UFC 148 Discussion **SPOILERS**

scudzilla

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Event: UFC 148: "Silva vs. Sonnen II"
Date: Sat., July 7, 2012, at 10 p.m. ET on pay-per-view (PPV)
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Event:

185 lbs.: UFC Middleweight Champion Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen

Main card (pay-per-view):

205 lbs.: Forrest Griffin vs. Tito Ortiz
185 lbs.: Patrick Cote vs. Cung Le
170 lbs.: Dong Hyun Kim vs. Demian Maia
145 lbs.: Mike Easton vs. Ivan Menjivar
145 lbs.: Chad Mendes vs. Cody McKenzie

Preliminary card (FX Channel):

155 lbs.: Habib Nurmagomedov vs. Gleison Tibau
185 lbs.: Riki Fukuda vs. Constantinos Philippou
155 lbs.: Fabricio Camoes vs. Melvin Guillard
170 lbs.: John Alessio vs. Shane Roller

Preliminary Card (Facebook)

155 lbs.: Rafaello Oliveira and Yoislandy Izquierdo

Kurz

When is Brock Fighting? Will this be broadcasted on my television machine?

MrStuffins

Due to the Main Event being so big, its easy to forget that this is a quality card!

Some great match ups.

Cote v Cung Le will be competitive.

As will Easton v Menjivar! Easton is a beast and Menjivar is on a nice run and it's hard to forget he's only 30! He's been around for so log!

Kim v Maia is a very interesting one IMO! 2 great grapplers with 2 completely different grappling styles and decent stand-up!

scudzilla

Cody Mckenzie by Guillotine choke anyone??

scudzilla

MrStuffins wrote: »

Due to the Main Event being so big, its easy to forget that this is a quality card!

Some great match ups.

Cote v Cung Le will be competitive.

As will Easton v Menjivar! Easton is a beast and Menjivar is on a nice run and it's hard to forget he's only 30! He's been around for so log!

Kim v Maia is a very interesting one IMO! 2 great grapplers with 2 completely different grappling styles and decent stand-up!

Yeah, this main card is as strong as i've seen in a LOOOOONG time.

I've a feeling Forrest v Tito could well be a Fight of the Year Contendor, Forrest is a warrior and loves getting hit, Tito in his last outting will definitely wanna go out with a bang, I have Forrest though, late TKO or decision.

I think Cote will take Le, but by decision

Easton to win early on by TKO.

Can't split Kim v Maia and reckon it'll be a close decision either way.

Hoping Mckenzie comes through, liked him on TUF and wouldn't like to see him go 1-3 (think he's 1-2 now)

scudzilla

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't split Kim v Maia and reckon it'll be a close decision either way.

Heard a rumour that Maia was struggling with his weight cut and he's lethargic and slow atm.
Obviously could just be blowing smoke but I'm going for Kim.

Mr. Manager

I will pay a lot of money if someone can make today Saturday.

Don't remember being this excited about a fight... Bit crummy that Faber and Cruz got scrapped from this.

Looking forward to more of Cung Le's stuff, he's a seriously entertaining fighter!

Dermighty

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

I will pay a lot of money if someone can make today Saturday.

One headbutt coming right up!

Cheque in the post?!

Be like Nutella

most excited I've been since Randy v Brock... for whatever reason... just remember foot tapping and not talking to anyone for about 10 mins before the fight... this is gona be worse... wonder what tunes the lads are comin out to...
This is truly a once and for all test of Silva's greatness... I know he's 38 but age hasn't affected him yet so age is no excuse so we should expect the best Silva ever... and Sonnen will require it... but if the best Silva ever turns up then Sonnen is getting hurt... real bad ! (probably not quite all limbs broken and die but everything up to that point

Talk v Talent
Hype v Greatness
Best MMA Fighter ever v Massively Inflated Ego

It's been fun Chael but it's time to pay the piper !

Dermighty

Be like Nutella wrote: »

most excited I've been since Randy v Brock... for whatever reason... just remember foot tapping and not talking to anyone for about 10 mins before the fight... this is gona be worse... wonder what tunes the lads are comin out to...
This is truly a once and for all test of Silva's greatness... I know he's 38 but age hasn't affected him yet so age is no excuse so we should expect the best Silva ever... and Sonnen will require it... but if the best Silva ever turns up then Sonnen is getting hurt... real bad ! (probably not quite all limbs broken and die but everything up to that point

Talk v Talent
Hype v Greatness
Best MMA Fighter ever v Massively Inflated Ego

It's been fun Chael but it's time to pay the piper !

