My3 PrePay for Android

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Something I threw together over the last few days. Not on the market yet as its probably unstable. GUI leaves a lot to be desired for. So for now a dropbox link, will upload it to the market in time.

Displays your My3 usage in an app. When you open app at first, you can enter your mobile number + password in settings for my3.three.ie. If you don't have an account, click refresh once, and an about dialog will show you last 6 digits of your SIM ICCID. This is needed to register with My3. This will save you having to rip out your battery to look at your SIM card!! (Why do 3 need this!)

Please note, https://my3.three.ie is AWFUL slow. I have included options to increase timeouts in settings if you are having problems.



http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14338572/My3.apk
Mobile friendly: http://db.tt/tJDycHwS

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Oops guess this should have went into the Android forum.

Cheapphones

Great Stuff!!

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I have put it on the Play Store now: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=damo.three.ie
Enjoy.

pigeon999

Thanks very much I truly appreciate this!

wba88

Downloaded, rated, +1'd, tweeted

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Cheers lads.

cgordonfreeman

Cool. Works well.

kilsmum

Thanks Damo - downloaded and working a treat

Kilsmum

BFassassin

Was wondering how I could do this. On my old phone bought from 3 there was a simple link. On this new one its a vodafone branded one so its not there.

Thanks for the app

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This has been updated to handle 3's new site:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=damo.three.ie

I think the site is slower than the last one (my3.three.ie) !

The back bones of the site are almost identical. Seems they just updated the web front end a bit. Changed theme of it to fit in with other areas of their websites.

I promise I will get around to making the GUI looking more modern in the app, and possibly add widget and interaction with Calendar to set reminders on internet expiration so your credit doesn't get destroyed.

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Started working on the UI part of this again. Hope to have something out soon..

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As accessing my3account.three.ie over GPRS coverage is painfully slow (The website itself is already slow, but GPRS coverage, at least for me is almost non functional), I'm planning to put a man in the middle relay/parser on my VPS as an alternative option for retrieving your account info. That way the VPS will do all the work for you. DO people feel comfortable with this ?
Direct access (the way it currently works) will still be available.

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Update rolling out now.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=damo.three.ie&hl=en

Hopefully its OK for everyone.

Tom Dunne

Looks great, Damo. Funnily enough, only yesterday I got me a Three SIM, so your timing couldn't be better. Using it on a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, without issues.

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Tom Dunne wrote: »

Looks great, Damo. Funnily enough, only yesterday I got me a Three SIM, so your timing couldn't be better. Using it on a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, without issues.

Cheers, thanks for the feedback.

Just hope they don't change the page layout anytime soon and break the app.
my3account.three.ie is really slow also :-(

Fresh Pots

Working well on my phone and tablet. Are we going to get notifications when the 30th day is approaching?

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TheTechGuy wrote: »

Working well on my phone and tablet. Are we going to get notifications when the 30th day is approaching?

Aww sorry I didn't get as far as implementing that yet.

I need to think about how to go about this. Like what should happen if the user tops up between the last refresh and before the add-on is to expire. Them items are queued, so there is no need for them to get a notification about the upcoming expire-able items. The app isn't aware you topped up/bought an add-on though, unless you refresh again.

I haven't though about periodic refreshing in the background yet.

Cale

I don't think there's any real need for a notification. The app displays your expiry date.

Looks good by the way.

marcbrophy

Just noticed the update Damo, nice job

No issues for me on a Nexus 4

TeddyTedson

What a great app Thank you.

Is there any reason why I'd buy an internet add on from three after topping up with 20e credit? They always try to sell a 500mb add on or something for 10e is it? Would a once off buy on this stop 3 from raping my credit after 30 days! :eek:

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TeddyTedson wrote: »

What a great app Thank you.

Is there any reason why I'd buy an internet add on from three after topping up with 20e credit? They always try to sell a 500mb add on or something for 10e is it? Would a once off buy on this stop 3 from raping my credit after 30 days! :eek:

Well after 30 days when your all-you-can-eat data expires, and you still have credit, you could buy a 500MB addon for €5.

My account doesn't get raped when my add on expires. My internet simply stops working. 3 enabled this on older accounts years ago. I had an option to disable out of bundle internet access. New-ish accounts don't have this option... So when your addons run out. €€€ for 3!!

grimm2005

Great app OP, thanks! been looking for something like this as the my3 website is just messy to use over the phone.

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grimm2005 wrote: »

Great app OP, thanks! been looking for something like this as the my3 website is just messy to use over the phone.

