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Why are you an atheist?

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    #632
    Zombrex
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    God is real.

    Can provide a test to determine the difference between a universe where God is real, and a universe were God is not real?


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    #633
    II 2FAST2C II
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Or even the title?

    Touce :p


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    #634
    II 2FAST2C II
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    Zombrex wrote: »
    Can provide a test to determine the difference between a universe where God is real, and a universe were God is not real?

    No such thing as a universe where God is not real


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    #635
    coffee_cake
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    No such thing as a universe where God is not real

    He asked for a test, not a reiteration of an unsupported statement


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    #636
    II 2FAST2C II
    Site Banned Posts: 104 ✭✭II 2FAST2C II


    bluewolf wrote: »
    He asked for a test, not a reiteration of an unsupported statement

    Well
    Why don't you provide me a test?


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    #637
    Zombrex
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    No such thing as a universe where God is not real
    I don't think you understood the question.

    Taking a non God example. There is no such thing as a universe were electrons are not real. But scientists still determined a test to tell the difference, and the conclusion was that they are real. The conclusion was that electrons are real.

    So again, can provide a test to determine the difference between a universe where God is real, and a universe were God is not real (even if you suppose that such a universe would not be, just as is the case with a universe were electrons don't exist)

    The answer will be a universe that is a particular way, as opposed to a universe that is different or could not exist (your non-God universe which you claim cannot be).

    But doesn't mean you don't require the test.


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    #638
    oldrnwisr
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    God is real.

    Which god?


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    #639
    Zombrex
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    Well
    Why don't you provide me a test?

    How would she provide the test, you are the one making the claim?


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    #640
    II 2FAST2C II
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    Ok
    If God is not real then did you expect to a life form to just pop out of no where
    For a perfect human body be born out of no where
    Big bang theory where it was a big bang and everything was there now that is what I find hard to believe
    It's like me clicking my finger's and woosh!!


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    #641
    II 2FAST2C II
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    Zombrex wrote: »
    How would she provide the test, you are the one making the claim?

    YOLO


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    #642
    Zombrex
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    Ok
    If God is not real then did you expect to a life form to just pop out of no where
    For a perfect human body be born out of no where
    Big bang theory where it was a big bang and everything was there now that is what I find hard to believe
    It's like me clicking my finger's and woosh!!

    I'm not asking you what you believe or what you find hard to believe. That is irrelevant (as something like quantum mechanics demonstrates, something that is almost impossible to understand, let alone believe, but is still true)

    I'm getting a strong sense you don't understand the question being put to you. Maybe read up on the concept in science of "falsifiability" and then come back and try and answer the question.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability


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    #643
    Zombrex
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    YOLO

    Indeed. Which makes it such a shame that some people waste there only one.


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    #644
    II 2FAST2C II
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    Zombrex wrote: »
    Indeed. Which makes it such a shame that some people waste there only one.

    I know
    But is excluding after life
    (for me anyways ;) don't know what you are planning to do when you are dead :cool:)


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    #645
    coffee_cake
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    Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar?
    I DON'T KNOW SO IT MUST BE GOD


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    #646
    seamus
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    II 2FAST2C II wrote: »
    don't know what you are planning to do when you are dead :cool:
    You see planning for what you are going to do when you die is like dreaming about what you will spend your euromillions winnings on.

    Great for a bit of escapism but ultimately a waste of your time. When we're dead, we're gone. Don't waste the time you do have preparing for the time you won't have.


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    #647
    Turtwig
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar?
    I DON'T KNOW SO IT MUST BE GOD

    Your cookie jar seems to get stolen from a lot. :p
    (Might I suggest a more realistic suspects list?)


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    #648
    coffee_cake
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    Of course it's not realistic. That's the point :cool:


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    #649
    Turtwig
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Of course it's not realistic. That's the point :cool:

    You want people to keep stealing cookies from you?:confused::p


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    #650
    coffee_cake
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    Jernal wrote: »
    You want people to keep stealing cookies from you?:confused::p

    Yes, they're filled with logic and tastiness

    This way I can sit around flailing in confusion blaming god without ever putting in any effort to actually obtain information on the real culprits or do anything constructive whatsoever!


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    #651
    Turtwig
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Yes, they're filled with logic and tastiness

    So you want devious schemers and robbers to get all the logic?


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    #652
    coffee_cake
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    Jernal wrote: »
    So you want devious schemers and robbers to get all the logic?


    So shut up jernal :mad:




    :pac:


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    #653
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    bluewolf wrote: »
    So shut up jernal :mad:




    :pac:

    Now, now no need to get tetchy.

    tumblr_lvde0usdsA1r653xto1_500.jpg


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    #654
    Bannasidhe
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar?
    I DON'T KNOW SO IT MUST BE GOD

    No. Sorry. That was me. :o


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    #655
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    No. Sorry. That was me. :o

    See what your 'logic cookies' did blue? You are directly responsible for the ghey onslaught that is destroying our societal fabric - bloody rainbow patterns!


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    #656
    Bannasidhe
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    No. Sorry. That was me. :o

    They were devilicious with a yummy logic centre,


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    #657
    Kinski
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar?
    I DON'T KNOW SO IT MUST BE GOD

    Believers don't blame God for things. They take comfort from their faith. I don't think I could have made it through my own missing cookie travails were it not for God's love. And I know the cookies have gone to a better place and I'll see them again someday...except for that one pistachio and raisin cookie which was evil.


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    #658
    Bannasidhe
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    Kinski wrote: »
    Believers don't blame God for things. They take comfort from their faith. I don't think I could have made it through my own missing cookie travails were it not for God's love. And I know the cookies have gone to a better place and I'll see them again someday...except for that one pistachio and raisin cookie which was evil.

    It was.

    What the hell are you doing leaving cookies like that lying around in a cookie jar in your kitchen in your house where anyone could access them? WELL? :mad:

    I had wind for a bloody lunar cycle after that.

    The other cookies did go to a better place.

    Cork.

    :D


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    #659
    Turtwig
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    So, um, are atheists atheist then because their cookies were stolen? Unable to come to terms with it all they take out their anger on God and deny His existence.
    God, of course, reacts by stealing more of their cookies - righteously, so!


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    #660
    johnny_knoxvile
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    I'm an atheist 'cos talking burning bushes, gods with bears for hench men, and people who come down from heaven to have themselves tortured and killed to prove a point is a bit f**kin' mad to say the least...

    Harry Potter is more plausable.


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    #661
    Geomy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy


    As long as your not one of those reddit atheists you'll be ok lol

    I know there's a member here called reddit no offence to that member...

    I'm not an atheist or a thiest,don't want to be a dlzk or goodie twoshoes,I cant be associated with either lol

    Agnostic Atheists are in

    :)


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