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Quickest way to cook 12 eggs?

  • 12-04-2012 9:59pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭


    From what I've read the protein isn't bioavailable when raw? And I don't like the risk of salmonella anyway. So what's the quickest and cleanest way to cook 12 eggs? Hard boiling is probably quickest, but peeling is a pain in the arse with so many.. Which is why I'm here!


    Ahhhhh ****e, sorry I meant to post this to nutrition and diet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭patwicklow


    crack them into a bowl and micro wave for 2min as good as hard boiled


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    Together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    With regards to bioavailability

    "almost 50% is malabsorbed over 24 h. The higher digestibility of cooked egg protein presumably results from structural changes in the protein molecule induced by heating, thereby enabling the digestive enzymes to gain broader access to the peptide bonds" whereas ~91% was absorbed using cooked. This is the only study I've come across re: bioavailability and the sample size is 5 people and they're ileostomy patients. I've read on numerous sites about how cooked egg is much more bioavailable with similar figures as above touted but I haven't seen anything other than this study (I haven't looked particularly hard)

    source: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/128/10/1716.full

    With regards to salmonella, the chance is VERY low of it being present (something like 0.01%). Also take into account that there must be enough Salmonella for it to infect you (albeit the infectious dose for Salmonella usually isn't particularly high but varies depending on the individual). And if you're in Ireland then realistically the eggs will be recalled if they are implicated in a Salmonella outbreak; but if you're eating 12 eggs in one sitting then you may be the man to implicate the eggs :P

    If I was eating 12 I'd just go raw. The risk is low (not as low as cooked eggs obviously) . Going raw will save you like half an hour. If you want to minimise the risk then I'd boil them but like you said, peeling would be a pain in the hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    trad wrote: »
    Together

    Amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    jive wrote: »
    Going raw will save you like half an hour. If you want to minimise the risk then I'd boil them but like you said, peeling would be a pain in the hole.
    It won't save you near half an hour. 5-10 minutes max, and thats not counting that it'll take me longer to eat raw eggs compared to cooked.
    Hard boiling is probably quickest, but peeling is a pain in the arse with so many..

    Hardboiled in probably the slowest. Except for maybe oven.
    Nonstick pan is pretty fast.
    Poached is fast, but needs more attention.

    For pure speed. Scrambled in the microwave is the fastest. A few minutes, how fast depends on your microwave and if you want to stop and stir half way or not.
    Do them in batches of 4 and eat one bowl as the next is cooking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Mellor wrote: »
    It won't save you near half an hour. 5-10 minutes max, and thats not counting that it'll take me longer to eat raw eggs compared to cooked.

    It takes longer to eat raw eggs than cooked? what? You just drink them. It will easily save half an hour. It's a liquid, how could it possibly take longer to eat? I can chug water faster than I can eat a steak, the same applies to raw and cooked eggs. Liquids go down quicker due to the elimination of chewing ;)

    1) Raw eggs. Break into glass and drink. Clean the glass. ~2 minutes total. By far the quickest, cleanest and easiest method.

    2) Hard boiled. Boil for ~10 minutes, peel ~5 minutes, eat ~10 minutes, clean pan and plate.

    3) Pan fried / scrambled - would require a giant pan and hob unless you want to do in 3 batches which would take time. You can't really eat and pan fry at the same time. Also you have a pan, plate and cutlery to clean after. Easily half an hour overall.

    4) Microwave - again can't do in 12s, have to heat for i dunno, 3 minutes? You have to stir them, wait for them to cool down. If you have to do them in batches then you need to use at least 2 bowls and the eggs when microwaved get stuck to the edge of the bowl at the top. Again will easily take half an hour. You're talking at least 9 minutes cooking time.

