**Chemistry...Before/After

KR1995

Sorry for been greedy but I desperately need to post this seperately.

I have never ever touched science in my entire life until 5th year. I'm doing biology and chemistry for my leaving cert next year
I know a lot of the people say chemistry is easy enough to do well in if you do it correctly..
May I ask, what way is considered as 'correctly'?
And what is the best way to study for chemistry? I find chemistry quite tough.. but I want to acheive an A1 in it.. :P

Please help me out, Thanks

FaoiSin

• Experiments - Know them well
• Definitions - Know these like the back of your hand

Important topics:

• The first few chapters of the book are quaranteed in Q5
• Also Fuels and Heats of Reaction is Q6
• Q4 The short questions is a nice Q also

That's 6 out of 8 of your questions covered. The rest will be random apart from a guaranteed Organic Q which I tend to shy away from.

3raser10

do try to enjoy chemistry!...though learning notes is essential but do understand whatever u'll do..trust me it'll make chem a lot more easy! if u won't have any interest in chemistry u'll get confuse very easily & I think in chem understanding the course is much more important then learning it.Infact once u'll understand wat u r doing it will b much more easier for u to learn it (I guess)

ash2012

hey i'm just finishing 5th year and was wondering is it too late to pick up chemistry?? is it hard and would i have enough time to achieve a high grade ? thanks

partyatmygaff

It's a short course but you need to both enjoy it and be willing to work hard for your grade. The easiest way to study it I found is to stop and think. Don't just blindly read the book or learn algorithms for answering questions. Stop, think and make sure you understand everything.

3raser10

ash2012 wrote: »

hey i'm just finishing 5th year and was wondering is it too late to pick up chemistry?? is it hard and would i have enough time to achieve a high grade ? thanks

I don't think you are allowed to change your subjects in 6th year. are you?

ash2012

yeah but i will have to change form class and and wont have extra study periods

Hayezer

Learn your experiments like mad. Try to do the 3 experiment questions.
Question 4 is random bits from all over the course, should be grand.
Theres always a chemical equilibrium question which is pretty much the same every year.
Theres always an organic question which isnt too bad.
The rest is pretty random to my understanding, fuels normally getting a question too.

So in general:Do the experiments,Q4,chemical equilibrium,organic, and two more questions! Not too bad

wayhey

partyatmygaff wrote: »

It's a short course but you need to both enjoy it and be willing to work hard for your grade. The easiest way to study it I found is to stop and think. Don't just blindly read the book or learn algorithms for answering questions. Stop, think and make sure you understand everything.

I couldn't disagree more with this, at least in the sense of wanting to obtain a high grade.

Obviously understanding the subject helps. You need to look at previous marking schemes though. Repeated questions come up all the time and in relation to certain topics there are key words and phrases that examiners are looking for to simply tick and hand you marks. Understanding helps, but there is a definite exam technique of repeating papers again and again and looking at marking schemes.

The paper is really lovely and if you've worked hard you'll have so much choice.

The experiments are absolutely crucial, you only have to answer 2 but you should aim to answer 3. Knowing Organics inside out is key to a good grade. You have to practice calculations from the book and old papers and mocks to ensure you can get full marks on those calculations. Beyond that, cover the Atomic History and Theory well for the short questions, as well as Gases. I don't think you should leave anything out, it's not a huge course. Option question (11 I think?) is lovely if you have time

You can do it in a year, but you will have to commit to working hard and being confident enough in your other 5 subjects that you can balance it. Doable though!

Gordon Gecko

I took it up for a repeat year and got an A2 in it. The secret really is to work off good notes, as all the books are rubbish, and practice exam questions (with the all important marking schemes) ad nauseam. If you put all your definitions and experiments onto flashcards and look over them every day then attempt and correct past paper qs you'll breeze an A it really is as simple as that.

partyatmygaff

wayhey wrote: »

I couldn't disagree more with this, at least in the sense of wanting to obtain a high grade.

Obviously understanding the subject helps. You need to look at previous marking schemes though. Repeated questions come up all the time and in relation to certain topics there are key words and phrases that examiners are looking for to simply tick and hand you marks. Understanding helps, but there is a definite exam technique of repeating papers again and again and looking at marking schemes.

