Army Recruitment - Questions Thread

Poccington

Right so, basically a thread for folks who are currently attempting to join the Army as Recruits to ask questions about the application process, Recruit training, life after you've finished training etc.

Should hopefully help the forum avoid being clogged up by thread after thread of questions. Plus, with a few serving Army members on here it's a specific thread for people to ask questions to people who've been there and done that.

Onanon

Around what date is the fitness assessment likely to take place? I had an ingrown toenail removed, and won't be training for a while.

Will having been prescribed antidepressants in the past automatically disqualify me from serving? If it won't, is there a certain time you have be off them to be considered fit for service?

Had internships with businesses in the past. Will the operations management, teamwork and communications skills I learned be relevant to the recruitment process? Or should I focus on my team sports involvement, athletics and judo?

Most of what I'm doing in college is working with others to learn difficult or technical material. Is it a continual self-improvement culture in the Army?

Thanks.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Onanon wrote: »

Around what date is the fitness assessment likely to take place? I had an ingrown toenail removed, and won't be training for a while.

I wont know until Monday but will get back to you if Pocc or someone doesnt first.

Will having been prescribed antidepressants in the past automatically disqualify me from serving? If it won't, is there a certain time you have be off them to be considered fit for service?

This is something that is up to you to declare. Im not sure of the ramifications but if you were taken off them by a doctor and have no side effects or dependance on the tabs you might be ok. I am not in the Medical Corps so dont take my word as gospel.


Had internships with businesses in the past. Will the operations management, teamwork and communications skills I learned be relevant to the recruitment process? Or should I focus on my team sports involvement, athletics and judo?

Mention at length all of the above. The panel will want to hear examples of your management, teamwork and communication skills. They are very important. Sports are very important also, mention everything. The more comprehensively you talk, the better the interview will be. Be confident but not arrogant in your speaking.

Most of what I'm doing in college is working with others to learn difficult or technical material. Is it a continual self-improvement culture in the Army?

The army favours people to self improve, whether in work or in civvy street.

Thanks.

Make sure you research what the DF does, it's roles at home and abroad. It is imperrative that you have a good knowledge of what we are and what we do.

Best of luck.

beco2010

just thought i would ask about Psychometric Testing is this being used for bouth army and navy now as it says this on there web page,

Praetorian Saighdiuir

beco2010 wrote: »

just thought i would ask about Psychometric Testing is this being used for bouth army and navy now as it says this on there web page,

It is for the army anyway. I would presume it will be used across the board. There is no sense in only doing it for one branch of the DF.

CIGANO

Anyone here have any experience on the Psychometric test and what it will entail. From looking at Google it appears they are job specific which means the ones on-line would surely differ from a military geared one or am I wrong ?

c-90

i have a few questions.....

1, what kind of questions are asked in the interview.

2, when can you expect your first weekend off?

3, Are phones allowed in the evening?

4, what are the typical workday hours eg revely 0600 to 2200???
(what im trying to get at is how long do you have to iron your uniform polish boots ect.)

5, what are instructors attitudes against ex rdf or do they even know who is?

chubbysteve18

Hi I have just applied for the army and navy general enlistment this year.

I am just curious to know does anyone know the time frame this year for the assessment processes. Even a rough estimate would be greatly appreciated.

Poccington

c-90 wrote: »

i have a few questions.....

1, what kind of questions are asked in the interview.

2, when can you expect your first weekend off?

3, Are phones allowed in the evening?

4, what are the typical workday hours eg revely 0600 to 2200???
(what im trying to get at is how long do you have to iron your uniform polish boots ect.)

5, what are instructors attitudes against ex rdf or do they even know who is?

1. Fairly typical ones, the roles of the Defence Forces, current Overseas missions etc. then you'll be asked for examples of when you've showed leadership qualities, when you've worked under pressure, how you work as part of team and what not. The interview is nothing crazy, just be sure to have a knowledge of the DF and what it's about.

