Dual Mass Flywheel replacement cost???

Garvan

Hi all

I had my wife's 2007 Ford Galaxy 1.8 tdci checked by a Ford dealer today as I thought I felt a slight rumble when I started it up the other day (but not since).....and no it wasn't the rumble of the diesel engine....

Anyway they came back saying that the dmf is starting to go and will eventually need to be replaced....at a cost of €1400 :eek: :eek: :eek:

There's only 70,000 klms on it...less than 50k miles!!! Seems mad to me

Another else had this issue

Garvan

dr.fuzzenstein

Garvan wrote: »

Hi all

I had my wife's 2007 Ford Galaxy 1.8 tdci checked by a Ford dealer today as I thought I felt a slight rumble when I started it up the other day (but not since).....and no it wasn't the rumble of the diesel engine....

Anyway they came back saying that the dmf is starting to go and will eventually need to be replaced....at a cost of €1400 :eek: :eek: :eek:

There's only 70,000 klms on it...less than 50k miles!!! Seems mad to me

Another else had this issue

Garvan

There's your problem!
You can probably half that quote by going to a good Indy.

Jimbob 83

DMF's the reason i won't buy a modern Diesel

Garvan

Can anyone recommend a good independent Ford specialist in Dublin or close by?
I would want the work guaranteed or something like that. There's no point doing it on the cheap if it's gonna go again in a couple of years

G

Garvan

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

DMF's the reason i won't buy a modern Diesel

6.6l to the 100klms is the reason we did

bbsrs

Jimbob 83 wrote: »

DMF's the reason i won't buy a modern Diesel

there are kits to replace the dual mass flywheel with a conventional set up .

Garvan

bbsrs wrote: »

there are kits to replace the dual mass flywheel with a conventional set up .

I've seen those alright. There's a mixed opinion on changing the dmf for a smf. Some guys on the uk forums have had other issues after changing so I think I'm windy enough to stick with the dual mass. Hopefully it will last the next time....:(

G

Nissan doctor

What sort of use does the car get? If its all school runs etc then there is nothing unusual about the DMF failing early and maybe a solid conversion kit might suit better.

As said, a reputable indy would be cheaper.

john reilly

Garvan wrote: »

I've seen those alright. There's a mixed opinion on changing the dmf for a smf. Some guys on the uk forums have had other issues after changing so I think I'm windy enough to stick with the dual mass. Hopefully it will last the next time....:(

G

well its not going to last any longer than origiinal one

Garvan

Nissan doctor wrote: »

What sort of use does the car get? If its all school runs etc then there is nothing unusual about the DMF failing early and maybe a solid conversion kit might suit better.

As said, a reputable indy would be cheaper.

School runs alright....at least while we have owned it (about 6 months). But it is also used for longer trips down the country and to France?!?!?

You think a solid is a good bet? Some guys say other components wear out with increased vibes etc...

G

The Tyre Dude

Garvan wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a good independent Ford specialist in Dublin or close by?
I would want the work guaranteed or something like that. There's no point doing it on the cheap if it's gonna go again in a couple of years

G

I've heard good things about Blackchurch motors.

Nissan doctor

Garvan wrote: »

School runs alright....at least while we have owned it (about 6 months). But it is also used for longer trips down the country and to France?!?!?

You think a solid is a good bet? Some guys say other components wear out with increased vibes etc...

G

Damage being caused is, in my experience, pub talk. There can sometimes be more vibrations, how much differs from car to car.

The school runs/stop start driving are very bad for DMF's and once up to speed on the long drives to France or where ever you won't feel the difference between the DMF and SMF.

Not to mention the DPF too. Modern diesels really aren't suited to this sort of driving unfortunately.

Plug

Them 1.8's are a whore for dual mass flywheels. Earliest I ever seen one fail was at 66000km. Bare in mind it was used to collect disabled kids to and from home etc so lots of stopping starting and acceleration.

Thats a rip of a price, go to a cheaper indy or a specialist.

Ricardo G

I would say go for the solid conversion kit, i work in an autofactors and we supply Valeo, luk clutch kits for 99% of modern fords and have found mechanics are very happy to use them. You WILL get a lot more mileage from the solid. We have never heard of any issues regarding conversions

Damien360

My old work mondeo 1.8TDCI had that problem and it was sent to Hillside garages in Tallaght (industrial estate behind woodies).

