SEC Advance payment for assistant examiners

Rapunzels

I attended conference on Tues and Wed last week. Just wondering if anyone has received their advance?
Thanks

happywithlife

i attended conference on mon and tues and still haven't gotten mine
ah sure, too busy marking to spend it anyway

Rapunzels

happywithlife wrote: »

i attended conference on mon and tues and still haven't gotten mine
ah sure, too busy marking to spend it anyway

As usual, mine is long spent before I receive it! Will you let me know when you receive yours? It would make sense that you get yours before I get mine.
Thanks!

rainbowtrout

They normally take a few weeks to come throught, you mightn't get it for at least another fortnight.

Rapunzels

rainbowtrout wrote: »

They normally take a few weeks to come throught, you mightn't get it for at least another fortnight.

I've always gotten it within the 5 days..? hopefully soon

rainbowtrout

last few years it's been a couple of weeks for me and anyone else I've known.. you must be lucky!

doc_17

So 280 scripts, 4.80 per script, 1 day conference, I'd say I won't clear 800euro!

It'll hardly be worth it in a couple of years time!

happywithlife

agree 100% with you there doc
i usually do work with them mid-year as well but have to my husband, this year was the last year -- so not worth it the last couple of years - just did it out of habit last year i suppose - won't be doing it next year -- a lot of work at a busy time in school anyway for a much reduced payment in recent years ..
has anyone had problems with the wrong level in their bundles this year? i have and apparently wasn' the only one from my conference either ... was wondering was there a lot of new superintendent's this year? are the more experienced people just not doing it anymore cos it's not worth their while?

doc_17

62% ( assuming you have a FT job) is what you will lose after taxes are taken. I'm not gonna be killed working(only correcting FL) but I'd imagine unless you are correcting something like English (yes much harder but so much more worth it financially) you will be wondering whether to continue on with it.

I haven't had a problem with my script levels

Inspector Coptoor

€4.80 per script????

I'm getting €9.72 for OL LC Bio.

Will pick up about 330 scripts tomorrow.

I moved SRCOP & tax credits to the SEC so I'll see some of the money.

doc_17

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

€4.80 per script????

I'm getting €9.72 for OL LC Bio.

Will pick up about 330 scripts tomorrow.

I moved SRCOP & tax credits to the SEC so I'll see some of the money.

How long does it take you to correct a script?

And what does HL biology get per script?

rulesrules

doc_17 wrote: »

How long does it take you to correct a script?

And what does HL biology get per script?

I thought the payment is all the same , im getting €4.90

rainbowtrout

rulesrules wrote: »

I thought the payment is all the same , im getting €4.90

no, different rates for different exams. some papers take a lot more work than others.

Inspector Coptoor

doc_17 wrote: »

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

€4.80 per script????

I'm getting €9.72 for OL LC Bio.

Will pick up about 330 scripts tomorrow.

I moved SRCOP & tax credits to the SEC so I'll see some of the money.

How long does it take you to correct a script?

And what does HL biology get per script?

It depends.
Sometimes takes an hour, sometimes 10 seconds depending on how much/little is written.

HL Bio is about €13.50 I think

Mad Martina

Advance payment of 1100 euro in my account today when I checked online banking. I am correcting LC higher English. Conference was on Mon & Tuesday,18/19 of June. Unfortunately too busy to spend it :mad:

doc_17

Remember reading something here last year about someone correcting maths that got a 1200 advance payment. By the time they had finished and taxes etc taken they actually owed the SEC money

Zizigirl

I received €900 advance today. I'm correcting JC Higher Maths and conference was on 20th June. Never too busy to spend money:-)

doc_17

Zizigirl wrote: »

I received €900 advance today. I'm correcting JC Higher Maths and conference was on 20th June. Never too busy to spend money:-)

What's the rate for JC Higher Math?

Zizigirl

€5.80. I wish it were more!

doc_17

Zizigirl wrote: »

€5.80. I wish it were more!

Considering its 4.80 for JCFL that's fairly sh*t. I won't be in any hurry to move up. How long would it take you to correct one?

Zizigirl

doc_17 wrote: »

Zizigirl wrote: »

€5.80. I wish it were more!

Considering its 4.80 for JCFL that's fairly sh*t. I won't be in any hurry to move up. How long would it take you to correct one?

I think if you can get more Ord Level papers, ie nearly 500, then it's worthwhile staying at Ord level as you can get so quick at them. The big drawback with higher level is they do not write on test paper. However this will change with project maths.

At the moment it's safe to say on average I am correcting six an hour. So ten minutes a script. However, the revisions are a nightmare because you need to locate question or part of questions in the answer booklet and that takes forever.

