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Should an English pub be opened in Dublin?

  • 03-05-2012 8:43am
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    Site Banned Posts: 612 ✭✭✭


    There's Irish pubs in every major, and alot of non major English cities and towns but not vice versa. I'm talking ROI here. Alot of english come here just to get locked. I wouldn't have a problem with one, you might even get a pint of John Smith's but I think they would be intimidated and forced out by local gurriers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    NO

    Go away


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭FoxT


    They should open one at Beal na Blath...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Of course they should be allowed.

    We need more ale on tap in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Define and English pub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Only if we can adorn it with Union Jacks, have bull dogs guarding the door and rangers jerseyes inside on the walls............................just to really piss of the small minded Celtic wannabe nationalist brigade. That is the only reason one should open an English bar in Dublin.................................and hot pot!!













    I know not all celtic fans are like that but the majority I have met sure are!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    There's Irish pubs in every major, and alot of non major English cities and towns but not vice versa. I'm talking ROI here. Alot of english come here just to get locked. I wouldn't have a problem with one, you might even get a pint of John Smith's but I think they would be intimidated and forced out by local gurriers.

    John Smith's is the Devils piss, why on earth would we want that manky stuff served over here? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Immaculate Pasta


    An English pub is just a shit attempt at an Irish pub. No question about that :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Well most of the British pubs I have come across are soulless dumps lacking any character, or a chain of super-pubs, so I think we are ok how we are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    frag420 wrote: »
    Only if we can adorn it with Union Jacks, have bull dogs guarding the door and rangers jerseyes inside on the walls............................just to really piss of the small minded Celtic wannabe nationalist brigade. That is the only reason one should open an English bar in Dublin.................................and hot pot!!













    I know not all celtic fans are like that but the majority I have met sure are!!

    Why would an English bar have a Scottish team's jerseys on its walls?

    My experience of English bars is warm beer. We can do without that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    We need more ales served in Irish pubs.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Lionel Messy


    Fart wrote: »
    Of course they should be allowed.

    We need more ale on tap in Ireland.
    Exactly, but the knackers love their Bud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Exactly, but the knackers love their Bud.

    Unfortunately. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    What, like a Whetherspoons? English pubs are pretty crap to be honest - it's why there's so many Irish pubs there.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Dr.Strange


    Only on the condition that they sell Pork Scratchings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Of course they should.

    Particularly if they charge UK prices. Wetherspoons pubs over there are superb, and I love them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Davyhal


    FoxT wrote: »
    They should open one at Beal na Blath...

    Surely the site of an Anglo-Irish skirmish would be more controversial instead of the site of an Irish Civil War skirmish?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    There are some pubs that I love in Dublin. But here in merry England I have to say the range of old and new pubs, cheap pubs, fancy gastro ones etc is just amazing. Also the range of beers on tap is fantastic. The opening hours are much better too. Altogether a much better drinking experience, we should take on board some of their practices in Ireland for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    Of course they should.

    Particularly if they charge UK prices. Wetherspoons pubs over there are superb, and I love them.

    They are terrible!
    They all are the same...I would hate for them to be in Ireland!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    A lot of what we think of as being classic Dublin pubs are in a British style anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I have no arguments with people opening english pubs here as long as they're free houses. Most Irish pubs are basically just Diageo franchises. The alcohol equivalent of akebrakebabra.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 181 ✭✭Dr.Strange


    They are terrible!
    They all are the same...I would hate for them to be in Ireland!!

    But no one would force you to go in to them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    They are terrible!
    They all are the same...I would hate for them to be in Ireland!!

    Wetherspoons are depressing, the only people who go to them where I live are old people and rough looking down and outs. No music or sport either and horrible carpets, eugh makes me shudder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    No.

    For the simple reasons of crap old carpets, crap wooden, outdated furniture and sh!tty paintings on the walls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    No music or sport either .

    My ideal pub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    Bambi wrote: »
    I have no arguments with people opening english pubs here as long as they're free houses. Most Irish pubs are basically just Diageo franchises. The alcohol equivalent of akebrakebabra.
    Abrakebabra should open a pub!! You could get a pint with your taco chips! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    If you could have a pub here that served decent beer , ie not the chilled flavourless gassy substance on sale in 99% of Irish pubs then great

    ( I know there are 1 or 2 notable exceptions to that ie The Porterhouse and the Bull and Castle )

    The real typical country pub as featured in programmes like Midsumer Murders are pretty few and far between now a days. ( although perhaps too many dead bodies turn up in that one :) )

    Most pubs in the urban sprawls such as London are places like Wetherspoons and as some other posters have pointed out pretty soulless . This is because they are managed pubs rather than owned , so the staff can change often and don;t really care it's like a branch of a supermarket. However the price is often very good.