Sonnen has already proved that he's not all talk: Landing more strikes in the first round than any other fighter had in a full 15 minutes, putting Silva on his back longer than all other fighters combined....etc...

Fair enough your excited about the fight but you're talking complete ****.

Charlie Haughy

Very stacked card. As much as an ass Tito can be at times, ive always had a sort of soft spot for him, so hope he picks up the win. Be a nice send off for him. hope that turns into a brawl for a fight.

Letsdoit

Getting close now can't wait to watch this. Come on Sonnen!

PauloConn

As i had to give up my regular UPC package, I'm now ESPN-less. How much does it cost to get the fight on the UFC sight?
Reckon this card could actually be worth it.....

Dermighty

PauloConn wrote: »

As i had to give up my regular UPC package, I'm now ESPN-less. How much does it cost to get the fight on the UFC sight?
Reckon this card could actually be worth it.....

I have the UFC.TV subscription (6 months duration) and all the events are blacked out for me. So as far as I know you can't watch it through the site with the UFC TV subscription unless you live outside the countries it lists, or you use a proxy to watch it with, which are usually very slow, making it fairly unlikely it'd work.

I'm not sure if you can actually buy just the PPV of UFC 147 though, it'd be cool if you could.

If it turns out you can watch it through the UFC TV service then you're welcome to my login to watch it.

Mr. Manager

PauloConn wrote: »

As i had to give up my regular UPC package, I'm now ESPN-less. How much does it cost to get the fight on the UFC sight?
Reckon this card could actually be worth it.....

From UFC.TV

This event is blacked out in the UK, Scotland, Ireland, India, Greece and Italy

If you happen to live outside of those places, it's $44.99

I sincerely hope Malta doesn't get marked as being part of Italy

Leeg17

Weigh ins started just now on Facebook!

Tinie

Leeg17 wrote: »

Prelims started just now on Facebook!

Weigh ins you mean?

Mr. Manager

Anybody else surprised by the salaries for this one?

Silva - $200,000 flat fee
Sonnen - $50,000 to show, $50,000 to win

Ortiz - $250,000 flat fee
Griffin - $125,000 to show, $150,000 for the win

Cung Le - $150,000 flat fee
Cote - $21,000 to show and $21,000 to win.

Source

El Guapo!

I'm very surprised by Silvas pay. He's getting less than Tito!
And why is Cung Le getting so much?

Mr. Manager

Dean09 wrote: »

I'm very surprised by Silvas pay. He's getting less than Tito!
And why is Cung Le getting so much?

Yea this I just don't get! Maybe because he's a "rising film star" he could demand more :pac:

adamski8

Dean09 wrote: »

I'm very surprised by Silvas pay. He's getting less than Tito!
And why is Cung Le getting so much?

thought people said before silva get a huge chuck of PPV money. tito maybe isnt getting any of it.

Turbo_diesel

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Anybody else surprised by the salaries for this one?

Silva - $200,000 flat fee
Sonnen - $50,000 to show, $50,000 to win

Ortiz - $250,000 flat fee
Griffin - $125,000 to show, $150,000 for the win

Cung Le - $150,000 flat fee
Cote - $21,000 to show and $21,000 to win.

Source

Sonnen is gettin raped here?

MrStuffins

My guess about Cung Le's salary is that he was on MASSIVE money on his Strikeforce contract and Zuffa acquired it along with the rest of Strikeforce.

Logical Fallacy

Turbo_diesel wrote: »

Sonnen is gettin raped here?

Not at all, I'd say he is getting a nice PPV slice for the fight. The one thing I do respect about Sonnen is that he has never complained about his pay and has always stated that the UFC look after him well.

I imagine he gets a nice bonus check for this fight no matter what way it goes.

MrStuffins

Even when you forget the PPV back end, Sonnen is fighting to win $100k.

Silva, the unbeaten 14-0 World Champ is fighting to win $200k.

I don't see the issue!

Varied

Sonnen deserves every penny and more. He is responsible for a lot of PPV buys.

Insect Overlord

Is this on tonight/tomorrow morning? I've missed the last 6 months of UFC but I should be able to watch this one.