If you know the "marking scheme" but don't know the course properly and the examiners decide to put on completely novel questions you'll do absolutely terribly. If you know the course, you'll have plenty to write for everything. If you know the marking schemes, you'll have a few key words to write for a few certain questions.

Gordon Gecko

partyatmygaff wrote: »

If you know the "marking scheme" but don't know the course properly and the examiners decide to put on completely novel questions you'll do absolutely terribly. If you know the course, you'll have plenty to write for everything. If you know the marking schemes, you'll have a few key words to write for a few certain questions.

Bahahaha, completely new and novel questions? In the leaving cert? In chemistry? Someone get me a corset, I think my sides have split.

paddzdaman

Everyone in this thread is going on about how hard chemistry is, everyone goes on about how difficult chemistry is. Everyone is trying to advise me not to chemistry next year but i see it being useful to me.

ChemHickey

paddzdaman wrote: »

Everyone in this thread is going on about how hard chemistry is, everyone goes on about how difficult chemistry is. Everyone is trying to advise me not to chemistry next year but i see it being useful to me.

It's not hard. it's only hard if you don't enjoy it. For the first few months it is harder than other subjects- But- everything falls together and it ends up being one of the nicest and easiest subjects to do and study.

plumpote

everything falls together

Yes,but

one of the nicest and easiest subjects

I don't think so

diarmo06

paddzdaman wrote: »

Everyone in this thread is going on about how hard chemistry is, everyone goes on about how difficult chemistry is. Everyone is trying to advise me not to chemistry next year but i see it being useful to me.

Simply don't. Tried to take an interest in that three years ago, genuinely tired. Every other subject, in my opinion, bar history is far easier then any of the science subjects.

finality

diarmo06 wrote: »

Simply don't. Tried to take an interest in that three years ago, genuinely tired. Every other subject, in my opinion, bar history is far easier then any of the science subjects.

Don't advise people on which subjects to do based on your personal preferences, inform them, sure, and give your opinion, but I really think it's wrong to say "don't do that subject."

I also don't think taking the easy way out is always the best option, but that's another story. :P

Spattersonox

I do Chemistry and biology. There is NO way you can say chemistry is easy. It's easy if you know it yes, but it is not ''easy''. I would say a subject like geography is easy. Biology is much more straight forward I think. the course is much longer and the paper could be absolutely anything but I find,personally, chemistry is much tougher. just my opinion.

Hayezer

Personally I think Chemistry is one of the easiest subjects. In 4th year, it seemed ridiculously hard and complicated but it soon comes together and after a few exam papers, you see the same stuff comes up all the time. People then say Geography is easy, but I find it to be one of the hardest because of how boring it is.

Spattersonox

Hayezer wrote: »

Personally I think Chemistry is one of the easiest subjects. In 4th year, it seemed ridiculously hard and complicated but it soon comes together and after a few exam papers, you see the same stuff comes up all the time. People then say Geography is easy, but I find it to be one of the hardest because of how boring it is.

Yeah but you find chemistry interesting so it becomes easy. Not everyone would think the same. Others would find everything in geography really interesting. But as a subject, preferences a side, chemistry is definitely one of the harder subjects. Totally agree with you on the repetitive side of chem. Such cast choice in the papers too!

Monsieur Folie

Chemistry is really easy in my personal opinion. The exam paper is really predictable. It gets to the point where you can look at a chapter and say 'If a question on this comes up, they'll definitely ask me this and this, they'll probably ask this, and there's a chance they'll ask this'.

Do loads of exam questions and you'll eventually be able to answer anything they throw at you!

Despite the fact that it appears to be a long course, it really isn't that bad. A lot of the books are just really rubbish and are full of things you don't actually need to know to do well. So if you're studying from a book (which isn't advisable), make sure and cut out all the filler when you go to revise.

dfx-

Depends what you want out of the subject. If you want to take Chemistry to third level, then the Leaving Cert is ridiculously easy. If you are interested in it, a good result should follow not far behind. If you are struggling at it, it takes a lot of work and can get confusing.

If you're looking for easy points then it all doesn't matter and you should get them. The major flaw in the chemistry exam is the repetitive-ness. If you're looking to get an A as your standard, then you don't find it tough.

Chemistry's reputation goes before it.

diarmo06

finality wrote: »

Don't advise people on which subjects to do based on your personal preferences, inform them, sure, and give your opinion, but I really think it's wrong to say "don't do that subject."

