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Obtaining firearms license for Air Rifle

  • 18-06-2012 3:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭


    So I want to try obtain a firearms license for an air rifle for vermin etc..

    What should I put on the form? Would I need landowners permission? Whereas I won't be on other peoples land just my own, which is a house on an acre of land. Is it possible to obtain one for an air rifle without being part of a club?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    Bluegrass wrote: »
    So I want to try obtain a firearms license for an air rifle for vermin etc..

    What should I put on the form? Would I need landowners permission? Whereas I won't be on other peoples land just my own, which is a house on an acre of land. Is it possible to obtain one for an air rifle without being part of a club?

    You will most likely have to go an get more permissions of farmers. an acre in your house wont be enough to obtain the licence.
    On the form put down you tend to use it for shooting vermin..rabbits..rats etc.
    You dont have to join a club either no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    They are seen in the same light as "proper" firearms and can be substituted as a like for like basis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Bluegrass


    Contacting farmers, how many signatures would I need is it a case of the more the merrier? I only know one farmer out by my home. Do I need an individual license, say I wanted to change from an air rifle to a proper rifle would I have to go through all the hoops again?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    The more the merrier on the permission front. And yes you need a licence for each firearm, 80 quid a pop and it'll last for three years. The like for like thing is down to your super some will let you sub an air rifle for a rimfire some won't the general thing with it is air rifle-air rifle, rimfire - rimfire, foxing cals-foxing cals, deer gun-deer gun. etc... some may let you change for whatever but they all will make the rules up to suit themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Bluegrass wrote: »
    Contacting farmers, how many signatures would I need is it a case of the more the merrier? I only know one farmer out by my home.

    One may do you, two or three is better. Depends on the individual dealing with your application and what will satisfy him
    say I wanted to change from an air rifle to a proper rifle would I have to go through all the hoops again?

    Pretty much.

    You will have to do more paperwork and visit the Gardai. Going from an air rifle to a rimfire or centerfire rifle will probably not be seen as a like for like swap so a substitution will be out I'd imagine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Bluegrass


    Cheers for the reply. Just filling out the form here it says "Source of Firearm" and where I purchased it. Surely that's for renewals? I can't possibly buy a gun without a license for what I intend to purchase so what do I do here, should I put a deposit on said gun before finishing the form or just put any PULSE dealer I.D

    Thanks (:o first time filling form out)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    You must first find the gun you want, put a deposit on it and get the make, model and caliber of said gun to put on the form..you'll also need the RFD's pulse I.D. number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭Bluegrass


    Would permission of one farmer be enough?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    Bluegrass wrote: »
    Would permission of one farmer be enough?

    How many acres? It may be but your firearms officer will be able to tell you that as it varies from station to station.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    It depends on how many acres he has but mainly it's down to your local super. If in doubt go and have a chat with your firearms officer and tell him what you want and what you want it for [vermin control/hunting] and see what he says. I'd say once you had permission for 80 or more you'd be grand.:)


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    From a previous post of mine about a run down of the basics needed for first time applications.
    Ezridax wrote: »
    In relation to adequacy for holding a firearm. You need to have a clean record, as in no criminal convictions, be of good character, known in the community, responsible, and most importantly have a good and valid reason for wanting the firearm in the first place. Not all of these are necessary or essential, but if you can tick most or all the boxes you are off to a good start.

    In relation to the applying side of things you need;
    • A firearm, and a deposit put on it.
    • An FCA1 firearm license application form.
    • Two referees that can vouch to your character. Not family.
    • Photographs X2.
    • Firearm details on a letter from the dealer.
    • Land permision or range/club membership details.
    • Some other personal details.
    • Fill in the form and submit it to your local Firearms Officer (FO).
    • Wait and if you are successful you will recieve word within 3 months.
    • Get your grant letter to say you have been successful.
    • Bring it to your local post office and pay the €80 for a 3 year license.
    • License comes in post a few days later.
    • Bring licnese to dealers and collect your new firearm.
    • Enjoy.
    For anyone applying for their first firearm proof of competence must be provided. In some circumstances your training in the FCA(RDF) may be suitable, however should it not be enough there are a number of ranges/organisations running safety courses every month. Attend one of these, pass and submit your certificate with your application.

    Either of these will suffice. if you wish to start hunting and save the expense of mebership then use the land permissions to apply for the rifle. If target work will be the primary use of the rifle then join an authorised range and submit your membership details and a copy of your range Id with your application. If you are using the land permissions make sure the letter covers area or as much detail as possible.

    This will suffice. All you need is a letter of permission from your parents to store the firearm in ther home. A safe, trigger lock will be necessary, but these are minimum standards of security and the Super of each district is free to impose any further restrcitions he feels are warranted.

    A bolt action .223 rifle is not restrcited. If it were semi automatic then yes it would be. There are a number of things that can clasify a rifle as restricted, but as long as it is a bolt action .223 then you are okay.

    Choose the type of firearm make/model, etc carfully. Get as much info as possible before buying. Do not try and rush the process. Sometimes the "i want it now" can take over and we start to panic or cut corners to get the license and gun as quick as possible. It will take as long as it takes so be patient and take things as they come.

    If you need any more help, muself and the lads and ladies here would be delighted to help.

    Good luck.
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