Leeg17

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Is this on tonight/tomorrow morning? I've missed the last 6 months of UFC but I should be able to watch this one.

It's on tonight, Facebook prelims start at 12am, UFC.tv prelims at 1am and main card on ESPN at 3am.

(I hope I have that right)

R.F.

Sounds about right. Also the event itself is 4 hours rather than the normal 3 hour

El Guapo!

I'm ridiculously excited about this fight! I cant wait for it.
I'm goin on holidays tonight and I'm not even excited about that. All I can think about is this fight!
I'll have to watch it on my phone in the airport but I don't even care. At least I get to see it. (Thanks again Lee! )
I just hope it lives up to all the hype.
And I hope it's over before I have to get on my flight!!

R.F.

I think it will be over within 2 rounds

Professey Chin

R.F. wrote: »

Sounds about right. Also the event itself is 4 hours rather than the normal 3 hour

With only a 6 fight main card (and 1 5 rounder) its gonna be a hard push for that if a couple of fights end quick

Oranage2

Madness the money Le is on when Cote is a massive favourite.


Havent heard much of Chael Sonnen but I can only assume he's going to get his ass kicked.

MrStuffins

Oranage2 wrote: »

Madness the money Le is on when Cote is a massive favourite.

I'm more surprised Le is the underdog!

This is gonna be a stand-up affair and, as much as I really like Cote, i can't see it going well for him!

Havent heard much of Chael Sonnen .......

It must be a hard life living under a rock :P

reganreggie

I cant wait for this card i said early silva by decision but the rest of the card is top notch too. I hope tito leaves on a win as at one time he was the man and i love watch chung le so i hope he pulls off a highlight reel knockout.

stiffler123

Silva looked pissed at the weigh ins. Do not see this ending well for Chael.

Mr. CooL ICE

This is bollocks. Why can't the main event start nowwww???

ASJ112

What time do the prelims start at anybody know ?

tvercetti

ASJ112 wrote: »

What time do the prelims start at anybody know ?

Leeg17 wrote: »

It's on tonight, Facebook prelims start at 12am, UFC.tv prelims at 1am and main card on ESPN at 3am.

(I hope I have that right)

:rolleyes:

Leeg17

Anyone having problems watching the FB prelims? Keep getting a 'sign in' message even though I've signed in using my ufc.tv details...

scudzilla

Leeg17 wrote: »

Anyone having problems watching the FB prelims? Keep getting a 'sign in' message even though I've signed in using my ufc.tv details...

i just signed into FB as normal, chose the UFC page and pressed play, working a treat

omniscient_toad

It's on Youtube as well which I was oblivious to until now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q01DrznHAjw&newstate=e7d668ef1495f1f18c48c997bed2c7f2

el dude

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

The one thing I do respect about Sonnen is that he has never complained about his pay and has always stated that the UFC look after him well.

Not sure why you'd see that as something to be respected tbh. Some fighters get paid crap for what they do, and the money they help the UFC rake in so their complaints are valid. Not everyone is gets as well looked after as Chael Sonnen.

Look at the money Cote is on, someone who's fought for a title and had some really exciting fights. Gets canned, goes out and fights for peanuts probably, wins his way back in and that's the best they can do for him?

scudzilla

Can't get better than that, started my Fantasy league off with a perfect and used a Boost

stiffler123

Leeg17 wrote: »

Anyone having problems watching the FB prelims? Keep getting a 'sign in' message even though I've signed in using my ufc.tv details...

Nope, working fine for me.

scudzilla

scudzilla wrote: »

Can't get better than that, started my Fantasy league off with a perfect and used a Boost

You're crazy boosting worked wonders. I'd never boost a toss up fight like that.
Suppose that's the difference between 1 and 9 though :pac:

scudzilla

Deleted User wrote: »

You're crazy boosting worked wonders. I'd never boost a toss up fight like that.
Suppose that's the difference between 1 and 9 though :pac:

That's why i'm pretty clear at the top, using my boosts, adds 100 points a fight, no bother, and with a choice of gaining 100 or losing 50 it's a no brainer.

most of my boosts tonight are the undercard, too many close fights on the main

Kurz

Jesus, Alessio was fairly wound up there at the end.

scudzilla

This is gonna end quick, with Fukuda getting ko'd

Kurz

Phillippou's corner sounds like a scene from Goodfellas.

Charlie Haughy

Nasty eye poke