I also don't think taking the easy way out is always the best option, but that's another story. :P

Frankly, the leaving cert it s farce! It is no more a reflection of somebody's intellengence than that which could be judged of a person walking down the street. It is a raw cruel depiction of how much misery one could sustain before self-combustion occurs.
Much of this misery was brought on by chemistry: " Bromine, bromine approaches the carbon carbon double bond, it becomes saturated, splits into delta positive, delta minus. Carbonium ion formed.."
Chemistry is a horrible subject, that is if you enjoy life and not mindnumbing learning.
This is my personal opinion, which the OP sought.

Why bother trying to take an interest, it's not as if you'll actually enjoy any part of Lc anyway.

Spattersonox

diarmo06 wrote: »

Frankly, the leaving cert it s farce! It is no more a reflection of somebody's intellengence than that which could be judged of a person walking down the street. It is a raw cruel depiction of how much misery one could sustain before self-combustion occurs.
Much of this misery was brought on by chemistry: " Bromine, bromine approaches the carbon carbon double bond, it becomes saturated, splits into delta positive, delta minus. Carbonium ion formed.."
Chemistry is a horrible subject, that is if you enjoy life and not mindnumbing learning.
This is my personal opinion, which the OP sought.

Why bother trying to take an interest, it's not as if you'll actually enjoy any part of Lc anyway.

brutally honest, yet brutally true! really it measures how well you can cram useless information into your head and then spit it onto a page.

BeanbagBallbag

diarmo06 wrote: »

Frankly, the leaving cert it s farce! It is no more a reflection of somebody's intellengence than that which could be judged of a person walking down the street. It is a raw cruel depiction of how much misery one could sustain before self-combustion occurs.
Much of this misery was brought on by chemistry: " Bromine, bromine approaches the carbon carbon double bond, it becomes saturated, splits into delta positive, delta minus. Carbonium ion formed.."
Chemistry is a horrible subject, that is if you enjoy life and not mindnumbing learning.
This is my personal opinion, which the OP sought.

Why bother trying to take an interest, it's not as if you'll actually enjoy any part of Lc anyway.

What a depressing comment. I'm glad most people don't have such a pitiful attitude towards education.

Monsieur Folie

diarmo06 wrote: »

Frankly, the leaving cert it s farce! It is no more a reflection of somebody's intellengence than that which could be judged of a person walking down the street. It is a raw cruel depiction of how much misery one could sustain before self-combustion occurs.
Much of this misery was brought on by chemistry: " Bromine, bromine approaches the carbon carbon double bond, it becomes saturated, splits into delta positive, delta minus. Carbonium ion formed.."
Chemistry is a horrible subject, that is if you enjoy life and not mindnumbing learning.
This is my personal opinion, which the OP sought.

Why bother trying to take an interest, it's not as if you'll actually enjoy any part of Lc anyway.

I agree with your opinion on the Leaving Cert, it is a lot of shíte. However, I don't agree with your opinion on chemistry. I find it fascinating. Perhaps if you took an interest in the material as opposed to looking at it and going 'crap another block of words to cram in', you would and have enjoyed it more and found it a lot easier to learn. Maybe that's just me.

diarmo06

BeanbagBallbag wrote: »

What a depressing comment. I'm glad most people don't have such a pitiful attitude towards education.

Leaving Cert English for example, majority of students will have pages upon pages of possible Hamlet essays learned off this year. So as to regurgitate it on the day. Whereas a fair to good command of the english language will land you with a low C.
You tell me how well education is in Ireland? Completely flawed whereby genuine people with a aptitude for a high end job won't achieve it unless they take a brunt learning approach to such things as languages and the poetry of some old farmer who liked his hills?

Know a girl who did FIVE languages, english inclusive, went on to do medicine because she could brunt learn these.

But hey, education in Ireland is sound and well.

diarmo06

Must clerify once more, my opinion of chemistry OP is that it was a subject for the strong willed and imaginative. Absolute not everybodys, but it's mine & I can't be told i'm wrong.

Truth being, you were looking for reassurance on the matter & chances are you'll do it no matter what we say, Hope it fits you!

