Was there a big robbery or something today?

snuggles09

only asking as we were away for a few days and were driving back through Kilsheelan on way back from Clonmel..I wasn't paying much attention but there was a Garda checkpoint ahead ( husband was driving, kids in the back) and we stopped at it..we were waved straight on but as we were going through there was a member of the Armed Response Unit with a big gun looking at all the cars and they were stopping nearly all the vans for a lot longer than the cars..husband thinks they were trying to catch someone either on way to or from Waterford/Clonmel

anyone hear anything? i'm so nosey:o

michellie

Yea there was a laptop robbed, something to do with the theatre royal I think. It's all over wlr. The play has to be cancelled because of it.

ziedth

Jesus, Credit Card details or something on the laptop maybe?

randox

Heard Michael Collins production was cancelled because the programming laptop was stolen from Theatre Royal.

eiresandra

Whilst a terrible crime in that it affected so many people, I wouldn't think the Armed Response Unit would be called out to deal with it.

snuggles09

eiresandra wrote: »

Whilst a terrible crime in that it affected so many people, I wouldn't think the Armed Response Unit would be called out to deal with it.

i was thinking the same thing..they meant business..i was thinking a drugs bust or something along those lines or if someone had robbed a post office

decies

Apparently some bloke dodged a fare on the luas :eek:

ex_infantry man

they had a checkpoint in new ross with them as well yesterday, think they just want a checkpoint to look impressive and let people know that the gardai have guns and nothing serious at all, and they would'nt have an armed checkpoint for a stolen laptop lol

d3exile

ex_infantry man wrote: »

they had a checkpoint in new ross with them as well yesterday, think they just want a checkpoint to look impressive and let people know that the gardai have guns and nothing serious at all, and they would'nt have an armed checkpoint for a stolen laptop lol

but they'd have one for nothing.... interesting theory

KillUreMan

The reason for the checkpoints the last few days has something to do with the dozen or more caravans that have moved in on the Carrickpherish road. A new crowd of rats have moved in. Anyone around the area be wary, the wife has family up that way and they're wicked worried as similar rats who have moved onto that road in the past were often up to no good if you get me.

kryogen

Thats gonna be a paddlin

laughter189

There were ARU checkpoints in many areas yesterday , including Carnaross , Cootehill , Dunleer

Sully

Something on in the tower anyway every enterance has a guard on it with unmarked and marked cars outside. Was also a tax and insurance check on the quay a little while ago. Was a car pulled over on tramore road earlier also.

They were also all in the chipper in ballybricken, if that helps

Personally, I say the household charge is working

cocoshovel

Armed officers sometimes just attend along side the traffic stops. Not sure why but Im sure its nothing too big.

I live in the middle of nowhere and have seen it a few times near me.

marlin vs

Armed Garda with water cannons up around the top of the town area, it could be something about the househols charges?

nkay1985

Sully wrote: »

Something on in the tower anyway every enterance has a guard on it with unmarked and marked cars outside. Was also a tax and insurance check on the quay a little while ago. Was a car pulled over on tramore road earlier also.

Phil Hogan was down there for a dinner tonight so it's more than likely that. There was a protest earlier, as far as I know.

marlin vs wrote: »

Armed Garda with water cannons up around the top of the town area, it could be something about the househols charges?

That's a very strange one. Where was this? I didn't know the Gardaí even had water cannons.

jmcc

marlin vs wrote: »

Armed Garda with water cannons up around the top of the town area, it could be something about the househols charges?

Someone probably mentioned some kind of wet taoiseach competition in the station?

Regards...jmcc

TheGormog

It's the American Rappers influencing gun culture amongst the Gardai. Ask any Superintendent in Cork and he'll tell you that the young recruits are only interested in 'blasting fools' and 'sticking caps in people's asses'.

Maybe if there was more trad music on MTV, we could revert to much gentler times. Times where you could question a suspect by hopping an 05 phonebook off his head. Maybe the yellow pages too if he was actin' the maggot.

We can but dream...

giles lynchwood

TheGormog wrote: »

It's the American Rappers influencing gun culture amongst the Gardai. Ask any Superintendent in Cork and he'll tell you that the young recruits are only interested in 'blasting fools' and 'sticking caps in people's asses'.

Maybe if there was more trad music on MTV, we could revert to much gentler times. Times where you could question a suspect by hopping an 05 phonebook off his head. Maybe the yellow pages too if he was actin' the maggot.

We can but dream...

Times have changed now they handcuff,pepper spray and kick you in the head while you are on the ground in that order and then arrest you.

dlofnep

It's to do with a number of caravans that have moved in just behind me from what I've heard. Someone was out in my back garden last night, dog started barking. So I've certainly weary.