I found Ord level so easy but I do think it's worth the hassle at higher level To be able to progress to leaving cert in a few years.

jane1234

Hi just been following this thread in regard to correcting and payments. Would you all recommend correcting? I due to start on Wed and its my first time. JC Spanish hl. How many papers should I expect first time?

doc_17

jane1234 wrote: »

Hi just been following this thread in regard to correcting and payments. Would you all recommend correcting? I due to start on Wed and its my first time. JC Spanish hl. How many papers should I expect first time?

Suppose it depends on the subject, level and fee per script. Also for teachers without full-time hours it might be more worthwhile for experience and you get to keep more of your money.

What are you correcting?

jane1234

Correcting JC Spanish 5.81 a paper.

Rapunzels

Still no advance? 2 full weeks waiting now, so much for 'within 5 days of the conclusion of the conference'.. I wonder how they'd be if I was late with grades?!

doc_17

Rapunzels wrote: »

Still no advance? 2 full weeks waiting now, so much for 'within 5 days of the conclusion of the conference'.. I wonder how they'd be if I was late with grades?!

Cutbacks are starting to show now. Thre were probably retirements in the SEC and they are starting to show their effects now

Chris68

Rapunzels wrote: »

Still no advance? 2 full weeks waiting now, so much for 'within 5 days of the conclusion of the conference'.. I wonder how they'd be if I was late with grades?!

Got my advance at the weekend - €900. Conference was on Wed 20th.

gagiteebo

Yeah my conference was 2 weeks ago and still no advance! Good job I haven't time to leave the house as I've nothing to spend

happywithlife

my conference was mon/tues the 17/18th june ( i think those dates are right - i;m du la ly now i'm out of the school routine ) ... still no advance pay ! actually doesn't bother me too much at the mo' but still .... 5 days my ....

NoelleTh

Got called in to correct at the last minute and just wondering should I of done something specific about tax credits, I'm not getting paid through the summer...

thefasteriwalk

Zizigirl wrote: »

€5.80. I wish it were more!

That sounds a bit mad. I'm getting 7.77 for OL JC Religion. There's a journal with it, but that's little to no effort really.

rainbowtrout

happywithlife wrote: »

my conference was mon/tues the 17/18th june ( i think those dates are right - i;m du la ly now i'm out of the school routine ) ... still no advance pay ! actually doesn't bother me too much at the mo' but still .... 5 days my ....

It hasn't been paid within 5 days for at least 3 years now. The guidelines probably just haven't been updated. I did practical work for the SEC in May and had my expenses form submitted around mid May to them. Got a text from a few friends this morning who got paid for the practical work. Checked my account, hadn't got paid. Rang them, said they couldn't find my form. Then they rang me back saying they found it but because it came in after all the others it was put aside as they did other subjects in batch.

I wouldn't mind but I had mine in early, earlier than any of my friends who were paid. Clearly they just forgot to process mine, so I was told I'd probably get it in a few weeks. :mad:

Rapunzels

They state on the letter of appointment that the advance will be paid 'within 5 days of the conclusion of the conference'. It's annoying to be left waiting. I called them today and they said it'd be paid by the end of the week.
I'm more annoyed at the expenses of the conference not being covered than anything else. If they'd said 2 and a half weeks then fine, but petrol and an overnight stay hit the bank balance hard, and I was factoring in the advance.

happywithlife

i think they assume everybody is still being paid for the summer so shure what does it matter ? :cool:
i wish !
i've been there when i've had to borrow the money to attend the overnight conference - if they say 5 days it should be 5 days -- otherwise change the darn form ...
doesn't matter to me now but i understand when younger teachers are stuck like that ...
coincidentally, anytime i've rang them in the past with a query over getting paid, even when they've said it'd take a week or so .. it'd magically appear in my bank within a couple of days ...
now i hope nobody is with Ulster bank cos that's a whole other ball game ! :eek:

rose23

I got my advance of €400 5 days after the conference.. Just wondering when do we usually get paid the rest?

Inspector Coptoor

rose23 wrote: »

I got my advance of €400 5 days after the conference.. Just wondering when do we usually get paid the rest?

It's usually October.

€400 advance?
Why such a small amount?

I got €1200 last year, €1100 this year.

doc_17

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

rose23 wrote: »

I got my advance of €400 5 days after the conference.. Just wondering when do we usually get paid the rest?

It's usually October.

€400 advance?
Why such a small amount?

I got €1200 last year, €1100 this year.

Suppose it depends on what you correct.
I got €400 as well. Got 280 JCFL papers at 4.70 a paper. By the time you take 60% tax and such out of it there won't be much more to get altogether.