Gordon Gecko

diarmo06 wrote: »

Leaving Cert English for example, majority of students will have pages upon pages of possible Hamlet essays learned off this year. So as to regurgitate it on the day. Whereas a fair to good command of the english language will land you with a low C.
You tell me how well education is in Ireland? Completely flawed whereby genuine people with a aptitude for a high end job won't achieve it unless they take a brunt learning approach to such things as languages and the poetry of some old farmer who liked his hills?

Know a girl who did FIVE languages, english inclusive, went on to do medicine because she could brunt learn these.

But hey, education in Ireland is sound and well.

Aptitude for a high-end job? If you can't put the work in for the Leaving Cert, which you regard as being as simple as just learning off a few answers, how the hell do you have an "aptitude" for a high end job? The Leaving Cert isn't perfect by any means but it rewards the hard working.

The people who spend their time moaning about how bad it is, how it's not real education, how it's not properly structured are generally people who were too lazy or arrogant to knuckle down and study and who ended up or will end up doing badly in it.

BeanbagBallbag

diarmo06 wrote: »

Leaving Cert English for example, majority of students will have pages upon pages of possible Hamlet essays learned off this year. So as to regurgitate it on the day. Whereas a fair to good command of the english language will land you with a low C.
You tell me how well education is in Ireland? Completely flawed whereby genuine people with a aptitude for a high end job won't achieve it unless they take a brunt learning approach to such things as languages and the poetry of some old farmer who liked his hills?

Know a girl who did FIVE languages, english inclusive, went on to do medicine because she could brunt learn these.

But hey, education in Ireland is sound and well.

I didn't say anything about education in Ireland. I was referring to education in general. To say that people do not or would not "enjoy any part of the Lc" is very wrong. The LC gives people the chance to experiment with new subjects and develop new interests, as well as expanding their knowledge in subjects/areas they may already have an interest in. The exam system is awful for the mostpart, but that doesn't mean the premise of learning and gaining knowledge isn't enjoyable.

I get the impression that you didn't get to do whatever course you were hoping for after the LC and choose to use the LC and exam system as excuses. You're entitled to have whatever opinions you like about Chemistry/English/Physics etc, my point is that it's wrong to tell somebody to not bother trying to take an interest in a subject(s), and to tell them they won't enjoy any part of the LC.

$0.02

diarmo06

BeanbagBallbag wrote: »

I didn't say anything about education in Ireland. I was referring to education in general. To say that people do not or would not "enjoy any part of the Lc" is very wrong. The LC gives people the chance to experiment with new subjects and develop new interests, as well as expanding their knowledge in subjects/areas they may already have an interest in. The exam system is awful for the mostpart, but that doesn't mean the premise of learning and gaining knowledge isn't enjoyable.

I get the impression that you didn't get to do whatever course you were hoping for after the LC and choose to use the LC and exam system as excuses. You're entitled to have whatever opinions you like about Chemistry/English/Physics etc, my point is that it's wrong to tell somebody to not bother trying to take an interest in a subject(s), and to tell them they won't enjoy any part of the LC.

$0.02

That's all well & good. But in truth, today the majority of people are not like this period! It's work at the end of the day and nobody enjoys it.
It's fact, that the majority of people look back upon Lc as the worrst year of their life. YES OKAY, you can argue for a small percentage of sub-human outliers but the fact remains.

Quite wrong, got computer science in nuig, had 450 points, so well over the required. Love it. As to people with aptitudes, a friend of mine was incrediblly gifted when it came to computers, designed over 20 apps during his leaving cert and couldn't put in the hours in numb learning to do the course.
I'd like to contrast this with somebody who could brunt learn for hours on end & took the course because it was "the next big thing" with no prior interest in computers.
Leaving Cert allows genuine promise to fall through the gaps in it's system.

diarmo06

Gordon Gecko wrote: »

Aptitude for a high-end job? If you can't put the work in for the Leaving Cert, which you regard as being as simple as just learning off a few answers, how the hell do you have an "aptitude" for a high end job? The Leaving Cert isn't perfect by any means but it rewards the hard working.

The people who spend their time moaning about how bad it is, how it's not real education, how it's not properly structured are generally people who were too lazy or arrogant to knuckle down and study and who ended up or will end up doing badly in it.

