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Who has best chance at beating Anderson Silva?

  • 10-07-2012 2:01pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭


    With Chael sadly letting us all down at the weekend, Silva really does look as invincible as ever. Who do you reckon has the best shot at actually dethroning him or is he just gonna continue winning until retirement?

    Bisping, Munoz, Lombard, Stann, Boetsch, Weidman, Belcher, Evans (coming down from LHW), GSP (coming up from WW)?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭manga_10


    evans or belcher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭dilapidating


    Can't see any of them getting close tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    fibhol1906.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭manga_10


    pfft anderson is death :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    It's a shame the chap who was doing this doesn't have an updated one, but I guess it would be hard to get all the heads onto the throne.

    Anderson_Silva_1000563.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    I think it will be his fellow Brazilian... Blanka.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    Anderson's clone

    or Age+Weidman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Sonnen gassed at the end of the first round. He got full mount with almost a minute to go and just lay on top of him.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Sonnen gassed at the end of the first round. He got full mount with almost a minute to go and just lay on top of him.

    What fight were you watching? He was nowhere near gassed.

    Anyways, your post has nothing to do with the question...

    I know Bisping probably doesn't stand a chance but I'd really like to see him do it. Seems like a decent bloke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    What fight were you watching? He was nowhere near gassed.

    Anyways, your post has nothing to do with the question...

    I know Bisping probably doesn't stand a chance but I'd really like to see him do it. Seems like a decent bloke.

    He's not, and that's first hand, and not only once, i met him at UFC 72 and had a drink with him at the hotel, he was sound, since then our paths have crossed 3-4 times and each time he's got gradually worse (Big headed)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    At middleweight: no one, Evans would be the closest if he came down.

    At Light Heavyweight: guys like Bader and Phil Davis would give him decent tests because they are very good wrestlers but Jones & Hendo would be the people who have the most legit chance of beating Anderson.

    Is Evans actually moving down ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    unknown13 wrote: »
    At middleweight: no one, Evans would be the closest if he came down.

    At Light Heavyweight: guys like Bader and Phil Davis would give him decent tests because they are very good wrestlers but Jones & Hendo would be the people who have the most legit chance of beating Anderson.

    Is Evans actually moving down ?

    If he chopped off a limb then maybe he'd make 185, otherwise i doubt it


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I want to see Munoz up next, I don't think his wrestling is as good as others but I still think he's got the best chance. I like Weidmann but I think he needs more time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    I want to see Munoz up next, I don't think his wrestling is as good as others but I still think he's got the best chance. I like Weidmann but I think he needs more time.

    His wrestling is most likely good enough to give Anderson some problems and the dude also has freak power.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Jonah42


    Munoz is a Division 1 wrestling champ. His wrestling is probably the best in the division!

    Maybe him or Belcher, don't see it happening though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I think if any of the current crop of MWs beat Anderson it will be a horrible shame because, let's face it, none of them are worthy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    your post has nothing to do with the question...



    Ya my bad, meant to post this in the UFC 148 thread.

    But great input cereal, answering the question who has the best chance at beating Anderson with
    I know Bisping probably doesn't stand a chance

    In the words of a wise man
    your post has nothing to do with the question


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    Sorry, I'll rephrase it for you,

    Bisping probably doesn't stand a chance but IMO he's the most likely to succeed.

    Is that ok for you?

    BTW, thanks for the compliment. It was sweet of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Stupid post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Ya my bad, meant to post this in the UFC 148 thread.

    But great input cereal, answering the question who has the best chance at beating Anderson with

    In the words of a wise man

    You seemed to have failed to include the entire sentence. I think the Bisping comment was valid enough.

    To say someone doesn't have much of a chance isn't to say he doens't have a higher chance than everyone else and therefore the best chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭Plastikman_eire


    I'd give Munoz the best chance out of the current bunch. Got the wrestling pedigree, but he has enough power in his hands to take advantage in positions where Sonnen couldn't.

    Of course, I still think he'd get away within two rounds mind!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    The rest of the sentence stated that cereal would like Bisping to win and that he thinks Bisping is a nice guy. Well I would like to see Belfort beat Anderson and I think hes sound but it isn't really relevant.

    Plus MrStuffins you actually failed to include the entire sentence, leaving out the part in which I called cereal wise, which was to show that my response was to be taken with a bit of humor and wasn't a dig at cereal.