Inspector Coptoor

doc_17 wrote: »

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

rose23 wrote: »

I got my advance of €400 5 days after the conference.. Just wondering when do we usually get paid the rest?

It's usually October.

€400 advance?
Why such a small amount?

I got €1200 last year, €1100 this year.

Suppose it depends on what you correct.
I got €400 as well. Got 280 JCFL papers at 4.70 a paper. By the time you take 60% tax and such out of it there won't be much more to get altogether.

Fair enough.
I have 314 LC Bio papers at €9.72 per paper.

rainbowtrout

rose23 wrote: »

I got my advance of €400 5 days after the conference.. Just wondering when do we usually get paid the rest?

October usually.

rose23

Well Im correcting LCA French, have 400 scripts at 4.82 each. How much should I expect to bring home after tax? I havent a clue how to work it out/estimate it even!

doc_17

rose23 wrote: »

Well Im correcting LCA French, have 400 scripts at 4.82 each. How much should I expect to bring home after tax? I havent a clue how to work it out/estimate it even!

Depends on whether or not you are a full time teacher and how much you ate earning. If you are on full hours you'll be taxed at the higher rate of 42%. You'll also have to pay pension related deductions of around 15%. You also have to pay the USC I think of 10% as well. So all in all you'll be luck to take home 40% of what you earn, if you have a full time job.

So 4.82 per paper by 400 = 1928 and after tax should come out at about 900 if you're lucky. You'll also get expenses re mileage and your conference fee and these will be tax free.

If I'm wrong about any of this then some of the more experienced people can correct me as I've never corrected before.

rose23

doc_17 wrote: »

Depends on whether or not you are a full time teacher and how much you ate earning. If you are on full hours you'll be taxed at the higher rate of 42%. You'll also have to pay pension related deductions of around 15%. You also have to pay the USC I think of 10% as well. So all in all you'll be luck to take home 40% of what you earn, if you have a full time job.

So 4.82 per paper by 400 = 1928 and after tax should come out at about 900 if you're lucky. You'll also get expenses re mileage and your conference fee and these will be tax free.

If I'm wrong about any of this then some of the more experienced people can correct me as I've never corrected before.

Ok that makes sense, thanks for taking the time to explain. I was covering a Maternity Leave last year (22 hours) so Im not getting paid for the Summer. Dunno does that make a difference. Least I've an idea of how much I will get now anyways!

rainbowtrout

doc_17 wrote: »

Depends on whether or not you are a full time teacher and how much you ate earning. If you are on full hours you'll be taxed at the higher rate of 42%. You'll also have to pay pension related deductions of around 15%. You also have to pay the USC I think of 10% as well. So all in all you'll be luck to take home 40% of what you earn, if you have a full time job.

So 4.82 per paper by 400 = 1928 and after tax should come out at about 900 if you're lucky. You'll also get expenses re mileage and your conference fee and these will be tax free.

If I'm wrong about any of this then some of the more experienced people can correct me as I've never corrected before.

Conference fee is taxed I think. Only tax free elements are expenses for mileage, overnight allowance/subsistence and telephone calls, postage etc.

doc_17

If you don't have an employer at the minute then you should transfer your tax credits to the SEC. That way you should end up paying less tax

rose23

doc_17 wrote: »

If you don't have an employer at the minute then you should transfer your tax credits to the SEC. That way you should end up paying less tax

Yep I did that alright so hopefully I wont get taxed too much! Thanks for advice anyways!

happywithlife

ah here now!
i am actually finished the darn marking and still no advance !!
my conference would have been early on (18th june) and still no pay -- so here i am in the process of filling in my expense form and said i'd ring to see what the story was ... what a coincidence ! its leaving their account tonight so will be in mine by the morning !
5 days my eye ...
at least i'll be free now to spend it
happy days !

rainbowtrout

Got my advance today!

happywithlife

ditto
spend half of it last week on the promise of it coming ...
new lawn mower for himself

RealJohn

Conference was a week ago last Thirsday. Got the advance today so what, 8 working days? That's alright I think.

spring21

I finised the corrections and I rang the revenue to put me back on the amount of credits I was before but they said that I have to send in a p45 from the state examination . Now I know that we get paid in Oct so when do we actually get a p45?

rainbowtrout

spring21 wrote: »

I finised the corrections and I rang the revenue to put me back on the amount of credits I was before but they said that I have to send in a p45 from the state examination . Now I know that we get paid in Oct so when do we actually get a p45?

You don't get a P45 from the SEC. You'll probably have to ring and ask for one.