I never called it simple. It's the most enduring mundane year of your live,
because you simply can't expect pupils to take a genuine interest in all aspects of study.
The hardworking are by no means the intelligent, they are the brainwashed.

ray2012

I find chemistry grand, it's just the maths parts that i'm pretty clueless on (which is a lot of the paper) :eek:

deathbythelc

There is really no point arguing about this. The education system, of course, could be better. There are so many points that could be improved but it's the same in every country - no education system will ever be perfect.

The only thing that will never change is that if you want the results, you need to put in the work. Blaming the system will get you nowhere, it won't change. And even if it does, it will never be fair to absolutely everyone.

Also, the comment that the hardworking people are brainwashed? That is ludicrous. Of course, intelligence can't be measured by your ability to memorise but to say they're brainwashed is actually ridiculous, if you want something enough you should be willing to put in the effort to get it. Whether or not rote learning is your strength, it's what has to be done. Some have it easier than others, of course, but sitting back and saying "Oh sure, I'm not good at that, I can't do it" isn't going to get you anywhere.

But to get back on point, Chemistry is a lovely subject once you understand the basic concepts. It's a short course and, with the right teacher, can be easy. But, obviously, it'll take a lot of work and learning like all the other subjects.

Monsieur Folie

diarmo06 wrote: »

you can argue for a small percentage of sub-human outliers but the fact remains.

What the hell? I take offence to this. I enjoy 7 of the 8 subjects that I do in school. The people who look back on it as 'the worst years of their life' are usually the moaners and complainers like yourself. The examination system might be flawed, but that doesn't make the material you study flawed. If you had gotten off of your high horse and engaged with your subjects you would have found them interesting.

diarmo06 wrote: »

Leaving Cert allows genuine promise to fall through the gaps in it's system.

No it doesn't. The naturally talented people that don't do well in the Leaving Cert are lazy. The Leaving Cert is easy for these people and they just choose to ''not put the hours in'', as you say. That is a fault of the person, not the system.

diarmo06

Monsieur Folie wrote: »

What the hell? I take offence to this. I enjoy 7 of the 8 subjects that I do in school. The people who look back on it as 'the worst years of their life' are usually the moaners and complainers like yourself. The examination system might be flawed, but that doesn't make the material you study flawed. If you had gotten off of your high horse and engaged with your subjects you would have found them interesting.

Well congratulations sir, you are an outlier. Not having a go at you or anything.
Not a moaner, I just hold a great distain for somebody's "intelligence" being based on a number, calculated on hours put it.
Just making a valid point & you have the audacity to call me a moaner?
You just sound like one of the many useless people who have no independent taughts and possesses the ability to to "study" the ideas of others.



No it doesn't. The naturally talented people that don't do well in the Leaving Cert are lazy. The Leaving Cert is easy for these people and they just choose to ''not put the hours in'', as you say. That is a fault of the person, not the system.

I good points, off little to no work because I hold genuine intelligence, something you will never learn.

BeanbagBallbag

diarmo06 wrote: »

That's all well & good. But in truth, today the majority of people are not like this period!

The majority of people don't enjoy learning? That makes no sense at all. What data have you got to back that up btw?

diarmo06 wrote: »

It's work at the end of the day and nobody enjoys it.

Nobody enjoys work? Really? Again, what data have you got supporting that statement?

diarmo06 wrote: »

It's fact, that the majority of people look back upon Lc as the worrst year of their life.

Source for that "fact"? Or are you basing it on your own experience and that of friends?

diarmo06 wrote: »

YES OKAY, you can argue for a small percentage of sub-human outliers but the fact remains.

So people who enjoy working and learning are "sub-human"?...That's a moronic thing to say. I'm repeating myself but where are you sourcing these "facts"?

diarmo06 wrote: »

Quite wrong, got computer science in nuig, had 450 points, so well over the required. Love it. As to people with aptitudes, a friend of mine was incrediblly gifted when it came to computers, designed over 20 apps during his leaving cert and couldn't put in the hours in numb learning to do the course.
I'd like to contrast this with somebody who could brunt learn for hours on end & took the course because it was "the next big thing" with no prior interest in computers.

