Golf GTI MK5

maracas

Alright lads,

Im currently looking to get a Golf GTI MK5.I hoping to pick one up for around 7500 to 8000 mark.
I would ideally want one with both DSG and Leather interior in either black or grey.

Do you guys reckon that this is possible and would i only be able to get an 05 or possible to get an 06 for this money.

Regards.

Jimbob 83

Im am/was exactly in your situation afew months ago when i started saving.

What you will find is there is nothing but 05's at that price or poverty spec badly minded 06's

Great car as i test drove 1-2 but Leaning towards a Ford Focus ST now, the tax is scaring me off them nmow though and to my shame i am considering a 2005/6 BMW 520d

fasttalkerchat

I gave up trying to get a golf for £4000. All there were was '05s with 130k+ miles from private sales.

There are so many Ford Focus' in this bracket so looking at a 1.6 2007 focus now.

Jimbob 83

GTI's are even worse and amplify it pricewise tbh, i know a fella selling an insane 05 Golf but he wants €8k and i cannot justify paying that.

As Shadowhearth said it's a case of lots of 05's between 5-8k and then 10k+ for a decent 06/07 is a really nice 06 GTI on donedeal seller won't budge on €8995 though so it's just over a grand outside my budget

bryaner

A mate of mine just picked one up a few weeks ago, 05 air con, leather 90,000 miles €6,600 from a garage..

Nissan doctor

bryaner wrote: »

A mate of mine just picked one up a few weeks ago, 05 air con, leather 90,000 miles €6,600 from a garage..

A GTI??

With turbocharged engines and especially with the DSG box, they are not the sort of car that you try to buy the cheapest one just because it scrapes into your budget. Most of the cheapest ones are cheap for a reason IMO.

Jimbob 83

Carbon buildup keeps me awake at night

RandomAccess

There are some very rough GTi's out there in dealer forecourts. Many of them have been sitting idle for a long time and look like they were in poor condition when they arrived. Definitely need to be careful about buying a lemon alright.

bryaner

Nissan doctor wrote: »

bryaner wrote: »

A mate of mine just picked one up a few weeks ago, 05 air con, leather 90,000 miles €6,600 from a garage..

A GTI??

With turbocharged engines and especially with the DSG box, they are not the sort of car that you try to buy the cheapest one just because it scrapes into your budget. Most of the cheapest ones are cheap for a reason IMO.

Manual box (forgot to add)full vw service history, full timing belt kit done including pump, not worried about turbo with the fsh. Pure genuine motor.

Wtf do you know about his budget, he didn't have a budget..

omb0wyn5ehpij9

bryaner wrote: »

Manual box (forgot to add)full vw service history, full timing belt kit done including pump, not worried about turbo with the fsh. Pure genuine motor.

Wtf do you know about his budget, he didn't have a budget..

Lucky guy.....if I was in his position and didn't have a budget, i'd be buying a R35 GTR

maracas

All valid points.,espically buying a cheap one that just barely fits the budget.The price varies quiet alot which makes me think its the difference between a genuine motor that is well look after and one that is probably on its last legs.
I really would like to go for a DSG with leather and no the bog standard spec.
I also look and the focus but the tax is a turn of which i think is reflected in the selling price people are asking for.
Miht have to hold of till next year hopefully yhe prices will come down a little more.

I might try Vagdrivers,i reckon a enthusiast site is always a good place to look for a car as they are always well looked after.

maracas

Also what should i look out for when i go looking at one?

bryaner

BDJW wrote: »

bryaner wrote: »

Manual box (forgot to add)full vw service history, full timing belt kit done including pump, not worried about turbo with the fsh. Pure genuine motor.

Wtf do you know about his budget, he didn't have a budget..

Lucky guy.....if I was in his position and didn't have a budget, i'd be buying a R35 GTR

Aye just not the best for shoving the kids into, when I said he didn't have a budget I should have said €6600 wasn't near his max spend if he wanted..

Gumbo

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I gave up trying to get a golf for £4000. All there were was '05s with 130k+ miles from private sales.

There are so many Ford Focus' in this bracket so looking at a 1.6 2007 focus now.