2. Completely dependant on the Training Staff, your Pln Commander and Pln Sgt especially, plus how your Platoon performs. Generally speaking, you'll most likely get the first or second weekend off purely as you'll have stuff to pick up etc. after that though, you're at the mercy of your Pln Commander and Pln Sgt.

3. Again, completely dependant on your Training Staff. Personally speaking, we handed out phones up on our first parade in the morning, where they'd go into an ammo box and the box would go into the Training Office. When we'd see them again depended on how we performed during the day.

4. This really is gonna be a phrase you're gonna see alot but it's really upto your Training Staff. Generally speaking, the day starts at between 0530-0600 when you'll get up and start cleaning etc. and lights out at roughly 2300. However, many things can happen in a day and I really wouldn't set my heart on a start and finish time. I remember one night I got to bed after 0300 in the morning, then another morning where I woke up at 0600 to be told we had 10 minutes to get outside for a Battle PT. A Recruit's life is hectic and you can expect to be working after lights out regularly.

5. Yes, they'll know your ex RDF. How they react to that will mostly depend on you. If you want to act like a know it all, you can expect to suffer for it. If you do your bit just like everyone else, be clean, be on time, don't be last on PT's and be ready to always learn, you'll be fine. Personally speaking, I got on perfectly fine, the same can't be said for other members of my Platoon who took the know it all option when it came to their former RDF life.

c-90

thanks man, one last thing. would using the rdf for examples in the interweiw come off as cocky or should i look for different examples

Praetorian Saighdiuir

c-90 wrote: »

thanks man, one last thing. would using the rdf for examples in the interweiw come off as cocky or should i look for different examples

Id say use them. It would demonstrate that you have a good military knowledge and that you are able to implement what you were previously taught.

However, do have other examples, I would not want to rely solely on RDF experiences.

CIGANO

It was just on RTE news 6800 have already applied for the 600 places and still nearly a week to go. They interviewed one guy who stated that a job in the DF never appealed to him but because of the recession he would apply, hopefully people like that will be weeded out.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

CIGANO wrote: »

It was just on RTE news 6800 have already applied for the 600 places and still nearly a week to go. They interviewed one guy who stated that a job in the DF never appealed to him but because of the recession he would apply, hopefully people like that will be weeded out.

Unfortunately in the current climate, we will get all types of applicants. I would prefer to get someone who always had an interest in the DF. I just hope people they are not using it to bridge a gap while waiting for something better to come over the horizon.

"Over qualified people" are great on paper but if their heart is not really in the job, they wont last long which is a waste of a spot in a Platoon.

As soon as the cold, late nights, early mornings and beastings start its a different story.

I just hope the people that are accepted, want it.

CIGANO

benwavner wrote: »

Unfortunately in the current climate, we will get all types of applicants. I would prefer to get someone who always had an interest in the DF. I just hope people they are not using it to bridge a gap while waiting for something better to come over the horizon.

"Over qualified people" are great on paper but if their heart is not really in the job, they wont last long which is a waste of a spot in a Platoon.

As soon as the cold, late nights, early mornings and beastings start its a different story.

I just hope the people that are accepted, want it.

Hopefully the people that really want/deserve it will be spotted in the interview. And as you said the people that only see it as a job to tide them over will find it very hard to motivate themselves when they are freezing their balls off (no offence to any females applying, they will also feel the cold ) on the side of a mountain. I think the DF will be prepared for these people applying, no point in having a couple of hundred graduates leaving in a few years if the jobs market in the civi world ever picks up.

beco2010

just to ask, i'v aplied to the army but also the navy will this come across as if i have no commitment to ether

investment

If anyone wants to do some training before their fitness assessment contact me by P.M
We offer a training service taught by an experienced group of instructors

beco2010

investment wrote: »

If anyone wants to do some training before their fitness assessment contact me by P.M
We offer a training service taught by an experienced group of instructors

put this fella back in the cage :mad:

Praetorian Saighdiuir

investment wrote: »

If anyone wants to do some training before their fitness assessment contact me by P.M
We offer a training service taught by an experienced group of instructors

LOL

JayJay123

Hi! I just have a few questions about applying etc any help wold be hugely appreciated!