Congratulations. As regards people with "high aptitudes", the LC is a two year course. You find out pretty early on what's expected as regards the exams and there's more than enough time for people to get off their high horse and just put the work in. You don't have to learn off essays by heart or memorize diagrams or experiments to do very well in the LC. I know plenty of people who attest to that. Seeing as you mentioned Medicine earlier I'll give a Medicine related fact. One of my good friends got a place in Medicine last year. He didn't learn off any essays or streams of information. He was very good at most subjects, because he applied himself to the work. He wasn't the best in the class at Irish/Maths, but he just did the work and got the course he really wanted. It's upto the person to do the work if they really want to do a course, rather than sulk because the system "doesn't suit them".

diarmo06 wrote: »

Leaving Cert allows genuine promise to fall through the gaps in it's system.

As has been said before and as will be said again, no system is perfect, and certainly not ours. However, I think that if somebody has "genuine promise", they won't give up all hope based on not doing well in the LC. The LC isn't the be-all and end-all afterall.

Monsieur Folie

diarmo06 wrote: »

I good points, off little to no work because I hold genuine intelligence, something you will never learn.

Are you trying to call me stupid now as well? You've already said I'm sub-human because I enjoy school, what next?

Yes, because genuine intelligence is sitting back and giving out about something just because it's difficult? Nobody's trying to say the education system isn't flawed, but your points most certainly are!

What the hell does 'I good points' mean anyway? So intelligent now that you just leave out words that aren't good enough for you?

Your points are most certainly flawed. You're saying the LC can inhibit certain 'genuine promise'. The only example you give is of a friend who you openly admit 'didn't put in the hours'. How is that a fault of the Leaving Cert? There are many faults, but person laziness/lack of motivation isn't one of them! That's his own fault!

A very valuable lesson that I have learned in life so far is that raw talent alone won't get you through life. You have to be willing to work too.

diarmo06

Monsieur Folie wrote: »

Are you trying to call me stupid now as well? You've already said I'm sub-human because I enjoy school, what next?

Yes, because genuine intelligence is sitting back and giving out about something just because it's difficult? Nobody's trying to say the education system isn't flawed, but your points most certainly are!

What the hell does 'I good points' mean anyway? So intelligent now that you just leave out words that aren't good enough for you?

Your points are most certainly flawed. You're saying the LC can inhibit certain 'genuine promise'. The only example you give is of a friend who you openly admit 'didn't put in the hours'. How is that a fault of the Leaving Cert? There are many faults, but person laziness/lack of motivation isn't one of them! That's his own fault!

A very valuable lesson that I have learned in life so far is that raw talent alone won't get you through life. You have to be willing to work too.

Ah, debating with the minnows, why must I stoop.
Adieu moron.

Monsieur Folie

diarmo06 wrote: »

Ah, debating with the minnows, why must I stoop.
Adieu moron.

I'm sorry? Oh, you're one of those high and mighty people. That explains the insults.

I don't think I'm the moron in this conversation.

You are the one labelling lazy people as 'genuine promise' and people who are willing to put in a bit of work (regardless of intelligence) as 'morons'.

By the way, pulling out of a debate on the grounds that the other person is stupid (or to use your own terminology, moronic) is a sure sign of a sore loser and of an arsehole.

Goodnight.

I'm sorry for derailing the thread, OP.

finality

diarmo06 wrote: »

The hardworking are by no means the intelligent, they are the brainwashed.

What's that even supposed to mean? This is like when you put words together in a sentence, and you can see that it's a sentence, it's got all the properties of a sentence, but when you actually think about it and try to work out what the sentence is saying, you can't because it genuinely has no meaning.

KR1995

ray2012 wrote: »

I find chemistry grand, it's just the maths parts that i'm pretty clueless on (which is a lot of the paper) :eek:

True that!!
everytime when there's a sum coming up... in the books there is hell a lot of examples.. and i dont have a clue how and which to follow because theres soo many TTnTT It's time to eat materials in once again this summer...

KR1995

diarmo06 wrote: »

I good points, off little to no work because I hold genuine intelligence, something you will never learn.

You do know theres a limit to this genuine intelligence of someone. Life is about effort. You aint gonna go anyway with that attitude of yours. I was looking for tips, not compliants!

I've got a good few friends in college, and many are pure genius'.. but they arent ego about it. They put in the effort to gain their BA, Master and PhD degrees. It's hard working, not talent and thats what they always tell me about. Surely anyone can do well in something when u put in the effort, but of course, this doesnt apply for everything.

