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Is Atheism a religion?

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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Atheism doesn't require you to be active about it. Simply not believing any gods exist is enough. There are active Atheists out there but many have good reason for it whether it be just another side to supernatural claims that they feel the need to debunk (mostly talking faith healers here) or because some religion or other enjoys preferential treatment or even to let some people who know no better through tight indoctrination that there are others out there of do not believe and it's ok not to. It doesn't mean every Atheist should have a similar passion for these fights.

    I didn't say I did not believe that a God exists and I did not say that I did .


  • Moderators Posts: 51,745 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    I don't really care much about either God or Atheism .
    DuPLeX wrote: »
    A dictionary is simply a book..... Just like the Bible is :D

    don't care much about God, eh? :P

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    koth wrote: »
    don't care much about God, eh? :P

    Did I not just say that ? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Calibos


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    I don't really care much about either God or Atheism .

    Oh look, another one of those Holier Superior than Thou types :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Calibos wrote: »
    Oh look, another one of those Holier Superior than Thou types :D

    atheists.png


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    One is a work of fiction and the other isn't. Guess which is which...

    I suppose that depends on which is your religion .... to me they are both books .... If you want totell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice .


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Galvasean wrote: »
    atheists.png

    Trying to claw back a little superiority are we ? :cool:
    or is it that Atheists are superior to Christians but nobody can be superior to Atheists ?


  • Moderators Posts: 51,745 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    I suppose that depends on which is your religion .... to me they are both books .... If you want totell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice .

    depends on your religion? what religion do you have to be to agree with the definitions contained within a dictionary?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    Trying to claw back a little superiority are we ? :cool:

    Nah, just bringing some humour to the table as you seem to have run out of arguments so are trying to look as neutral as possible.
    It's not working.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    I didn't say I did not believe that a God exists and I did not say that I did .
    Would you like a little help deciding?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    koth wrote: »
    depends on your religion? what religion do you have to be to agree with the definitions contained within a dictionary?

    I'm thinking of starting a new religion. Our holy book shall be the Encyclopaedia Britannica and the eating of ice cream made with vanilla essence shall be an abomination.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    or is it that Atheists are superior to Christians but nobody can be superior to Atheists ?

    Ah, I see your ninja edit.
    I don't see why you bothered considering all it shows is that you didn't get the joke. Bravo.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    koth wrote: »
    depends on your religion? what religion do you have to be to agree with the definitions contained within a dictionary?

    My Point is ........... A Book is a Book .every book is just someone else's Ideas in print .. You Choose how you process that


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    I suppose that depends on which is your religion .... to me they are both books .... If you want totell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice .

    Why the hell are we wasting our time with someone who can't seem to tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction? :confused:

    I believe in the existence of the Gruffalo - I read about him in a book so he must exist.:rolleyes:


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Ah, I see your ninja edit.
    I don't see why you bothered considering all it shows is that you didn't get the joke. Bravo.

    Go on then......... Explain the Joke


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    My Point is ........... A Book is a Book .every book is just someone else's Ideas in print .. You Choose how you process that

    Literature wept...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Ah, I see your ninja edit.
    I don't see why you bothered considering all it shows is that you didn't get the joke. Bravo.
    s/he is too superior to have humour!
    DuPLeX wrote: »
    Go on then......... Explain the Joke
    that aaaalways makes the joke funnier


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,444 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    My Point is ........... A Book is a Book .every book is just someone else's Ideas in print .. You Choose how you process that

    I choose to process your post as nonsense.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    My Point is ........... A Book is a Book .every book is just someone else's Ideas in print .. You Choose how you process that

    You can choose how you process it but that doesn't mean you choose correctly.

    If I read a textbook on algebra and choose to process it in such a way that disagrees with the findings of the book, then I'm more than likely processing it wrong.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,745 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    My Point is ........... A Book is a Book .every book is just someone else's Ideas in print .. You Choose how you process that

    but that's not what you originally said. You were suggesting that a person had to be a member of a religious group to accept information contained within a dictionary.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    Go on then......... Explain the Joke

    Considering your complete contributions to this thread have consisted of little more than missing various points I don't think it would be worth taking the time. XKCD is a very popular web comic with thousands, if not millions of regular readers. Do yourself a favour and read more of their stuff. Worst case scenario; you may end up enjoying yourself.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Why the hell are we wasting our time with someone who can't seem to tell the difference between fiction and non-fiction? :confused:

    I believe in the existence of the Gruffalo - I read about him in a book so he must exist.:rolleyes:

    excellent arguments there .. very thoughtfull .. But a lot of people supposedly read Mein campf was it fiction or non fiction ?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    excellent arguments there .. very thoughtfull .. But a lot of people supposedly read Mein campf was it fiction or non fiction ?

    That was a thing called polemic. I would say if that term is unfamiliar you could look it up in a dictionary but ....


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    koth wrote: »
    but that's not what you originally said. You were suggesting that a person had to be a member of a religious group to accept information contained within a dictionary.
    No it is not what I said .
    But if you feel the need to use a Dictionary as a book of choice to back up your religious belief system (I did not mention Group) then you have got a religious belief system based in some part on a book which (as I explained ) is simply someone else's Ideas ....


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    That was a thing called polemic. I would say if that term is unfamiliar you could look it up in a dictionary but ....

    :rolleyes:


  • Moderators Posts: 51,745 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    No it is not what I said .
    But if you feel the need to use a Dictionary as a book of choice to back up your religious belief system (I did not mention Group) then you have got a religious belief system based in some part on a book which (as I explained ) is simply someone else's Ideas ....

    Let's review the exchange that I'm referring to...
    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    One is a work of fiction and the other isn't. Guess which is which...
    DuPLeX wrote: »
    I suppose that depends on which is your religion .... to me they are both books .... If you want totell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice .

    want to try again?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    koth wrote: »
    Let's review the exchange that I'm referring to...





    want to try again?

    Ok then ..............I said
    "I suppose that depends on which is your religion ...." Now If you believe that the Bible is fact then you are most likely a Christian If you Believe that it is fiction then you are probably a believer some other religion (probably Atheism ,given the context) I said
    "to me they are both books .... If you want to tell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice." My intention was to compare any books you might choose to "believe" in or not , but my other explanation regarding your use of the Dictionary still stands


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    Ok then ..............I said
    "I suppose that depends on which is your religion ...." Now If you believe that the Bible is fact then you are most likely a Christian If you Believe that it is fiction then you are probably a believer some other religion (probably Atheism ,given the context) I said
    "to me they are both books .... If you want to tell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice." My intention was to compare any books you might choose to "believe" in or not , but my other explanation regarding your use of the Dictionary still stands

    Atheism is not a religion.


  • Moderators Posts: 51,745 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    DuPLeX wrote: »
    Ok then ..............I said
    "I suppose that depends on which is your religion ...." Now If you believe that the Bible is fact then you are most likely a Christian If you Believe that it is fiction then you are probably a believer some other religion (probably Atheism ,given the context) I said
    "to me they are both books .... If you want to tell me that you don't believe what is written in one Book but do believe what is written in another book that is your choice." My intention was to compare any books you might choose to "believe" in or not , but my other explanation regarding your use of the Dictionary still stands

    Thanks, that clears up what you meant with the original response.

    As to your comment regarding the dictionary, are you honestly saying that if someone points out a defintion of a phrase, they have a religious belief system party based on the dictionary?:confused:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 250 ✭✭DuPLeX


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Atheism is not a religion.

    Oh sorry I thought it was .. It is the title of this thread . so it must be .:confused:

    surely ?.


    No ?


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