    For time, cleanliness and easiness then raw eggs is by far the best option, the only drawback is the potential lesser bioavailability. All other methods, with the exception of hardboiled, require looking after and attention. Hardboiled you just have to boil the water and wait a while. With microwave and pan you have to stir the shít and you can't even do them in 12s, by far the 2 worst options. The only thing raw eggs definitely loses on is taste (they don't taste of anything unless you break the yolk prior to drinking in which case they taste like.. you guessed it.. yolk), but then again microwaved eggs taste like shít compared to pan fried which is too much effort and hardboiled eggs are nothing to write home about anyway. Raw is the way to go if your eating 12 not to mention you won't feel as full/bloated as eating 12 cooked eggs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    jive wrote: »
    It takes longer to eat raw eggs than cooked? what? You just drink them. It will easily save half an hour. It's a liquid, how could it possibly take longer to eat? I can chug water faster than I can eat a steak, the same applies to raw and cooked eggs. Liquids go down quicker due to the elimination of chewing ;)
    Check my post again. I said that it would take ME longer.
    I can down a pint in 5 seconds. But not raw eggs, not a hope. I did it before with 6 raw and it made me feel dodgy.
    4) Microwave - again can't do in 12s, have to heat for i dunno, 3 minutes? You have to stir them, wait for them to cool down. If you have to do them in batches then you need to use at least 2 bowls and the eggs when microwaved get stuck to the edge of the bowl at the top. Again will easily take half an hour. You're talking at least 9 minutes cooking time.

    I regularly have 4 eggs as breakfast if I'm working early. I don't know why you need to let them cool. They only taste like **** if you over heat them. With a bit of practice you get better at timing. I'd say its roughly 5 minutes for me to cook and eat.
    Washing a second bowl wouldn't a major concern for me.


    Obviously raw eggs are faster and less cleaning than cooked. Nobody said they weren't. But its not enjoyable. I'd rather enjoy my breakfast if I'm having actual food. The extra effort and time is worth the extra protein absorbed imo.

    If all you are interested in is pure speed. Two scoops of whey is even faster than 12 raw eggs, and is about the same protein considering the bioavailibity issue.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Dare I ask the obvious questions?

    ...I dare.

    1) why the hell are you eating 12 eggs?
    2) how bad do your farts smell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 488 ✭✭Paudee


    Have you eaten 12 cooked eggs before? Because I have and it is not what i would call enjoyable.

    Also can somebody translate that post on bioavailability into stupid, i'm far too tired to attempt to read it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Incompetent


    Hanley wrote: »
    Dare I ask the obvious questions?

    ...I dare.

    1) why the hell are you eating 12 eggs?
    2) how bad do your farts smell?


    Haha, I regularly eat 6 at a time, but decided after easter its time to cut back on chocolate and up on protein. Cottage cheese, chicken, and eggs are my friends.

    The farts will be beautiful :pac:
    Paudee wrote: »
    Have you eaten 12 cooked eggs before? Because I have and it is not what i would call enjoyable.

    Also can somebody translate that post on bioavailability into stupid, i'm far too tired to attempt to read it again.

    I had 10 hard boiled once. It wasn't nice towards the end but I'm not a fan of hard boiled anyway.

    The bioavailability study is the only one we can find, and the only one that's referenced. According to the post above the sample is very small, and not at all representative of the general population, so it's not clever to base our diets on it.. At least that's what I thought.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 821 ✭✭✭xgtdec


    Am i the only wimp who cant stand the texture of a microwaved egg:o

    if im doing reular breakfast i use a normal size pan, cook with butter and do 3-5 eggs, but as soon as i put eggs from pan to plate i have the tap running hot and one of those scrubber things....becasue of the heat a quick rinse and scrub and its ready to go again next morning!

    Ive found that for more eggslike 5-10, i use my wok, its very handy for a large mount and the same clean meathod above applies.

    I'd rather drink 2 chick's than eat microwaved eggs:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Get a plastic shaker and crack in 3-4 eggs. Whisk them up and stick them in the microwave for about 5 or 6 minutes.

    Probably the handiest way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Quickest way is to get a wok or good pan non stick , lash in some oil , crack the egs in like making fried eggs and get a wooden spatula and keep mixing them as they cook , takes less than 4 mins and tastes million times better than rubber microwave eggs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    6 scrambled in a pot is the max I can eat and that even gives me eggy boke the odd time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Sasquatch76


    Swallow 'em whole, shell and all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    I peel all my eggs like this since I learned it. Also following Miguel on twitter is a good idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,351 ✭✭✭Orando Broom


    I follow this guys advice.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Would you not just have a few scoops of whey? You might be able to eat six eggs at a time but 12 sounds like torture. If you just want to up your protein intake I think you're going the wrong way about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭top madra


    jive wrote: »
    It takes longer to eat raw eggs than cooked? what? You just drink them. It will easily save half an hour. It's a liquid, how could it possibly take longer to eat? I can chug water faster than I can eat a steak, the same applies to raw and cooked eggs. Liquids go down quicker due to the elimination of chewing ;)

    For time, cleanliness and easiness then raw eggs is by far the best option, the only drawback is the potential lesser bioavailability. All other methods, with the exception of hardboiled, require looking after and attention. Hardboiled you just have to boil the water and wait a while. With microwave and pan you have to stir the shít and you can't even do them in 12s, by far the 2 worst options. The only thing raw eggs definitely loses on is taste (they don't taste of anything unless you break the yolk prior to drinking in which case they taste like.. you guessed it.. yolk), but then again microwaved eggs taste like shít compared to pan fried which is too much effort and hardboiled eggs are nothing to write home about anyway. Raw is the way to go if your eating 12 not to mention you won't feel as full/bloated as eating 12 cooked eggs.

