning to hate cisco equipment


    Been so busy i havent even had time to play Boulder Dash:mad:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,754 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Moviebob on The Escapist has a good review of the Hobbit, where he discusses it's flaws but maintains it's a great movie anyways, maybe not the perfection it could have been but, so what?
    Hobbit Review, with an added measure of common sense

    Actually, when I heard they were taking a two picture deal and making a trilogy my mind went straight the to the Unfinished Tales and the History of Middle Earth series that Christopher Tolkien was involved with, it was obvious they weren't just going to make sh1t up to pad out the films so the material is canon, grown up, stuff that perhaps wasn't suitable in tone for a children's book, but suits this format just fine.
    Not to mention gives even an old fan of the Hobbit, like me, something new to look forward to.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,607 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Nope, I can't agree The Hobbit is great in spite of its flaws (here's my review rather than regurgitate everything I've already written: http://filmireland.net/2012/12/12/cinema-review-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey/). Fair enough, plenty liked it and I respect that, but I personally thought it was a full-on letdown. I definitely think my experience was damaged by the HFR presentation, but the film has Peter Jackson self-indulging to absolutely obscene degrees. There is no doubt around sixty or even more minutes of great material in there, but the other 90 makes the whole thing a chore. And I say this as someone who thinks the Lord of the Rings stand proudly as definitive examples of fantasy spectacle done right. Studio greed and Jacksons misjudged sense of pace ensure it's a worse film than it should have been in a one or even two film form, and that to me is really frustrating. Can't imagine a film with as many 'should have been deleted' scenes will benefit from more footage on Blu-Ray.

    Still better than The Lovely Bones though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,754 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    We are probably seeing what was to form the extended editions of a two movie series, the studio saw dollar signs and built a trilogy instead.
    I'm seeing the 48fps version tonight, I'll form my opinion then proper, instead of repeating some talk back forum somewhere.
    Those lousers killed John Carter!

    Oh, Dredd is out on Blu in a few days, isn't it?
    Awesome!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    There is going to be extended editions of course. About 20 extra minutes for the first one.

    I enjoyed it anyway. I wouldn't be a huge fan of the LOTR films, I only really liked the first one, so I was never going to feel let down by The Hobbit.

    You probably need to think of it as less of a movie and more of watching 6 episodes of a TV series back to back.

    I stuck with regular 2D as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Oh, Dredd is out on Blu in a few days, isn't it?
    Awesome!

    I cannot feckin wait! Really really want to watch that again. I even went so far as to download a dodgy pirate cam version (haven't watched one of them in years) but had to switch it off after 20 seconds as the quality was so bad.

    Dependent on price, I may by a couple just to support the project. Really want to see a sequel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I cannot feckin wait! Really really want to watch that again. I even went so far as to download a dodgy pirate cam version (haven't watched one of them in years) but had to switch it off after 20 seconds as the quality was so bad.

    Dependent on price, I may by a couple just to support the project. Really want to see a sequel.

    BUY ALL THE DREDDS!!!!

    I really really want a sequel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,622 ✭✭✭✭OwaynOTT


    BUY ALL THE DREDDS!!!!

    I really really want a sequel

    Any word on a possible sequel?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,754 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Unless dvd, blu and vod demand is enormous then we are unlikely to see any more, which is a great pity.
    As much as I thoroughly enjoyed Dress I can't help but feel they aimed quite own with the first, perhaps only, one.
    Of all the stories they could have made a little slice of Bloc War seems a tad underwhelming.
    But then there are budget restraints.
    Me, I need a Nemesis film, perhaps some ABC Warriors later, culminating in the crossover Time Waste tales later on, I can dream, can't I?
    Why stop there?
    Strontium Dog, Bad Company, Armoured Gideon, Halo Jones?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Anyone playing Gunman Clive on the 3DS? It's only 2 euro, definitely pick it up. Looks really lovely and plays like an 8 bit Sunset Riders.

    Actually, hints of Megaman to this one too.

    Just powered up & updated yee olde 3DS there to have a look. Well worth a punt at €1.99 man cheers.

    Just seen I have Minish Cap & a load of other games still unwrapped on the main screen. Score!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Just powered up & updated yee olde 3DS there to have a look. Well worth a punt at €1.99 man cheers.

    Just seen I have Minish Cap & a load of other games still unwrapped on the main screen. Score!

    It's such a cool little game! I'm well impressed with the art style of it. €1.99 is crazy cheep when compared with the usual price of 3DS online store games.

    Just powered up one of the girlfriends Christmas gifts, a 64Gb Blackberry Playbook. There's red stuck pixel to the right/middle of the screen. I'm really REALLY pissed off. It stands out like you wouldnt believe on a black screen. But once the unit powers up properly, you can't see it.

    Not sure what to do. Think I'll wait until Christmas and see what the missus thinks. Still, really annoying to start it with 'here's your Christmas present! like it? Well there's a problem with the screen. You'll see it as soon as you press the on button :mad:'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DinoRex


    Oh... contest where if you win you get to meet SWERY:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    I have a famicom so yis are all homos!!! Also I'm in work at 7.45 this will be fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    Apart from just buying a Pokemon 3ds XL for the craic while drunk I also earlier just spent €17 on body spray in holliser and €30 on a top. I'm ****ing minted!!!!

