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  • 15-04-2012 9:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭


    It's been a while since I've been on boards. Long story short had a babytri 10 months ago and it's time to get the finger out and get back in shape.
    Don't have the time anymore for triathlon so I'm gonna try to concentrate on running for the summer but it was ALWAYS my weakest discipline.
    In terms of goals...I've singned up for the Le Cheile 5km in Leixlip in 3 weeks but I've literally JUST got back to running a consistent 5km in a shocking time of 27 minutes (convincing myself that it's because it's a hilly course but still disheartened at my time). After that, hoping to do the Adidas Series up to 10 miles and a few local races here in the NW as they come up... maybe even the Warriors Run which I did in 2007 in about 1.30ish.

    As I'm not really a runner, I don't know my PB's only have times from runs in brick sessions or triathlon races. My best 5km being Athlone in 2009 in 22mins but have resigned myself to the fact that course must've been short!


    So plan is to get out when I can, as often as I can, as fast as I can and any ladies out there with some post-natal training advice I'll happily take it on!
    Really don't want to embarrass myself in Leixlip as I'll be back in my old 'hood so would like to do it in 24mins...think it's possible to shave 3 minutes in 3 weeks???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    The plan for this week is:
    Monday - 5km
    Tues - rest
    Wed - 3 x 1200 intervals (this'll be a first!)
    Thurs - easy 5km
    Fri - 5km
    Sat - 5km
    Sun - 7.5km

    Last week was my first consistent week of getting in 3 runs (2 x 5k, 1 x 6.5k) so this might be a bit too much of a jump in miles for me so might drop Friday or Saturday's run if I'm feeling dodgy. But want to push it out this week and next so I can take it easier the week of the Le Cheile run.

    The intervals run will be with the tri club, haven't trained with them in almost 2 years between pregnancy and young baby so looking forward to this although I know it's gonna hurt like hell.

    Sunday's run is on trails in the forest park, did 6.5km last Sunday so hoping I'll be ok adding another km to that, felt fine last week so reckon it'll be alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Just over 5km "easy" tonight, except it wasn't easy... Every time I go out I think it's gonna just 'click' and I'll find my stride but it hasn't happened yet. Conscious that I'm still carrying a few baby pounds so hopefully shifting them will help.

    Tomorrow: Friday Night Lights followed by Mad Men.

    Might do an old fashioned circuit training session...or should I rest before Wednesday nights intervals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Good to see you back m'lady. All the best with the new log and goals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Thanks MCOS and my my haven't you been busy...good to see you've not been slackin' off...too much:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Holy Calamity!

    Met up with a few people from the tri club for this session and hope to keep this as a weekly thang...but it was tough!

    900m warm up then:
    (1200m) - 5.58
    (1200m) - 5.47
    (900m) - 4.35
    1200m cool down.

    5400m total
    I was burnt out by the 3rd interval so quit at 900m
    So these are my times to beat.

    Tomorrow will hopefully be a nice, slow 5km to recover.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Will be following your log with interest Ladytri! Baby Bungy is 9 months old - I've not been on my bike since 2010 and only make it to the pool occasionally so any spare time is going to be spent trying to improve my running. Found it really tough initially to get back training but signed up for a few races and getting back in the swing of things now. Best of luck with your goals and your log.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Thanks Bungy Girl and congratulations on baby bungy!
    Fair play to you getting out after 9 months. I tried to get a routine going a couple of times since she was 6 weeks old but this is the closest I've come to getting regular sessions in - running is just so much handier when you don't have much time. More bang for your buck!
    Swimming's not easy for me at the moment because I don't live near a pool but once the club get back into the lake I'd say I'll be tempted to join them. As for cycling - haven't sat on the saddle of a bike in a year and a half!
    Do you have a log? I'd love to keep up with your progress too:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Hi Ladytri,
    I did think about writing a log but I was afraid no one would read it and I'd just be talking to myself :o...I love reading other peoples though and find them really motivating. Agree with you on the running being the handiest now that time is tight (not sure what I did with my time before the baby tbh :confused:). I did buy a bike seat for Baby Bungy and she loves sitting in it with her helmet on even though I haven't plucked up the courage yet to actually cycle anywhere. Speak of the devil ... I'm being summoned by her majesty. Deffo go for the 24min 5K, race day adrenaline and a bit of competition will knock the 3 mins off for sure! Best of luck with it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    I'd read it! Would be cool to compare notes with someone who has a similar background and similar goals ... (not to mention suffers from broken sleep!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    'easy' 5k on Thursday, legs were still in ribbons from Wednesday's intervals:(

    Rest (and an aul bottle of vino) last night.