Their HTML source code is even messier!

aaronm13

Great app, thanks so much. A notification to say your data is about to expire would be great for forgetful people like me. I always end up getting screwed when this happens. Either way with this app its much much easier to be on top of your account.

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aaronm13 wrote: »

Great app, thanks so much. A notification to say your data is about to expire would be great for forgetful people like me. I always end up getting screwed when this happens. Either way with this app its much much easier to be on top of your account.

That's the next functionality on the TODO list!

Just for those that can't wait, set up a reminder every 30 days (or whenever you top up if you don't top up every 30 days) on Google Calendar to email or notify you when it's about to run out.

Great app by the way, use it all the time!

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Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote: »

That's the next functionality on the TODO list!

Excellent stuff. Great job again by the way.

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Open sourced it:

https://github.com/DamienOReilly/My3Usage

Please log any issues here:

https://github.com/DamienOReilly/My3Usage/issues

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Upcoming functionality for notification alerts of internet add-on expiring:
https://github.com/DamienOReilly/My3Usage/issues/2

wba88

Hey Damo2k,

Love the app, it's very handy to have so thanks for putting it together.

Great idea about the internet add-on expiration notification. Not sure if you meant this too but it would be cool if the app would notify you when your €20 credit 30days is up.

Also could you put a Total underneath the 'Won't expire' amounts I have a few lines of €20's there and just thought it would be nice or if possible just one line with the total amount of credit remaining.

Thanks and keep up the great work!

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wba88 wrote: »

Hey Damo2k,

Love the app, it's very handy to have so thanks for putting it together.

Great idea about the internet add-on expiration notification. Not sure if you meant this too but it would be cool if the app would notify you when your €20 credit 30days is up.

Also could you put a Total underneath the 'Won't expire' amounts I have a few lines of €20's there and just thought it would be nice or if possible just one line with the total amount of credit remaining.

Thanks and keep up the great work!

I can try that yeah.

Can you just take a snapshot of what its currently showing up as for you?

You can try power button + volume down to take a snapshot if your version of android supports it.

yllw.ldbttr

Something similar to this?

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Holy hell, how do you have so many top-ups?

Also when you top-up by €20, does it not queue the extra's it gives you? e.g. 3 to 3 calls, texts, etc..?

Can you manually log onto https://my3account.three.ie and see if I'm missing some of your usages?

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Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote: »

Holy hell, how do you have so many top-ups?

Also when you top-up by €20, does it not queue the extra's it gives you? e.g. 3 to 3 calls, texts, etc..?

Can you manually log onto https://my3account.three.ie and see if I'm missing some of your usages?

I top up €20 every 30 days which gives me the data package and covers all the calls and texts I ever use. The extras are not queued, they expire after 30 days but the credit is retained for usage.
I know I could just continue to buy the 5 euro 500 mb package but to be honest I use up to 1 GB most days so not worth the hassle.

I try to use the credit for Google Play apps etc but I can't burn it to be honest.

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Ah yeah, however if you topped up by two €20 in a row for some odd reason, it will queue the next set of usages until the current one expires.

Hmm, wba88, you want a total top-up amount like in yllw.ldbttr's pic above?

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Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote: »

Ah yeah, however if you topped up by two €20 in a row for some odd reason, it will queue the next set of usages until the current one expires.

Gotcha yeah, that's true, sorry, I was talking about a different circumstance.
Great app anyway. Cheers.

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yllw.ldbttr wrote: »

Gotcha yeah, that's true, sorry, I was talking about a different circumstance.
Great app anyway. Cheers.

Thanks!

wba88

Yeah what I was trying to get across is exactly what yllw.ldbttr was saying

Thanks yllw.ldbttr

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wba88 wrote: »

Yeah what I was trying to get across is exactly what yllw.ldbttr was saying

Thanks yllw.ldbttr

Do you only wanna see total, or do you wanna see all, with total underneath ?

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Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote: »

Do you only wanna see total, or do you wanna see all, with total underneath ?

To be honest I think just the total would be cleaner, instead of filling the screen with lines of €20.00

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Or have a total with an option of a drop down list to see every topup listed ?
If that could be done ?

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Great app!!

wba88

Just updated to the latest version, I really like the loading animation! Good job

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wba88 wrote: »

Just updated to the latest version, I really like the loading animation! Good job

Thanks. I fixed a few things under the hood, so hopefully I will start on new functionality now that the base is more stabilized.

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This application's name and logo's are in the process of been changed, due to discussions with Three. See below.

Application will be called something like: Phone Credit Checker
Logo will possibly be:

Or:


Could a Mod please change the title of this thread also please?

Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote:

Hello. My name is Damien O'Reilly.