    I also applied for a credit card the other day. Oh dear.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,754 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Went to see The Hobbit last night on the mini Imax on Parnell St, not good...
    The first hour was migraine inducing but, akin to the good folk of The Emperor's New Clothes, no one complained for an hour fearing that there was nothing wrong with the screen but rather we just didn't get 3d at 48fps.
    Turns out something was amiss and an hour in they paused the movie, apologised and restarted the previous minute and a half, everything now snapping into the correct perspective.
    Even so, didn't enjoy 48fps at all, did make it all feel like a tv show and, coupled with some lousy sfx, a syfy tv show at that.
    Might see it again in the new year at a more sedate 24fps, in 2d!
    But Gollum was incredible, I can see them going all Lucas on the Lord of the Rings films and bring their representation of Gollum up to the same standard.
    The insistence on messing with the original story was done with uneven results, it was good to get some background to the rise of dark forces but messing with the encounter with trolls was unspeakable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    Listening to Sunday Miscellany on Rte radio 1 at the moment


    And people thought Vogon poetry was bad:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43


    WARNING RE: "EBAY"

    If you buy stuff on line, check out the seller carefully.
    Be careful what you purchase on eBay.

    A friend spent $50 on a penis enlarger.
    Bastards sent him a magnifying glass.

    Instructions said, "Do not use in direct sunlight."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Went to see The Hobbit last night on the mini Imax on Parnell St, not good...
    The first hour was migraine inducing but, akin to the good folk of The Emperor's New Clothes, no one complained for an hour fearing that there was nothing wrong with the screen but rather we just didn't get 3d at 48fps.
    Turns out something was amiss and an hour in they paused the movie, apologised and restarted the previous minute and a half, everything now snapping into the correct perspective.
    Even so, didn't enjoy 48fps at all, did make it all feel like a tv show and, coupled with some lousy sfx, a syfy tv show at that.
    Might see it again in the new year at a more sedate 24fps, in 2d!
    But Gollum was incredible, I can see them going all Lucas on the Lord of the Rings films and bring their representation of Gollum up to the same standard.
    The insistence on messing with the original story was done with uneven results, it was good to get some background to the rise of dark forces but messing with the encounter with trolls was unspeakable.
    I'd rather they just update Gollum's model in Fellowship. And I guess change the bit where Bilbo finds the ring for consistency, but just for the Extended Edition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭pdbhp


    Well I watched Prometheus last night. Paper thin story line, some dodgy acting but all in all I really enjoyed it.
    Had a few beers and adult cigarettes so that probably helped.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    In start contrast, myself & the little fella watched Big Trouble in Little China last night...now thats how action/adventure movies should be made. Classic stuff :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭pdbhp


    Proper family Christmas movie Big Trouble in Little China along with Die Hard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    pdbhp wrote: »
    Proper family Christmas movie Big Trouble in Little China along with Die Hard.

    Definitely, so many ritual Xmas films to get through...so little time. Uncle Buck is up next then Planes, Trains & Automobiles...vintage John Candy :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭pdbhp


    I love Uncle Buck, I must watch it with with the little fella sometime over the holidays.
    Gonna watch twins later with the good ould Govenator himself. That'll festive me up a bit.

    Also a must watch is the brilliant Bad Santa..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭Sparks43




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,607 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Went to see The Hobbit last night on the mini Imax on Parnell St, not good...
    The first hour was migraine inducing but, akin to the good folk of The Emperor's New Clothes, no one complained for an hour fearing that there was nothing wrong with the screen but rather we just didn't get 3d at 48fps.
    Turns out something was amiss and an hour in they paused the movie, apologised and restarted the previous minute and a half, everything now snapping into the correct perspective.
    Even so, didn't enjoy 48fps at all, did make it all feel like a tv show and, coupled with some lousy sfx, a syfy tv show at that.
    Might see it again in the new year at a more sedate 24fps, in 2d!
    But Gollum was incredible, I can see them going all Lucas on the Lord of the Rings films and bring their representation of Gollum up to the same standard.
    The insistence on messing with the original story was done with uneven results, it was good to get some background to the rise of dark forces but messing with the encounter with trolls was unspeakable.

    Someone I fundamentally agree with concerning a blockbuster on the arcade & retro forum?

    What is this festive sorcery!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I've yet to see 48fps in the flesh, does it change the look of a film that much yeah? I thought is would be analogous to when 100Hz tv's came out, & everything just looked 'smoother' no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Decided to get some retro gaming in over xmas, and unbeknownst to me until now, ps3 joypads work with macs! no drivers or nothing just plug n play with the usb cable or over bluetooth. Couldnt find my old usb pc gamepad so did some googling, yay for snes and megadrive goodness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    krudler wrote: »
    Decided to get some retro gaming in over xmas, and unbeknownst to me until now, ps3 joypads work with macs! no drivers or nothing just plug n play with the usb cable or over bluetooth. Couldnt find my old usb pc gamepad so did some googling, yay for snes and megadrive goodness.

    welcometothepartypal.jpg


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,607 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yup, works indeed. You might need to download a key mapper though for a lot of stuff.


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