    12 raw eggs?

    Post a vid until I get a giggle..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Would you not just have a few scoops of whey? You might be able to eat six eggs at a time but 12 sounds like torture. If you just want to up your protein intake I think you're going the wrong way about it.

    Agree with this. You may eat 12 eats together once or twice, but I'd be surprised if you could continue much after that.

    I Love Kiwi's but I eat 8 of them in a row once (with Skin) for a bet and didnt touch them for about a year after!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Watched Rockie last night. He went for the raw approach.

    /Thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭Lago


    Eh, don't know if anyone else pointed this out, or if I should even point this out, but doesn't 2 eggs have over your daily recommended limit of cholosterol? Wouldn't eating 12 eggs at a time regularly just, well, kill you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Lago wrote: »
    Eh, don't know if anyone else pointed this out, or if I should even point this out, but doesn't 2 eggs have over your daily recommended limit of cholosterol? Wouldn't eating 12 eggs at a time regularly just, well, kill you?

    No - go into Nutrition and Diet and search for "eggs + cholesterol", there's a gazillion (=/- a few million) threads discussing it.

    Barry, have you tried that method? I want a hard boiled egg in front of me right now just to try it.

    12 eggs? That's like 1000-1200 calories. Easier to absorb the protein when cooked. Why not drink a shake?

    And like Hanley said, the smell. Oh God the smell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tonto86


    Lago wrote: »
    Eh, don't know if anyone else pointed this out, or if I should even point this out, but doesn't 2 eggs have over your daily recommended limit of cholosterol? Wouldn't eating 12 eggs at a time regularly just, well, kill you?

    That's just wrong old thinking. There's good and bad cholesterol.

    I was eating 8-10 eggs a day for bout a year, had my bloods done and came back with a very low cholesterol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Incompetent


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Would you not just have a few scoops of whey? You might be able to eat six eggs at a time but 12 sounds like torture. If you just want to up your protein intake I think you're going the wrong way about it.


    Good source of choline for study :D.

    Nah, I live with parents, and they're much more inclined to buy food for me rather than give me money for supplements. That and I like the additional calories over a protein shake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭alexsmith


    Tonto86 wrote: »
    That's just wrong old thinking. There's good and bad cholesterol.

    I was eating 8-10 eggs a day for bout a year, had my bloods done and came back with a very low cholesterol

    yes finally someone who knows what they're talking about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Mellor wrote: »
    Obviously raw eggs are faster and less cleaning than cooked. Nobody said they weren't. But its not enjoyable. I'd rather enjoy my breakfast if I'm having actual food. The extra effort and time is worth the extra protein absorbed imo.

    If all you are interested in is pure speed. Two scoops of whey is even faster than 12 raw eggs, and is about the same protein considering the bioavailibity issue.

    I don't think bioavailibilty is an issue unless there is a better study out there to prove it. Also 2 scoops of whey is nowhere near the equivalent of raw eggs. There's probably 700 calories and 60g of fat in the difference! Microwave eggs taste like ass no matter what in comparison to pan fried, boiled or poached.

    Also enjoyable is subjective. I personally don't mind raw eggs. My girlfriend's mother eats them raw with a bit of sugar (not into fitness, just an odd fish :P). I agree with you that pan tastes better but I'd genuinely prefer raw over microwave fluffy ass egg. If the trade-off is taste and it saves me _at least_ 20 minutes (compromise ;)) then I'd gladly sacrifice it, especially if it means I can get 20 mins more sleep!


    top madra wrote: »
    12 raw eggs?

    Post a vid until I get a giggle..

    I eat 4 not 12 :P It doesn't taste like anything unless you break the yolk so the vid wouldn't even be mildly entertaining :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    g'em wrote: »
    No - go into Nutrition and Diet and search for "eggs + cholesterol", there's a gazillion (=/- a few million) threads discussing it.