World of difference between what you were looking for a and what the OP is looking for, so that would explain your woes.

maracas

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Golf/GOLF-2.0/201227208947621/advert?channel=CARS

No leather seems clean whats your thoughts.I know it has no leather though

omb0wyn5ehpij9

maracas wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Golf/GOLF-2.0/201227208947621/advert?channel=CARS

No leather seems clean whats your thoughts.I know it has no leather though

It is marked as a private sale.....the pictures look like it is inside a dealers showroom though (I could be wrong). It doesn't have leather, but if I was in your position, that wouldn't bother me. I really like the tartan seats, and think pictures do them no justice at all. There are 3 things that would put me off though, there is no air con and also no multi function steering wheel, and the wheels are badly kerbed and need to be sorted out

OSI

OSI wrote: »

Also has no A/C or Heat seats which I haven't seen a GTI without, which is odd.

It was a choice between sunroof or A/C certainly on earlier GTI's anyway and I don't remember coming across any with heated seats.

I picked up an 06 one myself just before Christmas for a little over your budget maracas, car was in superb condition with only 71k kms. Now I wasn't too bothered about spec, I was buying for the fun and comfort of driving it. I wanted the cloth seats for instance as I think they are very cool in the tartan. I also wanted a manual and I like the sunroof so can live without A/C for the odd day where it would be nice.

Lower miles, service history and general condition were much more important to me than spec when it came down to parting with cash.

Nonoperational

Things to look for are:

Diverter valve - €150
Pcv valve €80
Fuel pump cam follower €50
Aircon compressor €1k
Intake manifold flapper motor. €400

Especially in 05/06 AXX engine codes. I had to replace 4/5 of above on mine. Prices are very very rough guides.

OSI

OSI wrote: »

Fair enough, to be fair I was looking at later models, so they must have changed the standard spec in them going on. But spending 8k on a 6 year old with no more spec than a 1.4 Focus is bonkers to me, each to their own though of course.

There is much more to a GTI though apart from spec, there isn't in a 1.4 focus. Obviously certain things would be nice like aircon or cruise control or full Bluetooth connectivity (though I will sort that with a parrot kit) but when I was buying the priority was a looked after car with full service history, low miles, body work and wheels in very good condition and very clean interior. When one came along I wasnt going to let the absence of one or two small things put me off it.

Nonoperational

+1
It's a drivers car, I have a "poverty spec" one but to be honest when I sit in to the decent seats, put on the aircon and some music from my iPhone I can't see there's much more I'd want to comfortably drive it tbh. Regardless of your opinion of VWs it does drive very well.

Theboinkmaster

OSI wrote: »

Fair enough, to be fair I was looking at later models, so they must have changed the standard spec in them going on. But spending 8k on a 6 year old with no more spec than a 1.4 Focus is bonkers to me, each to their own though of course.

Air con became standard on the golf from 2007 on.

tossy

OSI wrote: »

But spending 8k on a 6 year old with no more spec than a 1.4 Focus is bonkers to me, each to their own though of course.

The mind boggles! i could spend 30k a 15 year old car with 1 seat,no radio,no dashboard,no lights,no carpets,and a fire extinguisher between your legs..... you are comparing apples and oranges - i love the focus but comparing a 1.4 one to a GTI on the basis of spec alone is nonsense.

Theboinkmaster

tossy wrote: »

The mind boggles! i could spend 30k a 15 year old car with 1 seat,no radio,no dashboard,no lights,no carpets,and a fire extinguisher between your legs..... you are comparing apples and oranges - i love the focus but comparing a 1.4 one to a GTI on the basis of spec alone is nonsense.

I think his point was really about the bad basic spec of the GTI 04-06. Spending €38k on a car without things like air con, steering wheel controls etc as basic ....

tossy

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

I think his point was really about the bad basic spec of the GTI 04-06. Spending €38k on a car without things like air con, steering wheel controls etc as basic ....

If that was the point then i agree,personally a GTI wouldn't interest me unless it had DSG,Xenons,leather etc i think it shouldn't been sold with out some of these.

But,the quote below doesn't point to that being his point he is comparing two second cars based on price and spec alone which is bonkers to me.

OSI wrote: »

But spending 8k on a 6 year old with no more spec than a 1.4 Focus is bonkers to me, each to their own though of course.

bazz26

If you want a well speced Golf GTi, buy a Skoda Octavia vRS...

tossy

OSI wrote: »

I wasn't comparing them for price, you'd get a focus for half the price of the GTI. I was trying to point out that it made no sense to me to spend that much on a car with so little equipment just because of an engine and a badge.