Is there a minimum amount of women they take in or is it just a case of whoever is succesfull or not?
In my application where can I mention I play gaelic football and soccer? I dont see a space for it.
I dont have any college qualifications,(worked since I left school..im now 23) and I was made redundant 2 years ago and have only had one temporary job in that time.. will it matter that I have been unemployed for that long? Also do they ring your places of work for refrences?

Also any help with the layout of the interview, what is asked etc would be so helpfull!

Again any help would be very much appreciated

Thanks

Poccington

Investment, if you post your ****e in this thread or another serious topic in this forum again you'll be banned for a week.

Poccington

JayJay123 wrote: »

Hi! I just have a few questions about applying etc any help wold be hugely appreciated!

Is there a minimum amount of women they take in or is it just a case of whoever is succesfull or not?
In my application where can I mention I play gaelic football and soccer? I dont see a space for it.
I dont have any college qualifications,(worked since I left school..im now 23) and I was made redundant 2 years ago and have only had one temporary job in that time.. will it matter that I have been unemployed for that long? Also do they ring your places of work for refrences?

Also any help with the layout of the interview, what is asked etc would be so helpfull!

Again any help would be very much appreciated

Thanks

1. No, there is no quota for the amount of women they take on.
2. You'll get plenty of time to tell them about it at the interview stage.
3. I wouldn't imagine so, for the DF to prejudice against people for being unemployed in the current climate would be madness. I'd imagine it won't be an issue.
4. Not too sure if they do actually? I don't think so.
5. For the interview, as above, you'll be expected to know about the DF and it's roles. Also, have examples ready for when you've worked under pressure, worked in a team, shown leadership etc.

investment

JayJay123 wrote: »

Hi! I just have a few questions about applying etc any help wold be hugely appreciated!

Is there a minimum amount of women they take in or is it just a case of whoever is succesfull or not?
In my application where can I mention I play gaelic football and soccer? I dont see a space for it.
I dont have any college qualifications,(worked since I left school..im now 23) and I was made redundant 2 years ago and have only had one temporary job in that time.. will it matter that I have been unemployed for that long? Also do they ring your places of work for refrences?

Also any help with the layout of the interview, what is asked etc would be so helpfull!

Again any help would be very much appreciated

Thanks

To many qualified people applying son

Seen a guy from TCD on the news last night applying;)

You would be better training and gaining some more experience. You have been living off the state for the last two years while you could have gone to college and gain some knowledge. You now expect to get a handy job in the army with a pension.

mikeym

With the high amount applying both the army and the navy can be very picky.

Imo if you don't pass the fitness test you haven't tried hard enough.

Poccington

As promised, Investment has been banned for a week.

bandybanter

Is there an age limit extension for RDF members, I recall there being one for the Cadetships a few years back. I'm 26. I have applied for the Navy but would like to apply for the Army too.

Poccington

bandybanter wrote: »

Is there an age limit extension for RDF members, I recall there being one for the Cadetships a few years back. I'm 26. I have applied for the Navy but would like to apply for the Army too.

No, unfortunately there isn't.

bandybanter

Well the Navy it is, so!!

JayJay123

investment wrote: »

To many qualified people applying son

Seen a guy from TCD on the news last night applying;)

You would be better training and gaining some more experience. You have been living off the state for the last two years while you could have gone to college and gain some knowledge. You now expect to get a handy job in the army with a pension.

I dont know why Im even replying to your stupid post but reading it just made me so angry... I dont expect anyone let alone myself to just "get a handy job in the army with a pension"
It wasnt my choice to be "living off the state for the last two years" and do you think people who havent went to college dont have knowledge or experience??