Lenny in there knows the Fords pretty well and I trust him. A few guys in work bring there own cars there also (not just work car) which I always find is a good measure if the service he gives. Cannot remember price but he is always willing to bargain.

http://hillsidegarage.ie/

Aln_S

Yep, can tell you all about it. my 08 Golf GT is going in for clutch and flywheel tomorrow.

I was quoted £1200 stg by Agnews in Belfast (main VW stealer).
Getting it done for £780 in an Indy garage. Its 5.5 hours labour plus £150 for the clutch pack. Think the flywheel is about £450 on it's own.

Serious amount of cash to fork out!

E30i

I've used Blackchurch Motors for this job on a Mondeo and went with a Solid Flywheel. 25k miles and a year later and all good.

I'd have no hesitation in recommending them and have no connection other than as a customer.

Garvan

E30i wrote: »

I've used Blackchurch Motors for this job on a Mondeo and went with a Solid Flywheel. 25k miles and a year later and all good.

I'd have no hesitation in recommending them and have no connection other than as a customer.

If u don't mind telling, what was the cost? PM me if u prefer?

Regards

Garvan

E30i

I think it was around €800 but I was getting injectors reconditioned at the same time so I'm working from memory on the split. If you ring John I'd say he will quote you over the phone for the standard job anyway.

Garvan

Great. Thanks for that

G

wishmaster200

a friend of mine has the same problem with his 08 Ford Galaxy 1.8 tdci bought it in the north for 14k +4300 to clear changed flywheel at a cost of 1200 witch also damaged starter now the steering is getting heavy which mechanic says steering rack is needed at a cost of around 800 euro and zero comeback from the seller in the north

mullingar

DMFs are designed to reduce the diesel vibrations and to improve mpg as there is less inertia weight to keep the engine rotating.

If you go down the SMF route, be prepared for a little more vibration on tick-over and a little worse fuel ecomomy. Other than that, SMF will outlive the engine:)

Ron Burgundy II

Does the conversion from a dmf to smf cause any problems to the gearbox etc.
If anyone is interested car mechanics magazine for jan (dated feb) has a good write up on dmfs. I will hopefully get a chance over the weekend to read the article.
http://www.carmechanicsmag.co.uk

Manuel

Just bumping this thread as I now have this problem with my '08 Galaxy LX (100 BHP) 5-speed.

Both Main Dealers I spoke to will only consider re-fitting a DMF, but the Indy I spoke to recommends the SMF as a cost-saving option.

Just wondering, as it's my missus' car, if I go with the SMF option, is it going to be noisy? I'd hate to think it'll turn out sounding like an old diesel Peugeot 405 that you'd hear rattling away before you saw it coming around a corner :-)

All opinions welcome.

Thanks!
/M.

creedp

Ricardo G wrote: »

I would say go for the solid conversion kit, i work in an autofactors and we supply Valeo, luk clutch kits for 99% of modern fords and have found mechanics are very happy to use them. You WILL get a lot more mileage from the solid. We have never heard of any issues regarding conversions

I thought I read somewhere (probably here) that the solid kits were reasonable for the 5 speeds but not an option for the 6 speed gearboxes. The 1.8TCDi is probably a 5 speed in any case

Edit: Sorry only copped the date of that quoted post now!

Manuel

Just reading back through this thread, I see someone said that the SMF would lead to reduced fuel economy. That would be a major factor for me too then. I'm getting about 35 mpg from my Galaxy at the moment, and that's on the open road. I'd hate to think that I would make it any worse!

George Dalton

The SMF is noisy in the 1.8tdci in both 5 speed and 6 speed gearboxes. If you don't want extra noise then don't go for a solid flywheel.

creedp

Manuel wrote: »

Just reading back through this thread, I see someone said that the SMF would lead to reduced fuel economy. That would be a major factor for me too then. I'm getting about 35 mpg from my Galaxy at the moment, and that's on the open road. I'd hate to think that I would make it any worse!

I'm gettng around 45mpg from a 2l S-Max with a mix of Motorway and city driving. 35mpg is not great I would have thought.

George Dalton

What mileage is on the Galaxy, just out of interest?

Manuel

85,000 miles.

Creedp, the dashboard always tells me ~42mpg, but any time I work it out, it's invariably around 35. But that's a whole other discussion ....