I have developed NON PROFIT, NON COMMERCIAL, OPEN SOURCE application that allows My3 3Pay customers check their credit using their android in an efficient convenient manner. This application will never be used for profit or commercial purposes.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=damo.three.ie The application description states that the app nor the author is affiliated with "Hutchison 3G Ireland Limited"

Its source code is published here: https://github.com/DamienOReilly/My3Usage

My question to you is:
Do I have formal permission to use the "Three" logo in my application? Are Hutchison 3G Ireland Limited OK with this? Do they prefer it is removed?

Can you please forward this mail to the relevant interested personnel who may be able to answer the query in this message.

Thank you.

Three: Reps wrote:

Hi Damien,
I've checked this with out legal team and I'm afraid we cannot approve use of any Three logos or related branding, Sorry,
Thanks
Julie

Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote:

Hi does that mean that it is ok to continue with the application once the Three logo's are removed ?

Hi, please be aware neither myself of the app claims to represent Three. The user is informed of this and it us the users choice whether they wish to use this application.

It merely is an application to parse and aggregate a user's prepay usage data, and only their data.

I am currently in the process of removing Three's copyrighted logo's with free non-copyrighted material.

Three: Reps wrote:

Hi Damien,
I'm afraid we will not give any blessing or approval for anyone to represent Three unless it comes from one of our authorized channels and has been thoroughly checked and approved as it raises security concerns.
Thanks,
Julie

Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote:

Hi, please be aware neither myself of the app claims to represent Three. The user is informed of this and it us the users choice whether they wish to use this application.

It merely is an application to parse and aggregate a user's prepay usage data, and only their data.

I am currently in the process of removing Three's copyrighted logo's with free non-copyrighted material.

Three: Reps wrote:

Hi Damien,

I'm sorry but our legal team have advised that we consider this to be unlawful use of intellectual property and terms of use.

Julie

Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote:

I'm not really sure what the "unlawful use of intellectual property" is then. Can you please clarify?

Also what is the violation of terms of use?

This application accesses the my3account.three.ie URL. How is this different than accessing it via Chrome/Firefox? Do the browsers also fall into the unlawful use then also?

Also do the webtext applications that use webtext.three.ie also fall into this category? Because as far as I'm aware, they are been allowed to operate without concern.

Three: Reps wrote:

Hi Damien,

Please see below for update from our legal team:

Essentially, all rights, including copyright in Three Services and their content, belong to us. The ‘Three’ trademark and other related images, logos and names on Three Services are proprietary marks of our group of companies, including My3. We reserve all our rights with regards to the former.

We are not engaging in any further correspondence.

Sorry we can't help you with this,
Julie

Daisy Dazzling Marinade wrote:

I have a feeling the legal team doesn't really see the technical point of view I'm coming from.

The "Three" trademark and other related images, logo's etc.. are been removed. The wording "My3" is been removed. The application has no branding what-so ever that contains 3 copyright material. It is a generic application that happens to access https://my3account.three.ie in the same way other internet applications do.

If you are saying "Three Services and their content" is copyright e.g. my usage information is copyright of three... this is merely an application that accesses your website. In the same way that Internet Explorer, Firefox and Chrome does. Are you's restricting how a user accesses your website? What tools/browsers they can use?


I am taking it that if the application contains absolutely no branding from 3, that the legal team have no grounds for issues with this application, and that is what the issues were in the first place.

I will post a history of this conversation online for people using this application to be informed as to why its name and logo's are changing.

Also, I believe 3 should show more friendliness for such apps, since they don't provide a similar app themselves. This app has 1,600 users and growing each day. Users are also requesting new functionality. It seems like the public want this!

wba88

It seems poor communication (between the '3' rep and the legal team) has resulted in a lost of translation scenario!

You may have better luck communicating with the guys on the Three Board

From what I can tell, there isn't a problem with your app as long as you remove all of their trademarked logos and names.

griffdaddy

Super attitude from three there, well done guys. You don't provide a fairly essential facility, someone shows some iniative and does it for free in a great way so you threaten them with legal action.

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Super attitude from three there, well done guys. You don't provide a fairly essential facility, someone shows some iniative and does it for free in a great way so you threaten them with legal action.

Don't think they threatened legal action, if damo2k had never asked they probably would never have said anything to him.

There response was fairly poor though, I agree with you on that. He may be better off talking to someone directly in head office as the reps on the boards here probably aren't the best for this type of thing. It's not really there area.

Amirani

I don't see where the illegality would come from in a technical sense. I'd remove all branding references as you have done and leave it up there. If you get sent further legal correspondence after that then I'd re-evaluate.

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New version pushed to Google Play should keep Three happy.