There needs to be laws enforced here for parking up on the sides of roads. No notices, just removal straight away. By force if need be.

ILoveShoez

dlofnep wrote: »

It's to do with a number of caravans that have moved in just behind me from what I've heard. Someone was out in my back garden last night, dog started barking. So I've certainly weary.

There needs to be laws enforced here for parking up on the sides of roads. No notices, just removal straight away. By force if need be.

But apparently the Gardai left them into the site of the new schools, like WTF?!

Typhoon.

dlofnep wrote: »

It's to do with a number of caravans that have moved in just behind me

Moved in where ???

ILoveShoez

Typhoon. wrote: »

Moved in where ???

They moved in just across and up a bit from Frydays Chipper in Gracedieu.

They have gone since around lunch time though.

Autosport

Whats with all the caravans that are just off the Motorway in Waterford

kryogen

Autosport wrote: »

Whats with all the caravans that are just off the Motorway in Waterford

on the outer ring road or across the bridge?

Potential-Monke

The new RSU (Regional Support Unit) are based in Waterford and Cahir and cover the southern region. They have their own duties, but also assist with checkpoints if required.

The Gardai at the Tower Hotel 2 nights ago was for Phil Hogans Labour Party conference, and there were household charge protestors down there. From what i heard, the Labour crowd were far worse than the protestors. The protestors were chanting the usual, normal stuff. The Labour crowd were calling them scumbags. Tax money well spent.

As for the "rats" as someone so eloquently called them, if they move into somewhere illegally, they are served with a notice which gives them 24 hours to move or the caravans will be towed. The were moved from Ferrybank initially, then they went up by Frydays, and hunted from there yesterday. But i believe they set up camp out near the Port last night.

Personally, i believe that the notice should be immediate, balls to this 24 hour notice crap. I hate them, believing they can do what they want. And i couldn't care less if i sound discriminatory, but nobody wants them around, as they are nothing but trouble. And, unlike other "minority" groups, it's the majority that are bad apples. Prove me otherwise.

Nypd

I agree with the statements above, a harder faster firmer hand should be enforced with the travellers,
For far to long they have been running this country using fear and intimidation as tactics.
Look at the cut of them going round the town with their muscles and tans and new cars, thinking they are above the law.
A well known traveller got a six month suspended sentence this week for hammering the piss out of a student.
Yet he has been involved in a string of incidents.
The armed unit being based in Waterforf is a good thing, fingers crossed they shot one of the bastads.
Minority my arse.

Autosport

kryogen wrote: »

on the outer ring road or across the bridge?

Outer ring road

dlofnep

Heard ambulance and squad cars, possibly fire engine too tonight by WIT? Anyone know what happened?

allthedoyles

There was a lot of activity today on the Tramore Road , about 1/2 mile out .

Gardai were there and many many caravans parked in off the road .

dlofnep

allthedoyles wrote: »

There was a lot of activity today on the Tramore Road , about 1/2 mile out .

Gardai were there and many many caravans parked in off the road .

That must have been it.

giles lynchwood

There is a trailer trash wedding in town on wed,a local mink and a mink from Clonmel are getting hitched,could be some of the guest's here early to pull a few stroke's.

Professey Chin

giles lynchwood wrote: »

There is a trailer trash wedding in town on wed,a local mink and a mink from Clonmel are getting hitched,could be some of the guest's here early to pull a few stroke's.

Oh Christ.
/gets riot gear

looksee

Lol, there was a wedding one day last week with a couple of open vintage cars. Bride in one, followed by another with a matching set of mahogany bridesmaids! Must have been 4 or 5 bottles of tan each!

daenerysstormborn3

They're set up on the port road now unfortunately.

Professey Chin

Wonder which hotel actually took it

Sully

Potential-Monke wrote: »

The new RSU (Regional Support Unit) are based in Waterford and Cahir and cover the southern region. They have their own duties, but also assist with checkpoints if required.

Since when? I was of the understanding that Waterford wasn't part of the Southern Region and the area of operations is Cork City, Cork North, Cork West, Limerick and Kerry (Southern Garda Region). Must have changed, would be good news if it was.

The Gardai at the Tower Hotel 2 nights ago was for Phil Hogans Labour Party conference, and there were household charge protestors down there. From what i heard, the Labour crowd were far worse than the protestors. The protestors were chanting the usual, normal stuff. The Labour crowd were calling them scumbags. Tax money well spent.

The Labour Party conference was in Galway, not Waterford. The Minister was in the Tower to address a meeting of Local Authority members. Did get jeered alright tho by those opposed to the household tax.