Idiot

Dogwatch

JayJay123 wrote: »

I dont know why Im even replying to your stupid post but reading it just made me so angry... I dont expect anyone let alone myself to just "get a handy job in the army with a pension"
It wasnt my choice to be "living off the state for the last two years" and do you think people who havent went to college dont have knowledge or experience??

Idiot

Ignore this fool......He has been banned for a week by the Mods. Look in the Walter Mitty sub forum at the Psyco intense training thread. You will understand him better.

Go for PDF if that is what you want. You may be good enough but he certainly is not!!

JayJay123

Dogwatch wrote: »

Ignore this fool......He has been banned for a week by the Mods. Look in the Walter Mitty sub forum at the Psyco intense training thread. You will understand him better.

Go for PDF if that is what you want. You may be good enough but he certainly is not!!

Thanks Dogwatch, I had a look there.. I now see the light!

How do I apply for PDF?

Turbine

JayJay123 wrote: »

How do I apply for PDF?

Not bein bad here but if you need help with that, you may as well not bother...

JayJay123

Turbine wrote: »

JayJay123 wrote: »

How do I apply for PDF?

Not bein bad here but if you need help with that, you may as well not bother...

I meant where.

minidazzler

JayJay123 wrote: »

I meant where.

http://www.candidatemanager.net/CM/Micro/JobList.aspx?&mid=YDUU&sid=EVAZAZ&a=0iT+rf2ap2U=

SasQuatch88

Just a quick little question, but I'm not the strongest of swimmers, will this be detrimental for me down the line if i successfully make the cut?

goldie fish

SasQuatch88 wrote: »

Just a quick little question, but I'm not the strongest of swimmers, will this be detrimental for me down the line if i successfully make the cut?

If your job requires you to swim, you will be properly instructed how to do it the army way.

SasQuatch88

Excellent.. cheers Goldie

beco2010

beco2010 wrote: »

just to ask, i'v aplied to the army but also the navy will this come across as if i have no commitment to ether

i just needed to ask this again

Poccington

SasQuatch88 wrote: »

Just a quick little question, but I'm not the strongest of swimmers, will this be detrimental for me down the line if i successfully make the cut?

I spent the full 28 weeks of training getting thrown in the sea pretty much every day, while not knowning how to swim. You'll be fine.

beco2010 wrote: »

i just needed to ask this again

No, you should be fine.

moonbloom

can you apply for df if you are colour blind?.

minidazzler

moonbloom wrote: »

can you apply for df if you are colour blind?.

You can apply, but unless you did something dishonest like memorise the correct answers which correspond to the correct Ishihara plate then you won't get in...

Also, to the swimmer guy, why not spend the next while improving your swimming technique? It's one of the things that people should learn before they turn 5. It could save your life whether you are in the army or not.



<disclaimer>Not in DF, just some general advice</disclaimer>

SasQuatch88

Poccington wrote: »

I spent the full 28 weeks of training getting thrown in the sea pretty much every day, while not knowning how to swim. You'll be fine.


Cheers Poc... Puts me at ease a good bit.. but not enough to drown haha
Will work on the swimming when available.

Local-womanizer

Swimming is a fancy name for not drowning in an aquatic environment!

SasQuatch88

One more question.. (for now)
My BMI is currently at 30, I know that's the max the army allows and I know It's not an accurate system..
but would the medical centre do a caliper test as im at 30?
I'm by all means not a fat ****e or anything... may be lugging around a few extra pounds but they wont be there for long..
I've seen people twice my width and weight less ya know..:D
So to recap my question is:
Will the Army do a Caliper test as I'm at 30 BMI

Praetorian Saighdiuir

SasQuatch88 wrote: »

One more question.. (for now)
My BMI is currently at 30, I know that's the max the army allows and I know It's not an accurate system..
but would the medical centre do a caliper test as im at 30?
I'm by all means not a fat ****e or anything... may be lugging around a few extra pounds but they wont be there for long..
I've seen people twice my width and weight less ya know..:D
So to recap my question is:
Will the Army do a Caliper test as I'm at 30 BMI

They will first note your height / weight and age and gain a rough BMI using a scale chart.

