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Why do bottoms outnumber tops?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Ah the age old art of turning! making someone believe you are a bottom until they have you banging away at them not knowing when or how the tables turned:D

    There's nothing better than getting another dominant top on his back for you tbh!:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭toexpress


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Well then make them turn for you! I've run into a lot of tops that were really set on topping me but I managed to change their minds. You don't know until you try I suppose :)

    Have done but usually get the "it hurts to much can't take it man" line ... pain in the proverbial!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭floggg


    toexpress wrote: »
    Have done but usually get the "it hurts to much can't take it man" line ... pain in the proverbial!

    Well, where else would it be hurting him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Just a quick reminder to keep things pg, guys. Sorry to be a buzzkill.


  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭coolperson05


    This is why I love being gay! Never an inappropriate time/place! ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭mtnh


    I actually think for me it's a confidence thing. I don't feel confident/"man" enough to be top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    Great thread guys,

    I have been away and just catching up!

    I voted versatile, I love doing it both ways. In my experience over the years, it seems more lads prefer to be a bottom than a top. For me I like having the choice of being both a bottom or a top. When I met my bf, he had never topped a guy before and had very little confidence to be a top. Over time I built his confidence up and now it has got to a stage where he just loves being a top!! Didn't want that to happen!

    The best is when we both give it a shot a topping each other!

    1ZRed, you say you don't like the idea of being f##ked, I was exactly the same at your age. However with some experience, I started experimenting and found it quite enjoyable! A gay mate of mine (who I never "thought" as being a bottom) told me that it was the most amazing feeling he had, so I gave it a shot, and never looked back. But it is still great to be a top as well. I would not like to be with someone who is stuck one way only.

    Have fun, and most importantly be safe!

    BM


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭Daith


    mtnh wrote: »
    I actually think for me it's a confidence thing. I don't feel confident/"man" enough to be top.

    I wonder if it's a case that bottoms are less confident than tops? Or is just a matter of what you like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Daith wrote: »
    I wonder if it's a case that bottoms are less confident than tops? Or is just a matter of what you like?

    I'm not too sure about that. Like I've been with some very hot and masculine guys that purely bottomed because they loved the feeling. Maybe confidence plays into it more than I thought though.
    I've been told I'm very dominant and assertive with guys (whether that's good or bad) and they think I'm much older and in my early 20s so they do submit to me. Maybe because they find me kind of domineering and so confidence is brought into it? I dunno. I have to work on that!:p

    Sometimes I wonder if it's more confidence because they can get turned off once they find out I'm 18 and not the 22 they assumed. But I twist it around to make it kind of hot and they're back on me!:D

    In reality though, you're not going to do something totally out of your comfort zone just because of confidence usually. That's like me bottoming if a guy was more confident than me, and that has been the case a lot of times, but I still haven't bottomed for them.

    Who knew fucking and getting fucked was deeper and more complex than I thought?:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    Great thread guys,

    I have been away and just catching up!

    I voted versatile, I love doing it both ways. In my experience over the years, it seems more lads prefer to be a bottom than a top. For me I like having the choice of being both a bottom or a top. When I met my bf, he had never topped a guy before and had very little confidence to be a top. Over time I built his confidence up and now it has got to a stage where he just loves being a top!! Didn't want that to happen!

    The best is when we both give it a shot a topping each other!

    1ZRed, you say you don't like the idea of being f##ked, I was exactly the same at your age. However with some experience, I started experimenting and found it quite enjoyable! A gay mate of mine (who I never "thought" as being a bottom) told me that it was the most amazing feeling he had, so I gave it a shot, and never looked back. But it is still great to be a top as well. I would not like to be with someone who is stuck one way only.

    Have fun, and most importantly be safe!

    BM

    I think it's time I got broken in but I'm reluctant. I know I should bottom a few times so I can be a better top and not to be so greedy! It's just that more than the mindset, I hate the feeling. Like it's not overly painful but not pleasurable in anyway at all to me. One guy did find my prostate and it wasn't anything special at all so I thought "this is what all the hype is about?" although I have to admitt I'm getting very curious about bottoming so I won't rule it out altogether.