Its strange that people are protesting against the current government and never bothered protesting against the previous government, which were far worse and put us into this mess. Even with the conferences recently - FG & Lab got a lot of abusive supporters and hardly anybody turned up to the Fianna Fail one. Bizarre.

Professey Chin

Sully wrote: »

Its strange that people are protesting against the current government and never bothered protesting against the previous government, which were far worse and put us into this mess. Even with the conferences recently - FG & Lab got a lot of abusive supporters and hardly anybody turned up to the Fianna Fail one. Bizarre.

And the current government was voted in with the hope that a change would be good. Instead its the exact same with more broken promises already then can be counted. FG and lab get a lot of abuse because its deserved.

A nice little recap of their 1st year was posted in a couple of other forums

To summarise, so far in just over a year we have had of FG and Labour

* Irish people are left with a full 1.5 BILLION bill.
(Because FG/Labour won't hold to account the religious orders)

* Refusing to say if or not, they are still having meetings with shysters named in the Mahon report!

* Their cronyism blankly continues.

* They break even their own wage rules with awarded massive hikes.

* They refuse to hold to account those that have been deemed bad in the Mahon report
(...And as such by in-action, what a waste of money that was!)

* Cancelled six other investigations!
(Possibly because some of their own involved yet again?)

* They have TOTALLY reversed positions on many, many areas and particular topics.

* They have invented many a new tax, charge, payment, levy or whatever name they can think up by the month.

* They are price fixing the cost of drink!
(As in their own FG manifesto, by side-effect, in aiding bars to see rake more profits alone - but never mentioning ANYTHING about teens - but thats the excuse now!)

* They have jumped like good little lapdogs at every order from French/German masters.
(Even more than once, giving them budget details before even the Irish people get them!)

* Reversed position on Third level fees!

* Still paying out to the Bondholders.

* Sourcing data from household bills, possibly breaking European privacy laws!

* Making paycuts to some public servants while uping their own expenses and inventing more for themselves.

* Changed the Dail clocking in system so they can exploit it in a number of ways - even if they are not actually there!

* Refusing so far to hold Mr Ahern to further account!

* Changed their position on corporate donations!

* Changed their position on the number of TD's needed!

* Stalled on the 16 years report about changes much needed to fathers rights!

* Refusing to change rule 68 of the national schools (religion related) and rule 69, which is purely sexist!

* Stalling (hoping we will forget?) over the matter of the Seanad - still instead using it to reward their own!

* Made a total fcuk-up of the household charge!

* Made a total fcuk-up of the turf-cutting issue!

* Dropped the climate change bill in November 2011

* Slaughtered Garda resources and numbers!

* Reversed the addressing of the (too) many quango's. Using them instead to place their own people on them!

* FG and Lab Manifestos: stated there would be vetting of appointments to state boards by the Oireachtas.
Now? Example: Party political appointments have been made, without any oversight or transparency. In October 2011, they appointed the former head of AIB Investment Management as head of the New Era quango, without revealing her pay or conditions.

* Addressing further the Freedom of Information act? Become non-existent. Vanished!
Instead rushed through and totally fcuked up laws pertaining to the internet, right of use giving cut-off powers to a semi-state body that is also possibly breaking European law!

Dan133269

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

Wonder which hotel actually took it

Sign of the times anyway, most hotels would normally avoid them with a bargepole. Now, they're probably in such need of business that they are balancing the risk/reward ratio of allowing them have a function.

On an unrelated topic, sales of baseball bats at Alfie Hale's sportshop have gone through the roof.

daenerysstormborn3

Jeez, really hope the Rhu Glenn didn't take it.

dlofnep

Sully wrote: »

Its strange that people are protesting against the current government and never bothered protesting against the previous government, which were far worse and put us into this mess. Even with the conferences recently - FG & Lab got a lot of abusive supporters and hardly anybody turned up to the Fianna Fail one. Bizarre.

Fianna Fáil were hit where it counts, in the elections. That's why. And to say nobody protested against Fianna Fáil is a blatant lie.

Sully

dlofnep wrote: »

Fianna Fáil were hit where it counts, in the elections. That's why. And to say nobody protested against Fianna Fáil is a blatant lie.

Not in the same numbers at all.

dlofnep

Sully wrote: »

Not in the same numbers at all.

If Fianna Fáil was still in Government, their Ard Fheis would be hit just as hard. But they are not - the public hit them where it hurts. FG and Labour are being protested against for their current policies. Keyword here being current.

Sully

dlofnep wrote: »

If Fianna Fáil was still in Government, their Ard Fheis would be hit just as hard. But they are not - the public hit them where it hurts. FG and Labour are being protested against for their current policies. Keyword here being current.