If you are over the BMI they will do an accurate test with the calipers.

It wasn't me!

What is the BMI limit before they do a callipers test? I'm typically around 26-26.5, which is over the 25 normal line, but that's when I'm in my best shape.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

It wasn't me! wrote: »

What is the BMI limit before they do a callipers test? I'm typically around 26-26.5, which is over the 25 normal line, but that's when I'm in my best shape.

ASFAIK it is 30 is the max.

linky

KickstartHeart

JayJay123 wrote: »

I dont know why Im even replying to your stupid post but reading it just made me so angry... I dont expect anyone let alone myself to just "get a handy job in the army with a pension"
It wasnt my choice to be "living off the state for the last two years" and do you think people who havent went to college dont have knowledge or experience??

Idiot

I agree with you there JayJay. Your last word in that post is well suited. It baffles me to see that people in Ireland still think the Army is a handy job.

One does not simply have an easy time in any army let alone an operational European one like the Irish Army.

As I said in a previous post to a PDF basher who was ignorant enough to call people idiots but actually believed most of the Irish Army hadn't ever been overseas; Ireland, UK, and the Americans are the highest contributors of troops (8% of their forces) for operations overseas that are signed up for the NATO PfP. You must be completely daft if you think the Irish Army is "handy". It may be small, but percentage-wise and man for man, its literally one of the most operational armies in the world.

People applying should make no mistake. Your'e trying to join a real army, that goes on real, dangerous operations, trains hell hard, and is incredibly professional and strict. Don't expect an easy time at all. Especially in recruit training. I'm not in the Army but I've studied this stuff in college when looking at EU defence. When academics write about the Irish Army in a good light, and you actually talk to people who have done recruit training, its fair to say that the Afghan war fan boys and begrudgers on this site who just assume with no knowledge that the Irish Army is easy or not a real army are blatantly wrong. Prepare for joining the Irish Army just as you would joining any army, and you'll be fine
Anyway, rant over...


Anyone know when the first recruit platoons of the 600 are due to start? And are they all going to be trained in the DFTC or will they be trained at brigade level? - I'm asking because applicants aren't applying to brigades anymore, rather the army as a whole, so its unclear as to where they will be trained.

beco2010

your BMI or body mass index is done by

an individuals body weight is 75 kg

his hight is 1.68 m

convert the individual hight into meters by multyplying it with itself
1.68 x 1.68 = 2.82

then divide individuals weight 75kg by 2.82 = 26.5

26.5 = bmi


bmi standerds

below 18.5 = under wight
18.5-24.9= normal
25.0-29.9=over wight
30.0 and above = obese

this is the test that would be preformed in a fitness assessment/ field test
it is not accurate though
hope this helps poeple

beco2010

KickstartHeart wrote: »

Anyone know when the first recruit platoons of the 600 are due to start? And are they all going to be trained in the DFTC or will they be trained at brigade level? - I'm asking because applicants aren't applying to brigades anymore, rather the army as a whole, so its unclear as to where they will be trained.

this is just from what iv heard from here on boards. the navy were ment to take on a class in june so june for them but that is all i know and wouldnt want to give a false answer. i dont think anyone will know till after the interview

KickstartHeart

beco2010 wrote: »

this is just from what iv heard from here on boards. the navy were ment to take on a class in june so june for them but that is all i know and wouldnt want to give a false answer. i dont think anyone will know till after the interview

Ah I see. Sound for the reply. I know the navy recruits will be trained by the navy at the naval base but its the Army I'm wondering about. If they want to get the 400 and something trained this year for the Army I'd imagine they'll be trained at brigade depots too.

SasQuatch88

I heard that General enlistment troops who make it to their respective platoons will start training in late summer early autumn..
If It's lies I'm tellin ya, t'was lies i was told...