I think you are still missing the point in fairness,but we will drive on.

tossy

bazz26 wrote: »

If you want a well speced Golf GTi, buy a Skoda Octavia vRS...

Oh oh!

As a guy once infamously said VRs's are bought by lads who are married to thundering B$%*@s who won't let them buy a GTI.

Blazer

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

to my shame i am considering a 2005/6 BMW 520d

god love you I'm sure there's plenty of people in here who'd love your dilemma.

520D is a great car..remapped it's bloody awesome
approx 203hp with 420nm of torque

maracas

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Golf/GOLF-2.0/201218208042030/advert?channel=CARS

What would you offer on this without running the risk of been thrown out of the garage.

OSI

OSI wrote: »

Fair enough, I get it, I'm obviously the only one thinking it's bonkers to buy a 6-7 year old car for 8 grand and not at least expect Air Con, just because it has a bigger engine. My bad. I'll be sure to feel a bit silly when I next climb into my air coned, heated leather clad GTI with obviously ridiculous extras. Good luck with the search OP.

I don't think its silly at all to want certain extras its just about priorities and for me spec came second to other more important things like mileage, bodywork condition etc.

I also specifically wanted the tartan cloth seats as I had leather in my last car and wasn't a fan to be honest. The tartan seats are uber cool and and cloth is more comfortable than leather.

I also specifically wanted a proper manual, just dont like the whole not having a proper gear box and clutch. Drove autos before and yes I know you cant compare how well they work but I just felt detached from the cars not having a clutch and manual box.

bazz26 wrote: »

If you want a well speced Golf GTi, buy a Skoda Octavia vRS...

I'd rather pay more and have the Golf personally, based on interior and exterior looks alone.

maracas wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Golf/GOLF-2.0/201218208042030/advert?channel=CARS

What would you offer on this without running the risk of been thrown out of the garage.

Unless you really need a 5 door you should try to find a 3 door one, something not right about a 5 door GTI.

logie101

I have had a MK 5 GTI for 5 years now and I cannot recommend it high enough. Great handling and good power from the TSi engine. It really is all the car you could ever want!

Mine is a DSG with a high spec and I look after it well. But I would not recommend anyone buying one unless it had a full VW history. specially the dsg oil change needs done every 40k km. ( a new dsg gearbox is at least €5,000!)

The 18 inch wheels are a pain as well. The ride is too hard with them and the are hard to keep corsion free. Sensible choice is to stick to 17s.

So it really is worth paying a little extra for a well looked after example.

Jimbob 83

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

...... i am considering a 2005/6 BMW 520d

what sort of money would you expect to pick up an O6 for?

Gumbo

maracas wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Golf/GOLF-2.0/201218208042030/advert?channel=CARS

What would you offer on this without running the risk of been thrown out of the garage.

Id walk in with 1k in cash. Offer 9k for the car and make sure they see the 1k cash deposit. tell them your ready to sign now and will be back tomorrow with a draft for the balance..


whats the worse they can say..................no, then just up it a bit until you both agree. assuming you like the car of course after inspection.

Theboinkmaster

kceire wrote: »

Id walk in with 1k in cash. Offer 9k for the car and make sure they see the 1k cash deposit. tell them your ready to sign now and will be back tomorrow with a draft for the balance..


whats the worse they can say..................no, then just up it a bit until you both agree. assuming you like the car of course after inspection.

That's a good tactic alright.

George Dalton

kceire wrote: »

Id walk in with 1k in cash. Offer 9k for the car and make sure they see the 1k cash deposit. tell them your ready to sign now and will be back tomorrow with a draft for the balance..


whats the worse they can say..................no, then just up it a bit until you both agree. assuming you like the car of course after inspection.

What kind of margin do you think they have on that car? :eek:

Jimbob 83

RoverJames wrote: »

what sort of money would you expect to pick up an O6 for?

Have €7,700 to play with, so mainly 05 territory

Jimbob 83

George Dalton wrote: »

What kind of margin do you think they have on that car? :eek:

They would still make a profit, anyone expecting €12,000 for a 2006 golf wants their head checked tbh.

logie101

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

They would still make a profit, anyone expecting €12,000 for a 2006 golf wants their head checked tbh.