Yes, but it was Fianna Fail who forced the government into this and the country as a whole. They are the cause of many of the hardships that are faced by the people and the reason why Fine Gael are implementing such hardships. They never faced as much anger in the past and they should have been hit just as hard right now as a reminder that the people haven't forgotten.

old gregg

FF got the country into the mess that exists for future generations. FG/Labour didn't have the courage or integrity to stand up on behalf of those people it now represents and make those who gambled and lost pay. Instead, our government have taken the coward's way out and hit the people of Ireland. I actually resent the FG/Labour cowards more than the FF scumbags.

Sully

The Great Chinholio wrote: »

And the current government was voted in with the hope that a change would be good. Instead its the exact same with more broken promises already then can be counted. FG and lab get a lot of abuse because its deserved.

A nice little recap of their 1st year was posted in a couple of other forums

To summarise, so far in just over a year we have had of FG and Labour

* Irish people are left with a full 1.5 BILLION bill.
(Because FG/Labour won't hold to account the religious orders)

Early days yet. The amount they owe is €200 million and the state are currently and actively pushing to get this.

* Refusing to say if or not, they are still having meetings with shysters named in the Mahon report!

Everyone who was asked, has responded pretty much instantly. Only one Government TD withheld an answer until the weekend due to his position in the government as Justice Minister and issues over the Independent Media group. He has confirmed he did not meet with him.

* Their cronyism blankly continues.

Not sure we will ever stamp this out, but its something I would agree needs to be addressed.

* They break even their own wage rules with awarded massive hikes.

Not as widespread as previous administrations and done in certain cases. Probably was a "take it or leave it" with those, who the government felt were best suited for the job, were going to "leave it". I don't mind it much but there is a lot of confusion and anger over this that needs to be addressed.

* They refuse to hold to account those that have been deemed bad in the Mahon report
(...And as such by in-action, what a waste of money that was!)

Where did they refuse? Where has someone not been held accountable by the government? Also, the waste of money has nothing to do with the current administration.

* Cancelled six other investigations!
(Possibly because some of their own involved yet again?)

Pending a report due in the next few weeks.

* They have TOTALLY reversed positions on many, many areas and particular topics.

In some areas, yes. Partly bound due to budget restrictions set by previous administration and to avoid targeting particular areas that will cause a lot of additional upset and pain.

[qupte]* They have invented many a new tax, charge, payment, levy or whatever name they can think up by the month.[/quote]

News to me! Household Charge & Water charge has been on the cards well before this government came in and is common across Europe. Saying that, the house hold charge was poorly thought out and rushed.

* They are price fixing the cost of drink!
(As in their own FG manifesto, by side-effect, in aiding bars to see rake more profits alone - but never mentioning ANYTHING about teens - but thats the excuse now!)

No price fixing has been introduced but this is in reference to a report suggesting that amongst numerous other measures. Its targeting the off licences which are providing very cheap drink to people. We have an issue with drink, we all know it, and the government are looking at ways to cut down on alcohol abuse.

* They have jumped like good little lapdogs at every order from French/German masters.
(Even more than once, giving them budget details before even the Irish people get them!)

With respect, they are bailing us out. We do have to follow the proposals and requirements set down by the EU/IMF. An agreement that was introduced by a previous administration, Fianna Fail. Negotiations on the agreement have taken place since taking office which has seen significant advantages to Ireland and are still be addressed.

* Reversed position on Third level fees!

Labour has, but a lot of people knew at the time Labour were just doing an election gimmick. It was widely discussed as just a gimmick. There was no way students were never going to be hit and even the USI are coming around to agreeing on this position despite heavily protesting against it.

* Still paying out to the Bondholders.

Sadly so, and there are many arguments for and against including paying them out to get a better deal on the Anglo promissory notes (which has partly been completed)

* Sourcing data from household bills, possibly breaking European privacy laws!

This has not been brought in and appears to be shelved.

* Making paycuts to some public servants while uping their own expenses and inventing more for themselves.

They have had paycuts, not enough many would agree, and are subject to the same level of taxation on their wages as everyone else. Some argue that because its not a job for life, and you can be booted out in four years or less, this is why your paid higher. Plus, as you know in both the private and public sector many are paid very high wages for their jobs and get to avail of expenses. Generally in bigger firms.

As for the expenses - even Sinn Fein exploit this. Remember the ink gate scandal? A lot of money spent on ink and no record of other expenses related to it including paper usage. There is no new expenses brought in by the current administration but I do agree that the system is open to abuse and should be restricted in areas but not abolished.