    Did my road 5k route this morning, the one that takes me about 27mins. Felt ok at the start, split time was looking good, 17 mins at the half way point which is mostly uphill but was disappointed to finish in 26.40. I feel tired every time I run. Just not in any kind of decent form yet.

    Tomorrow is 7.5k forest trails in the park which I'm looking forward to.

    Total mileage this week:
    Sun: 6.5. Mon: 5. Wed: 5.4. Thur: 5. Sat: 5
    26.9k!! Been a while since I did that kind of mileage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    LSR today.
    7.8km: 42mins.
    This felt really good, despite the fact I just had a fry up about an hour before hand. I think this is the first run I've actually enjoyed in a while, the forest park is in full bloom with wild garlic and bluebells so feeling pretty lucky to have such a nice spot to run at weekends.

    Plan for the week:
    Mon: 5km
    Tues: Rest
    Wed: Intervals: 1x 400, 1 x 800, 1 x 1200, 1x 800, 1 x 400 (3.6km total)
    Thurs: 5km slow
    Fri: 5km
    Sat: 8.5km
    Sun: rest

    Not sure how I should be doing these 5k's during the week but just keep trying to improve on times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭jb-ski


    Heeeeeeeeeey,

    welcome back!

    Look forward to seeing you in Leixlip.
    Don't kill yourself training over next 2 weeks, there's a long summer ahead for that.

    We'll have a nice cup of tea :) after the 5k,


    see you then, J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Ah Jb-ski, good to hear from ye!
    Really looking forward to the cakes run in Leixlip, been reading good things about your race. You going to be running yourself or are ye doing hospitality?

    I'm going to bust myself this week and take handy the following week, at least that's the plan in my head:)

    Looking forward to that cup of tea and a catch up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    [QUOTE

    Did my road 5k route this morning, the one that takes me about 27mins. Felt ok at the start, split time was looking good, 17 mins at the half way point which is mostly uphill but was disappointed to finish in 26.40.[/QUOTE]

    Spanner brain- just spotted this typo above, split was 12:40ish at halfway point!

    Anyway, back to tonight. Did my town 5k route (slightly longer version tonight of 5.3k but who's counting!) 27:43-I'm going backwards but I don't care because I really enjoyed it.

    Realised tonight I probably won't be able to make the group interval session on Wednesday so I'll have to do this on my own and that's not going to end well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭shazkea


    Best of luck with the new log and goals. You'll smash your 5km goal come race day, just enjoy being back out there and the training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    So missed the intervals run last night. Didn't get out at all due to sick baba.
    Plan is to try to do these tomorrow night now.

    This morning was a tough 5k in the park, very windy, no times which is just as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    It's been a disastrous couple of days with a sick baby so training not really a priority.

    But did get out this morning for my LSR which was just shy of 8.5k in 44.20.
    Haven't gotten much sleep the last 3 nights so was just glad to get out and clear the head. Did the first 5k in 26mins and slowed down a lot after that.

    Mileage for the week: 26k
    Plan for next week: Haven't a clue...catch up on sleep maybe...oh and run the le cheile 5k:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Hope Babytri is feeling better ? It's heartbreaking when they're sick. Good on ya for getting out for your long run in spite of that. I'm working on the basis that all miles are good miles at this stage, even if they're done in when you're half asleep and covered in pureed veg :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Not sure what I'll be able to fit in this week but went out this eve to do 5k trail in the forest park. Lovely evening, clocked 25:15 so happy enough with that.