    I think prehaps MrStuffins is trying to stir things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Silva got lucky last time, I'd pick Belfort to beat him-last time Anderson was looking spooked I felt.

    The front kick was pure luck.

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    JJayoo wrote: »
    The rest of the sentence stated that cereal would like Bisping to win and that he thinks Bisping is a nice guy. Well I would like to see Belfort beat Anderson and I think hes sound but it isn't really relevant.

    Plus MrStuffins you actually failed to include the entire sentence, leaving out the part in which I called cereal wise, which was to show that my response was to be taken with a bit of humor and wasn't a dig at cereal.

    I think prehaps MrStuffins is trying to stir things.

    I didn't leave anything out. I never quoted anything!
    cowzerp wrote: »
    Silva got lucky last time, I'd pick Belfort to beat him-last time Anderson was looking spooked I felt.

    The front kick was pure luck.

    There was no luck about it! Steven Seagal taught him how to do it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    I'm gonna hold of until Cody Mckenzie finds a McDonalds and moves up to take Andersons crown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    This is very pointless but
    I didn't leave anything out. I never quoted anything!

    You quoted most of my post. Anyhow completely pointless to derail the thread so I'm right and thats that :rolleyes::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Are people forgeting Munoz got beat by Okami?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    JJayoo wrote: »
    This is very pointless but


    You quoted most of my post. Anyhow completely pointless to derail the thread so I'm right and thats that :rolleyes::pac:

    Forgive me, I DID quote your post.

    However, I didn't leave anything out! I didn't edit it in any way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    cowzerp wrote: »
    Silva got lucky last time, I'd pick Belfort to beat him-last time Anderson was looking spooked I felt.

    The front kick was pure luck.

    I'd like to see Belfort get another crack at him but I think he needs to knock off another contender beforehand.

    Ideally I'd like to see Belfort and Munoz take a different route to Anderson so there are two potential legit challengers in the wings.
    Jonah42 wrote: »
    Munoz is a Division 1 wrestling champ. His wrestling is probably the best in the division!

    Maybe him or Belcher, don't see it happening though.

    Munoz has also stated the Anderson was tough to take down when he trained with him. I also reckon Chael has better TD's in MMA.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭Jason McCabe


    Pele


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Pele

    I dunno. I haven't heard much of him since he stopped being able to get it up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    That video with Pele calling out Anderson is ridiculous.

    Seemed to be he was annoyed Anderson didnt say hello or good morning

    Jealousy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭onlyasuggestion


    Bisping has looked really improved in his last fight or two (Okay he lost the Sonnen fight but it was close) and reckon he could give Silva a decent fight for a couple of rounds if he utilised his wrestling offensively mixed in with his strikes. Silva just doesn't seem to try and defend the takedown as far as I can see, prefers to get a guy in his guard.

    Belcher could be a good scrap too with his solid all round game. But as for beating him? I dont think anyone's really up to it at the moment. That said, I think Silva is already showing signs of age and it could very easily all catch up to him on one night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    Munoz deserves a shot anyway so give it to him... I think he'd have less of a chance than Sonnen but let him try.. people would watch it.. I'd watch it. I think Munoz is great but he's not as tough or strong as Sonnen IMO whatever about his wrestling past.

    Evans v Silva would be epic... please make this happen - even at a catch weight of 195... I think Evans could get down to that if he was given notice like 'we're giving Munoz a go first and win/lose you're fighting Silva at 195 in 7 months'... awesome fight !! I'd give it to Silva on gut feeling but hard to call...

    What does anyone think about Mousassi v Silva ? I reckon a motivated and well prepared Mousassi would make a legit threat to Silva's crown ! Just sayin

    and as for Lombard - he's a douche, relatively untested to a degree but is a man munching beast eating nut job... would deffo present a credible threat - obviously only if he bull-rushed Silva Sonnen-style and tried to pound him out.


    Munoz... then Evans...or Mousassi (in another dimension) or Lombard (just coz I want that fight so much)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    little look at Mousassi if somebody hasn't seen much of him...anyway the tunes good




    incidentally - he fought one of our lads years ago John Donnelly I was there to see it... Donnelly lost that night but has done well recently I see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Locomotion wrote: »
    Bisping, Munoz, Lombard, Stann, Boetsch, Weidman, Belcher, Evans (coming down from LHW), GSP (coming up from WW)?
    Vitor has a better shot than most of them.