    When I get a boyfriend and he wants to top I'll give it up. Untill then though, I'm in no rush and I'm not letting some hook up take a shot at me either. I know, a pure woman's mentality!:cool: :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭floggg


    You seem to be having a lot of sex for an 18 year old :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Daith wrote: »
    I wonder if it's a case that bottoms are less confident than tops? Or is just a matter of what you like?

    I have a friend who has a pretty intense job where it's expected that he's dominant, so he enjoys being completely submissive in the bedroom.

    I was very reluctant to bottom, but he encouraged the purchase of a buttplug and douche, and now, here I am, preferring to bottom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    floggg wrote: »
    You seem to be having a lot of sex for an 18 year old :)
    It is good practice if one was thinking of becoming a porn star.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Hey hey! That was just one of my options...that I considered for too long:o


    Still going to send the pics and see if they would be interested!

    At least that way I won't wonder what if?;)
    Would you not be better getting a job and working instead of wasting time and effort on get rich quick schemes that have all been tried before by those older and wiser? all this talk of sex and whether people are top or bottom only shows a level of immaturity which is clearly identifiable to others who will take advantage of you because of it.

    Have you tried McDonalds or Supermacs or your local convenience store or coal yard?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Hmmm caught me out there!:P But realistically.

    Anyway everyone says nothing beats the real thing!;)

    Well, that is fairly offensive, to be honest.

    it's pretty close to those who say gay sex isn't real sex at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Well, that is fairly offensive, to be honest.

    it's pretty close to those who say gay sex isn't real sex at all.

    No I didn't think so. I meant that two men could be naturally versatile and switch roles from penetrating to being penetrated.

    That's exclusive to a gay relationship in comparison to a straight one without the need for a strap on obviously. And it's a more natural and common dynamic for two gay men in comparison to straight couples.


    I never implied or meant to imply that anything else wasn't real sex. And the "not as good as the real thing" is a comment I always hear from guys and that's what I'm talking about in this context, for gay/bi men only.

    No offence to lesbians or straight guys getting penetrated that way, I didn't mean it that way if that's how it came across :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    About people saying I should be versatile, hit up with a guy recently (no judgement) who was a pure bottom (again, very masculine) and actually got turned off when we were texting before hand and he thought I was vers. And this is his quote "They become too greedy! They can rot in hell for all I care for! Lol" 
    And you guys where saying I should become vers!
    He says he likes his tops to be tops, as in the stereotype which I think I am for him. 

    He really loved the fact that I've never been topped and I'm very dominant so the whole dom/sub thing was going on plus I never have met a guy so submissive in my life! (so far anyway) it was a turn off but a huge turn on at the same time. Like, it was strange/confusing but really hot?:confused: 



    Anyway, back on track! I think I was right about the whole bottom to top imbalance but I'm thinking this means that for the vers guys that like to do it both ways, they slightly prefer to bottom rather than top because it's just more pleasurable? Bare in mind on the poll I said "versatile to varying degrees" so I'm not talking pure 50/50 and there's a bit of leeway on either side.

    Not trying to make assumptions but that's what I'm getting from my experience at least!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Captain Graphite


    1ZRed wrote: »
    About people saying I should be versatile, hit up with a guy recently (no judgement)

    I wouldn't normally judge people for sleeping around......
    who was a pure bottom (again, very masculine) and actually got turned off when we were texting before hand and he thought I was vers. And this is his quote "They become too greedy! They can rot in hell for all I care for! Lol" 
    And you guys where saying I should become vers!
    He says he likes his tops to be tops, as in the stereotype which I think I am for him. 

    ....but I would judge you if you slept with someone as demonstrably idiotic as this guy. "They become too greedy! They can rot in hell"....I mean what the actual fúck?!

    I'm surprised he had the required brain cells to be able to send you a text message in the first place. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I wouldn't normally judge people for sleeping around......



    ....but I would judge you if you slept with someone as demonstrably idiotic as this guy. "They become too greedy! They can rot in hell"....I mean what the actual fúck?!