It doesn't take a genius to do well in their Leaving cert. My piano teacher's daughter is now in 2nd year college, She is one of the 6A1 students on that particular year- She's not genius, She is just simply a young girl who wanted to gain something. The ambition in one is more important than anything else.. but that simply is just my opinion.

reznov

diarmo06 wrote: »

I good points, off little to no work because I hold genuine intelligence, something you will never learn.

You hold genuine intelligence? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh my. From your opinion it is clear you don't have "genuine intelligence", or any sort of intelligence at all. How is genuine intellgience even defined?
You bash those who work hard and are able to excel academically while you sit and moan about the LC system. Hardly bright.

I have enjoyed this year, out of all 11 years of my education, the most. The work load is there, material is interesting, and we have a challenge. Sorry if your experience was inferior, but remember, the LC is voluntary.

Did you by any stroke of luck sit an online IQ test? Those may render an illusion in regards to your level of intellect.

Stalin and rugby

Lads WTF? If you want to be fags arguing some pointless shít being keyboard warriors please do so in your own time.

In the name of Zeus himself I command thee to leave. You've hijacked this thread to bits.

Back to chem, what experiment do you guys think is coming up for Q. 3 the organic? Fair few have not come up in recent years?

FaoiSin

Stalin and rugby wrote: »

Lads WTF? If you want to be fags arguing some pointless shít being keyboard warriors please do so in your own time.

In the name of Zeus himself I command thee to leave. You've hijacked this thread to bits.

Back to chem, what experiment do you guys think is coming up for Q. 3 the organic? Fair few have not come up in recent years?

It'll be Q2 Erm I'd say Ethanal/Ethanoic Acid.

partyatmygaff

diarmo06 wrote: »

It's fact, that the majority of people look back upon Lc as the worrst year of their life. YES OKAY, you can argue for a small percentage of sub-human outliers but the fact remains.

How would being able to cope with difficulties make you sub-human? Surely it would be make you a super-human outlier?

Quite wrong, got computer science in nuig, had 450 points, so well over the required. Love it. As to people with aptitudes, a friend of mine was incrediblly gifted when it came to computers, designed over 20 apps during his leaving cert and couldn't put in the hours in numb learning to do the course.
I'd like to contrast this with somebody who could brunt learn for hours on end & took the course because it was "the next big thing" with no prior interest in computers.
Leaving Cert allows genuine promise to fall through the gaps in it's system.

It's not the LC's fault that your friend is lazy. If you want anything in life you have to work for it. Even if you personally think you're great, no one will recognise that if you can't be bothered to do something as simple as study for the LC.

diarmo06 wrote: »

I good points, off little to no work because I hold genuine intelligence, something you will never learn.

What in the name of God does that sentence even mean?

You "good points"... "off little to no work" because apparently you hold "genuine intelligence" that we will never learn.

I don't suppose you've got a certificate of authenticity to go with your "genuine" intelligence, do you? I suspect it may be counterfeit.


As for the LC itself, Ethanal/Ethanoic acid would be well worth studying this year.

DepoProvera

Does anyone know where to find the warning symbols for LC chemistry? There's only a few but I cannot for the life of me find them..

frozenfrozen

DepoProvera wrote: »

Does anyone know where to find the warning symbols for LC chemistry? There's only a few but I cannot for the life of me find them..

If you mean safety symbols there inside the front page of 'chemistry live' if you have that. There are only a few there though. Safety Glasses, Harmful or irritant, Flammable, Corrosive, Toxic, Oxidising, Explosive.

Scarlett Scout

Stalin and rugby wrote: »

Lads WTF? If you want to be fags arguing some pointless shít being keyboard warriors please do so in your own time.

In the name of Zeus himself I command thee to leave. You've hijacked this thread to bits.

Back to chem, what experiment do you guys think is coming up for Q. 3 the organic? Fair few have not come up in recent years?

Volatile Liquid/Heat of Neutralisation/production of O2 (redox of halogens could be an option)

Monsieur Folie

Scarlett Scout wrote: »

Volatile Liquid/Heat of Neutralisation/production of O2 (redox of halogens could be an option)

Is the volatile liquid an organic experiment? I thought it was one of the ones that fell into the 'other' category (i.e. not a titration or organic).