    On reflection , the answer to the OP is no , however I think it would have done the market some good to break the cartel the LVA has , so perhaps a couple of Wetherspoons charging 2.50 a pint , or a pint and a meal for a fiver would shake them a bit I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    frag420 wrote: »
    Only if we can adorn it with Union Jacks, have bull dogs guarding the door and rangers jerseyes inside on the walls............................just to really piss of the small minded Celtic wannabe nationalist brigade. That is the only reason one should open an English bar in Dublin.................................and hot pot!!



    whats more likely to happen is it will be packed to the rafters with lads on a saturday and sunday watching some premier league game shouting about how great "we" are and how "we" are going to win the league...........

    oh and putting on english accents cheering, CITSAY!! and U -NOITE -TSED!!!

    no thanks..


  • Site Banned Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Lionel Messy


    Abrakebabra should open a pub!! You could get a pint with your taco chips! :D

    Abrakebabra should be showered with pepper spray. It would improve the smell of the kip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    i dont really see what difference opening an english pub would be than the countless british stores that we have here already???


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    Most pubs in the urban sprawls such as London are places like Wetherspoons and as some other posters have pointed out pretty soulless

    You couldn't be more incorrect about London


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 GordonCole


    I have no idea where this will lead us. But I have a definite feeling it will be a place both wonderful and strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭Chriscl1


    They are terrible!
    They all are the same...I would hate for them to be in Ireland!!

    no they are not all the same at all, ive been in maybe 8 or 9 different wethers and a lot of them were very nice and different, particularly the one in llandudno converted from an old theatre, the worst was in chorlton in manchester.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    There is a Wetherspoons in Belfast and it is extremely cheap. The low prices attract so much scum that fights break out regularly and most people stay well clear.

    So YES This is why they should open a few in Dublin. They hoover up all the shyte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    You couldn't be more incorrect about London


    Well the part of London I am from ( NW ) , most of the real pubs have been knocked down to re-develop . Then the only pubs left are the Wetherspoons or similar on the high street ( usually in old Woolworths )

    of course I am generalising :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    well they are pubs that have an english look/feel to them....

    The Castle Inn, The Mercantile, The Hairy Lemon, The George (;))

    anyway go down to temple bar on a weekend and you'd swear you were in any major English town


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    I was thinking about the Union Flag last week, how many of them are there around Dublin does anyone know? I know there's a hostel near Connolly that has one (Isaacs I think?) but I don't ever recall seeing too many around the place.

    Anyone know of any more?

    (PS - I mean actual flags, not t-shirts or handbags :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭golden lane


    if you want to try an english pub in england.......you better hurry up.....soon there will be none left...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Paz-CCFC


    Why would an English bar have a Scottish team's jerseys on its walls?

    The same reason that a lot of Irish pubs have a Scottish team's jerseys on the walls?


  • Site Banned Posts: 116 ✭✭DERPY HOOFS


    I dont think it will do much business.


  • Site Banned Posts: 612 ✭✭✭Lionel Messy


    A scottish pub aswell, I forgot to say that in my OP. They could do haggis and have the best selection of scotch whisky's around.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Yes, a Queen Vic complete with a tarty Kat Slater on the taps and a tacky pokey machine. The drama would be delightful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    A scottish pub aswell, I forgot to say that in my OP. They could do haggis and have the best selection of scotch whisky's around.

    Jaysus I know it's expensive but The Temple Bar has 109 different Scotch's in it, don't know how much more of a selection you'd want!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,588 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Not sure where you're seeing these Irish pubs with Celtic jerseys on the wall unless you're in Donegal or Glasgow?

    My two cents I think most English pubs are inferior to the vast majority of well-run Irish pubs, particularly on the food / decor side. Most of them are manky dirty as well.

    Diageo's line is what the vast majority of punters want no matter how un-hipster that sounds, and once the bar I'm in has a stock of large bottles of Staropramen/ Krombacher/ Budvar or some other quality beers I'm happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    Why should there be one opened?.....to provide another english chainstore to send any profit back to England whilst edging in and taking business from Irish publicans and bringing our pubs more in line with the English pubculture?
    I don't think there should be any. This would have a negitive impact on what our country is famous for, its homely pubs. Wouldn't be ideal from a tourisim point of view and it would be opening us to lose a little more of whats left of the Irish culture.
    It would be a pity to see weatherspoons taking over and offering cheaper pint and putting age-old pubs/publicans out of business to be replaced by the branded pubs.
    I for one don't think we need one. If somebody wants an English pub in Dublin, ye should hop on the boat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Not a chain pub (cause they're sh!t), but a nice olde worlde englishe style ale house would be fly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Noffles


    Of course they should, there are **** paddy pubs all over the world... can't go anywhere without seeing the fcuking dumps..

    Open one up and call it the British Bulldog..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    Noffles wrote: »
    Of course they should, there are **** paddy pubs all over the world... can't go anywhere without seeing the fcuking dumps..

    Open one up and call it the British Bulldog..

    :rolleyes: Sounds like you would just open them out of spite!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    Noffles wrote: »
    Open one up and call it the British Bulldog..

    or better still, this


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭philstar


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ha ha! there's a VD clinic nearby


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