    I'm surprised he had the required brain cells to be able to send you a text message in the first place. :rolleyes:

    No I agree and thought it was a stupid comment and I've heard it said about bottoms a few times only not versatile men. That's just his view on it I suppose and he was joking and it was said in the heat of the moment. He wasn't a stupid guy at all, in fact he's doing biochemistry in college so you can stop being making assumptions and get off your horse.

    Best fcuk I've had in a while if I'm honest and he's a great guy on top of that so I think that comment is a bit unfair on him.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭floggg


    While it may or may not apply to this guy, best believe stupid people can get into difficult/high points course.

    Trust me, I did a high point course!


  • Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭coolperson05


    Am I the only one who's surprised that there are 64 gay guys viewing this forum? (Due to the responses give above in the poll - provided they're all accurate) That's very interesting! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Am I the only one who's surprised that there are 64 gay guys viewing this forum? (Due to the responses give above in the poll - provided they're all accurate) That's very interesting! :p

    You gotta love the closeted guys, they love the odd anonymous poll;)

    Before I did it I knew how it would play out so I think it is pretty accurate. What I found interesting was how there are more bottoms than tops and so you could translate that into the versatile statistic and roughly see who takes the role most often but still stay and consider themselves versatile. (like versatile bottoms and versatile tops which aren't in the poll)
    Obviously it seems as though bottoming has a substantial appeal over topping which I find interesting. Got to see what all the fuss is about one of the days;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Conor30


    1ZRed wrote: »
    About people saying I should be versatile, hit up with a guy recently (no judgement) who was a pure bottom (again, very masculine) and actually got turned off when we were texting before hand and he thought I was vers. And this is his quote "They become too greedy! They can rot in hell for all I care for! Lol" 

    Wow, he sounds lovely! :rolleyes: What a tit!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    Looking closer to 50/50 now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Conor30 wrote: »
    Wow, he sounds lovely! :rolleyes: What a tit!

    I was told to "be versatile or GTFO" That's just what that guy liked and that comment that I got above was just as stupid as his. No one preference is better then the rest.
    azezil wrote: »
    Looking closer to 50/50 now.

    Yeah I noticed the only thing to go up was the "top" percentage over the last few days. Coincidence?
    I dunno but it seems like such a sudden change when they were all gradually going up fairly consistently.

    I can only speak from my experience but yeah exclusive bottoms outnumber exclusive tops and as I said, more guys are versatile (but that's not really what this thread is about). I've spoken to a few guys about it since and they seem to agree although the difference isn't that major it's still noticable. It's funny because one guy found out his friend was a bottom and he just said "great! another fucking bottom, just what we need!" He has a preference for bottoming himself although he tops the odd time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 cherry2bpopped


    Just skimimg through some of these old threads... I have never been either up to this point but I would think I would go as a bottom. Certainly that is what I will be soon I hope


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 476 ✭✭christ on a bike!


    Just skimimg through some of these old threads... I have never been either up to this point but I would think I would go as a bottom. Certainly that is what I will be soon I hope

    it's pretty awesome, especially if the other end of you is in a girl, then it's especially decadent


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Walker77


    1ZRed wrote: »
    I know in reality most guys are versatile but so so many guys I've been with are very masculine and muscular but are bottoms and if they are vers or tops they submit to me so I'm kind of starting to doubt the whole vers thing.

    I'm a top and really dislike the feeling of anything up there (I'm starting to think I have no prostrate!:p) but I don't understand what's the huge appeal in taking it?

    I'm genuinely interested because it does nothing for me (haven't been fcuked but been messed around with). Could someone explain why it gets so much hype? :D

    Btw just because I'm a top doesn't mean I'm above bottoming or look down on it in case that vibe came across. Without them I wouldn't be having sex so I respect them. :)

    Very Interesting thread good on you 1ZRed


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  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭bitburger


    i have not actually went allthe way with a man yet and for a long time said to myself ah sure dunno if bottoming would be for me, over time ive become more open to it and now the idea of topping isnt as attractive, most of the guys ive spoke to seem to be tops though/


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