    Hope to do club interval session on Wednesday but OH probably has to work late so not looking too good. All going well, I'll get a slow run on Thursday too to stretch the legs.

    Don't think I'll hit my target of 24 on Saturday but what about it, it'll be my babymama PB no matter what happens:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Club interval session

    900m W/U
    3 x 1mile reps with 2min rest
    900m C/D

    Intended trying these at 8min pace but:
    7.17 (waaay too fast)
    7.34 (still too fast)
    7.54 (just right)

    Bloody hard but it's over now. Just going to do an easy 2 miles or something tomorrow night to recover and stretch the legs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    So very short, slow jog last night. Legs were wrecked from Wednesday, too much too soon me thinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭claralara


    Best of luck tomorrow. Make sure to enjoy it. No doubt there are plenty of races in your future so take it handy getting back into it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    ladytri wrote: »
    Legs were wrecked from Wednesday, too much too soon me thinks.

    Maybe...but it shows you've got the speed to smash that 5K, so go for it and then put your feet up for a few days with a bottle of vino and a large bar of Cadbury's.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Lovely morning in Leixlip, well done to all the organisers for a really well run event.

    So had intended on getting in and around 24 mark but had to reassess that after running the 1st km way too slow and just couldn't catch up with myself! I'm really bad at pacing, I haven't done a 5k in years!

    I was a wee bit peaved to see the finish clock approaching 25 after horsing it around the grass track to the finish line. But after a cup of tea and a consolation cake I realised I'd crossed the timing mats well after the starters so chip time was 24.46. Not what I was hoping for but I have to put things into perspective,
    I've knocked almost 3 minutes off my time in 3 weeks and aside from my recent escapades I haven't done any run training in almost 2 years.

    So my next public declaration of intent is I'm gonna aim to break the 24 mark in another 5k around the 27th of may and hope to do the Curlew Warrior 10k at the end of June because it's literally on my doorstep- used to run the Curlews years ago for the Warriors Run and cycled them for the Wicklow 100.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Spent the rest of the bank holiday in Leixlip so tonight was my 1st run since le cheile.

    Planning on using HH intermediate 10k programme so started on week 2 tonight which should bring me up to the Curlew Warrior at the end of June.
    Not sure if the intermediate is a bit ambitious at this stage but I'll step it back if it feels too tough. I'm going to tweak it a bit because of time restrictions and sessions with the club. Also need to get some hill work in there too.

    3.5miles, easy pace. 29:02


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Club intervals

    Met the guys tonight for 8 x 400. Never did these before and really enjoyed it!

    W/U 900m
    1:36 / 1:37 / 1:37 / 1:39 / 1:40 / 1:40 / 1:39 / 1:37 all off 1 minute recovery.
    C/D 900m

    I had aimed to do these at 8 minute mile pace but 1st one felt good so I just kept pushing at that pace. Really frustrating that this and last night's run felt so good, feels like I underperformed on Saturday but lesson learnt.

    Tomorrow is supposed to be 4 miles and Friday rest but think I'll switch these around. Have to jiggle a few things this week actually, can't do long run on Sunday so I'll do that on Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Well done on the speed session ! I always feel like I'm going to hurl afterwards but it really does make a difference to your racing.
    Love Hal's programmes, I find if I'm not following some sort of plan or goal I'll just run around aimlessly and not really get anywhere. BTW do you wear a heart monitor ? I find it really helpful at the moment to make sure I don't kill myself on every run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    I do have a HRM but I NEVER use it! Jebus, don't even know where the strap is anymore. Might try to rig the thing up again if I can locate it though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    4 mile. Easy run. 34:45.

    Changing to miles is tricky - damn you Hal!
    One benefit of now having a race time from the le cheile run is I have something to gauge my paces for these runs by. But according to McMillan this should be at 9:43 - 10:13 pace, but this was more like 8:41 so again pacing a bit off, but it felt ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    The weekend was a bit of a disaster running wise, was having way too much fun drinking and eating.

    Tonight did another speed session with the club, and another new session for me, 20 minute tempo run.

