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Dual Mass Flywheel replacement cost???

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 scealagam


    We have the same problem on our 07 Galaxy, 85k. I've got quotes of between €900 & €1600 to get fixed. That's to replace clutch as well. Can anyone recommend decent reasonable place to get fixed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    You might want to include your approximate location so you don't get suggestions of places the opposite end of the country to where you are ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 scealagam


    Of course, in Dublin. Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭Garvan


    Blackchurch Motors out by Rathcoole were recommended to me.

    John there is ex-Ford with something like 17 years experience and over the phone he sounded (to a novice like me) that he knew what he was on about.

    Just by the by, I didn't go out because a second opinion from a Ford dealer (we were getting it inspected under warranty) said there wasn't an issue and there have been no problems since. Fingers crossed ;)

    G


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    In general are the single mass fly kits a similar weight to the dual mass fly? If it's lighter the lightened fly could potentially take a bit of getting used to.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Veloce wrote: »
    In general are the single mass fly kits a similar weight to the dual mass fly? If it's lighter the lightened fly could potentially take a bit of getting used to.

    I think you need to google it a bit more......


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    mullingar wrote: »
    I think you need to google it a bit more......

    Why is that? Don't you know what I'm asking?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭mullingar


    You will not notice any weight difference in the driving. DMFs are lighter but the dual weight difference is for harmonic balancing of the crankshaft.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    mullingar wrote: »
    You will not notice any weight difference in the driving. DMFs are lighter but the dual weight difference is for harmonic balancing of the crankshaft.
    mullingar wrote: »
    I think you need to google it a bit more......

    I've gone from a dmf to a single lightened solid flywheel. Approx half the weight, improved engine responsiveness, engine braking. Downside is that is that little trickier to drive. I was wondering if smf kits can be got that will closely match the dmfs weight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Veloce wrote: »
    I've gone from a dmf to a single lightened solid flywheel. Approx half the weight, improved engine responsiveness, engine braking. Downside is that is that little trickier to drive. I was wondering if smf kits can be got that will closely match the dmfs weight.

    No.

    I bet your engines idle is also a lot rougher too.

    The whole idea of a dmf is to avoid an overweight smf. Its all down to harmonic balancing. Get the balance right with a dmf and the engine has a very smooth idle with a fast responsiveness. An overweight smf will by inertia keep the engine balanced at the expense of fuel economy and slow responsiveness.

    A lightwight smf is madness, unless you are happy with a very rough idle. Just my 2cent


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    mullingar wrote: »
    No.

    I bet your engines idle is also a lot rougher too.

    The whole idea of a dmf is to avoid an overweight smf. Its all down to harmonic balancing. Get the balance right with a dmf and the engine has a very smooth idle with a fast responsiveness. An overweight smf will by inertia keep the engine balanced at the expense of fuel economy and slow responsiveness.

    A lightwight smf is madness, unless you are happy with a very rough idle. Just my 2cent

    Engine idle is not too bad in terms of roughness. It does sound like a cement mixer with the clutch disengaged! I do like the lightweight flywheel though, works well with the 3.5 V6 power delivery through the gears, especially 1-3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭belacqua_


    Had the same problem in a 1.8 TDCI Focus, with about 65k miles on the clock. Got about 8000 miles out of it before it went completely. I was quoted £1200 by dealer for a new DMF, my local indy recommended a SMF and quoted me £600. Easy decision. I haven't noticed any difference in drive or fuel economy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    belacqua_ wrote: »
    Had the same problem in a 1.8 TDCI Focus, with about 65k miles on the clock. Got about 8000 miles out of it before it went completely. I was quoted £1200 by dealer for a new DMF, my local indy recommended a SMF and quoted me £600. Easy decision. I haven't noticed any difference in drive or fuel economy.

    Well, it all depends on what year it is.
    I have an 06 1.8 TDCI Cmax and it's going in for clutch and DMF replacement.
    I was told there is no SMF kit available for my car yet, there is for earlier Fords.
    Since I got nearly 250k km out of the current setup, I'm not too worried.
    Quoted cost:
    E850 at Indy vs E1500 at Ford.
    Was also quoted one substantially lower price than the above, but since the entire job was quoted at less than what the material would have been at other places, I would tend to be skeptical. Since (I'm told) it will take two guys more than a day to do, I would think twice about putting in substandard parts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,623 ✭✭✭creedp


    Manuel wrote: »
    85,000 miles.

    Creedp, the dashboard always tells me ~42mpg, but any time I work it out, it's invariably around 35. But that's a whole other discussion ....

    Sorry for delay in responding .. I had noticed my miles per fill reducing recently so brimmed the tank twice and drove for over 550 miles before brimming again and calc mpg at 42 and 39. I think my lower lower mpg more recently relates to a pretty hard driving commute attempting to make a creche before 6.30pm closing time! Not good for mpg or sanity!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    mullingar wrote: »
    No.

    I bet your engines idle is also a lot rougher too.

    The whole idea of a dmf is to avoid an overweight smf. Its all down to harmonic balancing. Get the balance right with a dmf and the engine has a very smooth idle with a fast responsiveness. An overweight smf will by inertia keep the engine balanced at the expense of fuel economy and slow responsiveness.

    A lightwight smf is madness, unless you are happy with a very rough idle. Just my 2cent


    Veloce wrote: »
    I've gone from a dmf to a single lightened solid flywheel. Approx half the weight, improved engine responsiveness, engine braking. Downside is that is that little trickier to drive. I was wondering if smf kits can be got that will closely match the dmfs weight.

    Guys, now is not the time for dick measuring.

    Op, how it all end up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭mullingar


    myshirt wrote: »
    Guys, now is not the time for dick measuring.

    Op, how it all end up?

    Very mature comment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Right, today I got the CMax back from Martin the mechanic (very capable guy, lives near Gort and if anyone has clutch problems, PM me and I send you his details)

    Old cruddy bits:

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    256198.jpg

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    256200.jpg

    256204.jpg


    I was told I definitely got all there was out of them, it was rattling, banging, shuddering and generally like a tractor. The car is transformed, smooth as silk and the clutch feels great. It cost E850 to fix and original Sachs parts where used.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Glad to hear you got sorted.

    It is a massive difference when you swap out the old one isn't it? Really transforms the car.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Glad to hear you got sorted.

    It is a massive difference when you swap out the old one isn't it? Really transforms the car.

    From Massey Ferguson to Maserati. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    Glad it is sorted fuzzy. Cheers for posting the pictures as well. I will be getting the same done in the next week or two as well. I have all the rattles, clunks, clicks and bangs going so I am really looking forward to have a smooth car.


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