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Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    I've given it a fair few spins now and on the whole, Im not loving it. Elements of it are OK so I still hold out hope for the rest of the album, but generally speaking - I don't like the chorus and the upbeat nature of it. Thematically it's a bit all been said and done before (FOABP).


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭Mushy




  • Registered Users Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Seems a new sing is landing Monday, 2 teasers put up on socials last 2 days. This comes a few months after Porcupine 3 was listed as a company with Steven and Gavin listed, think Richard too (no Colin).

    Steven had mentioned a guitar based project was in the works, along with something else. Would assume this to be the guitar based one anyway, he was very secretive on that one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    New album and tour as good as confirmed 😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭One Who Waits...




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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Tour dates there, new song here: https://youtu.be/AW5v4Ohxk5k



  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Wow, had long since given up on Porcupine Tree ever releasing anything new.


    Can't say the new song really grabs me tbh, may take a few listens.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Im the opposite - instant dopamine hit for me. Gavin's drumming, Richard's soundscapes ... PT are back. 😎 Now the panic starts on Weds morning's Pre-Sale for Berlin tix



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭One Who Waits...


    Can't stop listening to this track. It's rare any song / album grabs my attention like this. Never thought PT would return.

    Hope the bass playing (SW himself?) isn't this aggressive on the rest of the album though. Pity Colin isn't involved in this.



  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Wouldn't be surprised if that's Nick Beggs on bass.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭One Who Waits...


    So... Colin Edwin's not playing on the album and John Wesley has confirmed he won't be involved with the tour. Kinda dampens my excitement about the album / tour. Hope SW hasn't been a dick to the 2 lads by just not bothering to include them in the project.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Passenger


    The Bass sounds like it's played with a pick. Interested to see who the mystery Bassist is though the album credits SW as performing bass.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Tickets for the tour opener in Berlin secured 😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,149 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    I'd say Steven played bass on album, but obv won't live.

    Hoping for 2nd London date to be announced, need to commit to a show.



  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Vital Transformation


    Just got my ticket for Wembley.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭blackwave


    Tickets got for Katowice! was not many seats left when I went to order.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭rednik


    Got tickets for London, just a year to go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭blackwave


    Tickets available in the pit for Katowice in Poland. There's some direct flights from Dublin but not that frequent, better off to fly into Krakow which is close by for anyone interested.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Another new song from the upcoming album ... hearing The Incident in this .... bring it on



  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    New albums out today 😎



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Passenger




  • Subscribers Posts: 41,061 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    First thoughts?

    I haven't had a chance to stream it yet



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Passenger


    It certainly leans into the mellower, proggier side of the band. The prominent riffs of their latter albums are absent.



  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    It's not their best work (And tbf, The Incident was relatively weak as well) but I'm enjoying it. Between this and his latest solo album I do think the quality has dipped a bit on SW's work lately.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    I'm enjoying the album, glad to have new music from the band and looking forward to the tour. I don't think it stands up to some of their classic albums (FOABP, Deadwing, In Absentia etc) but it's a strong 7/10. I will say I'm not liking the art work - it's all a bit IKEA catalog.


    1.   "Harridan" - Loved it since it was released. Felt like they picked up where they left off.

    2.   "Of the New Day"   Great song, one of the better PT mellower tunes.

    3.   "Rats Return"   - Pretty good - typical PT song - nothing wrong with that.

    4.   "Dignity"   Not getting the hype for this. Have read reviews and online comments saying it's a highlight on the album. I find it a bit bog standard.

    5.   "Herd Culling"   Love this - much better as the extended version rather than the edit they originally released as a single / taster.

    6.   "Walk the Plank"   - Barbieri's soundscapes are very Deadwing / The Incident but if you removed Harrison from it , I think this songs sounds too much like a cast off from Wilson's The Future Bites sessions. Weak track on the album for me.

    7.   "Chimera's Wreck"   - THE highlight - excellent.


    Bonus tracks on Deluxe version

    8.   "Population Three" (instrumental) - Fairly standard instrumental workout - its fine.

    9.   "Never Have"   Wilson   - Strong track - should have been on the standard album.

    10.   "Love in the Past Tense" - One of my favourites from the whole release - should have been on the standard album.


    Final thoughts - It should have been a 10 track album. Holding back 3 tunes to release as a deluxe version is nonsense and leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Standard CD is €14 , deluxe version with the 3 tracks on a bonus disc & art book & extra Blu Ray 5.1 dolby mix blah blah blah was €66.


    I'll buy the standard version and burn a 10 song CD for the car.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Final, Final thoughts - I think this is Closure , not Continuation. I'm not convinced by Wilson's enthusiasm in interviews about the reunion. Personally I think he took a big financial hit on The Future Bites / cancelled tour and PT is guaranteed income, so he kind of reluctantly went back to it during lockdown.

    It's out now, it will sell well and I'm sure the tour will be a success but after that I think he will then go back to solo releases.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Saw Porcupine Tree on Fri in Berlin - absolutely phenomenal. Setlist, visuals, sound - amazing and the band were tight as fcuk.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭rednik


    London's only a couple of weeks away, you just made it better. Thanks Ray.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭RayCon


    Enjoy rednik - I reckon you'll be blow away. I wish I was going to another date on the tour.



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