    I kinda misunderstood what we were supposed to do and ended up only doing 18:45. The idea was to run 20 minutes at 90% effort over an out and back section of road measuring 950m each way. I covered 3.8km in 18:45, the first 1k at about 100% effort and was wrecked after that.

    But I got to go for a swim after which was amazing - haven't swam since I had babytri, had kept up swimming decent distances through pregnancy but without any kind of intensity so wasn't sure what kind of swim fitness would be there but breezed through 800 meters tonight and it felt goooood, waaay easier than this running malarky!

    Plan for the week is a bit all over the place and will be for the next 3 weeks as OH is working in Dublin so have no minder in the evenings but will drag the turbo trainer in if I have to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    4 mile. easy. 35:45

    Did this a bit closer to McMillians suggestion of 9:43. Not terribly exciting but enjoyable enough.

    Am going to TRY to do intervals on my own tomorrow because I can't meet the club in the evening but I'm not promising anything. Aim is for 4 x 800m.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Had to dig deep to find this log!

    It's been a hectic few weeks since I last logged, between OH's working away from home, my own work and general life stuff getting in the way so training had to get the cab door for a while.

    Only managed to get 4 runs in 3 weeks..eeek! Mostly 3 or 4 miles but got a nice 5 miler in today in 45:06 which felt...ok...ish. Haven't managed to get any speed work in and the club has changed the training time to 7.30am which is impossible for me with the wee one, it's a pity because I really enjoyed it:(

    Certainly need to re-evaluate some goals too- Curlew warrior is not going to happen as I'm going to be in Berlin. Weddings, Christenings and other unavoidable events are also playing havoc with my plans but hey-ho, that's life. I'll just keep tipping' away at it and hope to squeeze a couple of races in over the summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    3 miles @8:28

    This route around the town is my nemesis! Haven't run it in ages and it's still bloody tough, even for a recovery/easy run.

    So I'm going to try to pick up the HH programme again with a view to aiming for the race series 10km, which means I'm starting on week 3 now. Hopefully I'll be able to make this race but the way this summer is panning out that's certainly not guaranteed!

    Plan for the week:
    4M / 40min tempo / 3M / 60min Crosstraining / 6M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    4 miles @ 8:45

    Argh, what have I done?
    My ankle's a bit fecked tonight and I don't really know what it is. Felt a niggle in my left ankle before starting my runs the last 2 days but after tonight's run I can't really put any weight on it. There's no swelling or anything so I'm a bit at a loss as to what it is. Gonna take it handy for a day or two. Maybe running three days in a row after a few weeks break wasn't the best idea considering I'm not exactly in top shape!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,503 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Sounds like a trip to the physio is in order. Best to get these things looked after before they have the chance to become persistent problems. Can you stick to grass running in the meantime? Keep up the good work. You'll get there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Good to see you back posting ! Fell off the wagon a little myself with baby Bungy being sick and then as soon as she was better I got the same dose! Sorry to hear about your ankle but best to get it seen to as KC suggests if a bit of rest doesn't cure it. Hope babytri is doing well, is there a first birthday coming up :D ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Ankle feels better after a bit of taking it easy so decided to use the time to do some much neglected strength and core stuff. Pilates last night and intervals tonight before watching the match...posting now to distract myself from the carnage!

    I think you're right though KC, going to do a few runs on grass over the weekend and see how it feels but I'll see a physio if it hasn't improved.

    It's easy to fall off the wagon with the wee ones around Bungy Girl! Hope bab's is feeling better. We'd the first birthday a couple of weeks ago alright, great craic altogether, can't believe it's been a year, she's growing up so fast!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    4 miles @ 8:30

    Ankle felt ok so strapped it up and did 4 miles forest trails this morning with the dog. Really enjoyable run, can feel the benefits of this week's bit of training.