To be honest when you think that a good spec 2006 GTI could of been 45k new. 12k isn't a bad price.

Look at the price of BMW 3 series of the same year. Poor spec 320ds, 318,320 are looking crazy money.

12k isn't bad for a good spec gti.....

Jimbob 83

logie101 wrote: »

To be honest when you think that a good spec 2006 GTI could of been 45k new. 12k isn't a bad price.

Look at the price of BMW 3 series of the same year. Poor spec 320ds, 318,320 are looking crazy money.

12k isn't bad for a good spec gti.....

Ofc it's a bad price, 2 Litre Turbo petrol which means limited market and badly looked after ones are trouble, regardless i would go full retard and get a 07 ST for 4 grand less

Gumbo

George Dalton wrote: »

What kind of margin do you think they have on that car? :eek:

Based on previous experience and ongoing experience with the dealer, i'd imagine they paid 8k for that car.

carbon nanotube

gpf101 wrote: »

Things to look for are:

Diverter valve - €150
Pcv valve €80
Fuel pump cam follower €50
Aircon compressor €1k
Intake manifold flapper motor. €400

Especially in 05/06 AXX engine codes. I had to replace 4/5 of above on mine. Prices are very very rough guides.

1 grand for a compressor..:rolleyes:

get one on parts gate way for a fraction of that.

Nonoperational

I didn't pay €1k i paid about €400 because VW contributed some goodwill. As far as I remember it was around €1k for an exchange VW one with the flush and regas. Ya wouldn't have gone that route if I didn't get goodwill. Bit of labour in fitting and flushing system etc too.

maracas

kceire wrote: »

Id walk in with 1k in cash. Offer 9k for the car and make sure they see the 1k cash deposit. tell them your ready to sign now and will be back tomorrow with a draft for the balance..


whats the worse they can say..................no, then just up it a bit until you both agree. assuming you like the car of course after inspection.

So went in and took it for a test seems straight car.Little knocking noise when going over speed bumps probably bushings or something.
So tried to deal ready to drop a deposit and start at round 8.5 up to 9k
He said they never sell there cars for less than 3 or 4 % of marked price.

So basically was knocking 450 of the price and said not to even ring him unless its near that mark.

450 isnt much discount now is it?

Blazer

maracas wrote: »

So went in and took it for a test seems straight car.Little knocking noise when going over speed bumps probably bushings or something.
So tried to deal ready to drop a deposit and start at round 8.5 up to 9k
He said they never sell there cars for less than 3 or 4 % of marked price.

So basically was knocking 450 of the price and said not to even ring him unless its near that mark.

450 isnt much discount now is it?

If that car was in perfect condition etc then I'd probably go for it.
I'd be getting them to fix that knocking noise etc before buying it though

maracas

maracas wrote: »

So went in and took it for a test seems straight car.Little knocking noise when going over speed bumps probably bushings or something.
So tried to deal ready to drop a deposit and start at round 8.5 up to 9k
He said they never sell there cars for less than 3 or 4 % of marked price.

So basically was knocking 450 of the price and said not to even ring him unless its near that mark.

450 isnt much discount now is it?

My one doesn't have leather, DSG or climate control but 11500 is still considerably more than I paid for my one privately. Same year and mine actually had slightly lower kms, though 81k kms is nothing either. Personally I think its too much even with the extras.

Also is the timing belt done? It should be done on years by now rather than kms, if its not and you decide to buy it I'd be looking for it to be done before touching it.

bazz26

maracas wrote: »

So went in and took it for a test seems straight car.Little knocking noise when going over speed bumps probably bushings or something.
So tried to deal ready to drop a deposit and start at round 8.5 up to 9k
He said they never sell there cars for less than 3 or 4 % of marked price.

So basically was knocking 450 of the price and said not to even ring him unless its near that mark.

450 isnt much discount now is it?

How is it priced against similar models? If it is still above what others are priced at then I would sit, wait and watch it. I cannot imagine there is huge demand for these cars in the current climate

Jimbob 83

Your original budget was 7.5 to 8 grand and now you are considering spending 11.5 on a car that will be 7 years old in afew months.

I almost got sucked into doing this but common sense kicked in, have a good think about it first tbh

Jimbob 83

Gah double post, net sucks tonight

Jimbob 83

Doublepost. Gah my net sucks tonight