    Bisping was in a good place to earn a shot, but got injuried, now needs to beat Stann for a title shot.
    Munoz in a good spot right now, and might get the nod depending on how 149 goes. If Lombard impresses a lot, a la Silva's debut vrs Leben, he'll get the shot. I think Boetsch and Weidman are going to be eliminated from contention very soon.
    That leaves Belcher v Vitor

    So I want to
    Bisping has looked really improved in his last fight or two (Okay he lost the Sonnen fight but it was close) and reckon he could give Silva a decent fight for a couple of rounds if he utilised his wrestling offensively mixed in with his strikes. Silva just doesn't seem to try and defend the takedown as far as I can see, prefers to get a guy in his guard.
    Bisping's wrestling??? What wrestling? I'm all for Bisping getting a shot if he beats a top 5 guy, but he is not a wrestler is any shape or form.
    As for Silva not defending TDs, if that was the case Chael would of won at the weekend.
    What does anyone think about Mousassi v Silva ? I reckon a motivated and well prepared Mousassi would make a legit threat to Silva's crown ! Just sayin
    Mousassi is a light heavyweight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    I can't believe some people think Bisping has a chance...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    I'd love to see Anderson fight Bisping, because it could happen in England

    Silva has talked about wanting to fight in England again in the past

    but Anderson would just toy with him

    anderson-silva-backdoor-leg-kick.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭moongoose


    maybe they should feed anderson to big country :P

    with the talk of fighters moving up or down i'd say the one that could be an interesting challenge if he moved up may be ebersol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    What does anyone think about Mousassi v Silva ? I reckon a motivated and well prepared Mousassi would make a legit threat to Silva's crown ! Just sayin
    Mousassi is a light heavyweight[/Quote]

    sure Mousasi would fight middle to heavy like Hendo if motivated correctly... actually once Hendo loses to Bones he can do the same and everybody will hype up Dan having a good chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭Jason McCabe


    The most interesting fight out there has to be bones v anderson


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 6,337 Mod ✭✭✭✭PerrinV2


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I think if any of the current crop of MWs beat Anderson it will be a horrible shame because, let's face it, none of them are worthy!

    ^This.I hope he retires undefeated in the ufc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    Paulo Filho... Lolz, I'm not starting this again :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 pricetag


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I think if any of the current crop of MWs beat Anderson it will be a horrible shame because, let's face it, none of them are worthy!
    Hendo deserves another shot...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    pricetag wrote: »
    Hendo deserves another shot...

    Hendo isn't one of the current crop of MWs


    Edit: Also, you say "deserves". He's getting what he deserves, a shot at the LHW title, where he's been fighting for the past 2 and a half years. His last MW fight was a spanking by Jake Shields!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    After Sonnen losing I don't mind if he continues to smash up what's left of the division.

    Would like to see him to retire undefeated though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    After Sonnen losing I don't mind if he continues to smash up what's left of the division.

    Would like to see him to retire undefeated though.

    He should retire now IMO if his legacy is the most important thing to him. There's nobody left!

    He won't though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    I hope he pushes it and eventually takes a fight he's likely to lose just because he loves fighting... he hasn't been hurt badly in his career through a mix of luck and brilliance. IMO 'perfect legacy' is not paramount and if he acts as if it's not then I'll have way more respect for him.. he's the most skillful Cage fighter to have lived in my opinion and has nothing left to prove and absolutely nothing will change that view no matter what happens in his next/last 3 or 4 fights. Conceivably he could actually fight for another 7 years and with smart striking he could still take out 'most' competition until the new breed Rory McDonalds of this world take over every division. Actually now that I think of it.. if Rory beef caked up he could credibly take Silva on. Straw clutching is fun : )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Bit daft IMO of having a thread title **spoilers**Who has best chance at beating winner of Chael vAnderson?

    I mean, quite a few would beat Chael, as much as i love the guy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 pricetag


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Hendo isn't one of the current crop of MWs


    Edit: Also, you say "deserves". He's getting what he deserves, a shot at the LHW title, where he's been fighting for the past 2 and a half years. His last MW fight was a spanking by Jake Shields!
    Deadly, didn`t know he was gonna try beat bones.......


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