    Plan is for 6 miles tomorrow but we'll have to see how that goes...OH gets priority tomorrow and he's heading out for a long cycle so mightn't have time what with all the baking and pampering I'll have to do for fathers day:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    ...So I didn't get out for that 6 mile run 2 weeks ago. In fact I've only been out twice since then. But that's mainly because I was away drinking Weissbier and eating schnitzel for the past week, and I only had carry on luggage so no run for running gear:)

    20th June. 4 miles @ 8.35

    2nd July. 3 miles @ 8.25
    Had an awful stitch tonight for a while after about mile 1 I had to stop and walk it off for a bit. After that the 2nd half felt much easier than the first. My question is this: do you warm up for a while before you easy pace runs? I never do but I'm wondering should I, I do decent stretching but that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    4th July
    4 miles @ 8:50

    5th July
    Pilates

    Trying to keep the pace down for these runs, seem to be constantly running at the same pace though.
    I've done no speed work in weeks, since the club changed their training time to the mornings. BUT I've been pro-active and I'm trying to get a "gaggle of women", to coin the technical term:), to join me one evening a week for these sessions. Really miss running with a group and I'm getting nowhere on my own so I'm looking forward to the company.

    Heading away for a couple of days so no running til' Sunday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Hi ladytri, I always warm up before anything other than easy pace runs (which for me would be about 2 mins/mile slower than 10K race pace). So for any session involving more than a continuous plod, I would always start off very slow to warm up (60 - 65% of Max HR). Yes it's slow enough to elicit smart comments from the local cider-drinkers (yawn !) but I find it really helps keep stitches at bay (used to suffer very badly from them but not so much anymore). Maybe experiment a little with the timing of your eating to see if that makes a difference too ? I miss group training too, it's hard to get anyone to accompany you at baby-friendly times :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Thanks Bungy girl, you're definitely right about eating times, need to play around with that a little.

    It's been tricky getting time to log but in summary:
    Fridaystrength training
    Up home in Dublin for a few days and no minder so could only manage this session, no harm, it's something I always neglect!

    Sunday 4k easy
    First run with the ex Tri ladies, well 1 of them anyway... Drummed up 4 ladies who're keen to get back on the road but need to take it easy for a few runs for them to acclimatize.

    Tuesday 4 k easy
    Same as sun with 1 of the girls

    Thursday 3 miles @ 8:40
    On my own for this. Nice run, looking forward to trying to squeeze a longer run in tomorrow if I can. Away again this weekend so long run not guaranteed.

    On a different note, babytri started to walk eh, run this week. I kid you not, it's like guiding a drunk... her sense of balance and direction is non-existent! Kamikaze baby...
    So my question is do Saucony kinvara's come in infant sizes:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Brilliant re Babytri on the move, your nerves will be shot though ;) Baby Bungy is only a couple of weeks off walking I think but can crawl and climb at the speed of light. Batten down the hatches!
    Great that you'll have company for some of your runs at least. What's your next race ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    I'm reluctant to say Bungy Girl incase I jinx it! Every race I've wanted to do this summer has clashed with something else so just going to keep going, try to up the distances (and reduce the weight!!) and see if there's anything on locally that I can sneak in. There's a 5k next weekend that I might try, doubt I'll break the elusive 24 minutes but would be nice to do anyway.

    Mon. July 16th
    5km @ 8:40
    All grand apart from getting that bloody stitch again which reduced me from tortoise pace to snail's pace. I waited for 3 hours after eating before heading out. Anyone any advice on how to avoid these? Never used to get them but getting them on every run now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    Tuesday 5k @ 8:30

    No stitch tonight, turns out I just need to stop eating mansized portions:)
    Tried to do this kinda fartlek style as I'm plodding along a the same pace all the time and found my speedy bits very tough - BUT I'm meeting one of the girls tomorrow night for 8 x 400's so should be fun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭ladytri


    WED
    8 X 400M

    900M W/UP
    8 x 400's ranging from 1:33 to 1:45.
    These felt pretty hard and I thought I'd lost a lot of fitness since I did them last (think it was about May!!) but had a look back through the log and managed to keep in around the same times so gotta be happy with that...apart from the one horrific 1:45 rep but we'll not dwell too much on that.

    900M C/D


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