* Changed the Dail clocking in system so they can exploit it in a number of ways - even if they are not actually there!

Was never aware of this. Many TDs, including opposition TDs, are regularly reported not to have fobbed into the Dail but are proven to be present anyway (they just didn't fob in. Example; Luke 'Ming' Flannagan. Independent)

* Refusing so far to hold Mr Ahern to further account!

Thats not something the government have any power to do and is subject to an investigation by the DPP, as the government have sent the report to them for investigation.

* Changed their position on corporate donations!

* Changed their position on the number of TD's needed!

There has yet to be a referendum on this and other maters, and nothing has been confirmed. But, based on the census figures indicating a rise in population there may be some changes to the proposal. Indeed, the government has already indicated there will be big changes but there is a constitutional restriction a minimum of one TD for every 30,000 of population meant that 13 was the maximum reduction.

* Stalled on the 16 years report about changes much needed to fathers rights!

Again, early days. One such change being implement is ensuring that the fathers name is listed on the birth certificate. The rights of grandparents is also actively being looked at.

* Refusing to change rule 68 of the national schools (religion related) and rule 69, which is purely sexist!

Source? 50% of all catholic schools, its expected, will be transferred out of Roman Catholic patronage. There has been nothing said, that I recall or can find, about rule 68 not being scraped. The latest is that it has been recommended to be scrapped - a report released only a few days ago.

* Stalling (hoping we will forget?) over the matter of the Seanad - still instead using it to reward their own!

Who said it was going to be done instantly? It will be done in the term of the government so its not a broken promise. We have more important referendums and any agreement to abolish it cant be instant anyway. There are far more pressing issues to deal with, the European Stability Treaty and the one on children’s rights.

* Made a total fcuk-up of the household charge!

* Made a total fcuk-up of the turf-cutting issue!

Agreed.

* Dropped the climate change bill in November 2011

Not dropped - on hold. Other environmental issues are being dealt with first including septic tank and water charges.

* Slaughtered Garda resources and numbers!

Don't think numbers were cut, still the same amount of Guards just the quieter stations closed up but resources has been cut. Tough cookie but part of a cost saving measure

* Reversed the addressing of the (too) many quango's. Using them instead to place their own people on them!

Good few scrapped so far.

* FG and Lab Manifestos: stated there would be vetting of appointments to state boards by the Oireachtas.
Now? Example: Party political appointments have been made, without any oversight or transparency. In October 2011, they appointed the former head of AIB Investment Management as head of the New Era quango, without revealing her pay or conditions.

Don't know anything about this but various appointments have been publicly advertised, for the first time every, under the current government. Not enough tho.

* Addressing further the Freedom of Information act? Become non-existent. Vanished!
Instead rushed through and totally fcuked up laws pertaining to the internet, right of use giving cut-off powers to a semi-state body that is also possibly breaking European law!

FOI is still there. The law introduced re: internet - rushed and stupid. But under review.

Potential-Monke

Sully wrote: »

Since when? I was of the understanding that Waterford wasn't part of the Southern Region and the area of operations is Cork City, Cork North, Cork West, Limerick and Kerry (Southern Garda Region). Must have changed, would be good news if it was.

Sorry, bad wording on my behalf. South-Eastern region: mainly Waterford and Tipp, but covering Kilkenny/Carlow too.

Sully wrote: »

The Labour Party conference was in Galway, not Waterford. The Minister was in the Tower to address a meeting of Local Authority members. Did get jeered alright tho by those opposed to the household tax.

Again, my bad, just knew it was something to do with Labour and that tw@ leading them. All i know is that the Ministers cronies were way more aggressive and insulting than the protestors.

=Sully wrote: »

Its strange that people are protesting against the current government and never bothered protesting against the previous government, which were far worse and put us into this mess. Even with the conferences recently - FG & Lab got a lot of abusive supporters and hardly anybody turned up to the Fianna Fail one. Bizarre.

I suppose things are getting so bad now that people are beginning to get balls and protest. We were always known to take it and do nothing, and no real point in protesting those who don't have the power at the moment. Times are a changing!

kryogen

There was a pretty big armed Gardai presence at the courthouse earlier on, anyone know what was going on?

Luckycharms_74

Yeah I wondered too. I just passed there at 2:30. The guards were at the gates with the Armed Response Unit & their guns

daenerysstormborn3

Presumably a high risk prisoner appearing in Court? Maybe something to do with the knife attack last week?

sunnysoutheast

pixiebean22 wrote: »

Presumably a high risk prisoner appearing in Court? Maybe something to do with the knife attack last week?

Anything to do with this?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0417/co-waterford-bus-driver-admits-defiling-girl.html