    Barry, have you tried that method? I want a hard boiled egg in front of me right now just to try it.

    Yep and it works! It's also cool to do in front of children who think you're a magician.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I'm coming from a more culinary point of view here - maybe there's some downside with respect to nutrition, but scramble those bad boys.

    Get a double boiler (glass bowl over a pot of boiling water so the water isn't touching the bottom).
    Crack the eggs in.
    Add about 100 mls of half cream and half milk - i've never cooked that many eggs before so you might need to experiment a bit - and a little bit of butter.
    Salt, pepper, give a whisk at the start and then mix slowly as it cooks with a wooden spoon or spatula.
    You can go for just low fat milk if you're going for a more healthy approach but the eggs won't be as smooth and maybe a little soggier.

    Basically they're done when there's no liquid left.
    Another benefit is that they really condense down. I'd struggle to eat 3 boiled eggs for a normal, non-post workout lunch, but scramble them and they seem more manageable.

    Absolutely the breakfast of champions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    I peel all my eggs like this since I learned it. Also following Miguel on twitter is a good idea.


    Cooler if you inhale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Gbear wrote: »
    I'm coming from a more culinary point of view here - maybe there's some downside with respect to nutrition, but scramble those bad boys.

    Get a double boiler (glass bowl over a pot of boiling water so the water isn't touching the bottom).
    Crack the eggs in.
    Add about 100 mls of half cream and half milk - i've never cooked that many eggs before so you might need to experiment a bit - and a little bit of butter.
    Salt, pepper, give a whisk at the start and then mix slowly as it cooks with a wooden spoon or spatula.
    You can go for just low fat milk if you're going for a more healthy approach but the eggs won't be as smooth and maybe a little soggier.

    Basically they're done when there's no liquid left.
    Another benefit is that they really condense down. I'd struggle to eat 3 boiled eggs for a normal, non-post workout lunch, but scramble them and they seem more manageable.

    Absolutely the breakfast of champions.


    Full fat is healthier than low fat - swap them around and ya have a lovely brekki there !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭top madra


    jive wrote: »
    I eat 4 not 12 :P It doesn't taste like anything unless you break the yolk so the vid wouldn't even be mildly entertaining :D


    I tried once, never again..

    OP I use one of these, takes about 5 mins and they taste real good.

    6_cup_egg_poacher_set.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 stacey25


    jive wrote: »
    It takes longer to eat raw eggs than cooked? what? You just drink them. It will easily save half an hour. It's a liquid, how could it possibly take longer to eat? I can chug water faster than I can eat a steak, the same applies to raw and cooked eggs. Liquids go down quicker due to the elimination of chewing ;)

    1) Raw eggs. Break into glass and drink. Clean the glass. ~2 minutes total. By far the quickest, cleanest and easiest method.

    2) Hard boiled. Boil for ~10 minutes, peel ~5 minutes, eat ~10 minutes, clean pan and plate.

    3) Pan fried / scrambled - would require a giant pan and hob unless you want to do in 3 batches which would take time. You can't really eat and pan fry at the same time. Also you have a pan, plate and cutlery to clean after. Easily half an hour overall.

    4) Microwave - again can't do in 12s, have to heat for i dunno, 3 minutes? You have to stir them, wait for them to cool down. If you have to do them in batches then you need to use at least 2 bowls and the eggs when microwaved get stuck to the edge of the bowl at the top. Again will easily take half an hour. You're talking at least 9 minutes cooking time.

    For time, cleanliness and easiness then raw eggs is by far the best option, the only drawback is the potential lesser bioavailability. All other methods, with the exception of hardboiled, require looking after and attention. Hardboiled you just have to boil the water and wait a while. With microwave and pan you have to stir the shít and you can't even do them in 12s, by far the 2 worst options. The only thing raw eggs definitely loses on is taste (they don't taste of anything unless you break the yolk prior to drinking in which case they taste like.. you guessed it.. yolk), but then again microwaved eggs taste like shít compared to pan fried which is too much effort and hardboiled eggs are nothing to write home about anyway. Raw is the way to go if your eating 12 not to mention you won't feel as full/bloated as eating 12 cooked eggs.

    thnks, good to know;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I peel all my eggs like this since I learned it. Also following Miguel on twitter is a good idea.


    You sir, are a legend.

    I am off to boil a heap of eggs!

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭DamienH


    You sir, are a legend.

    I am off to boil a heap of eggs!

    On the subject of peeling things, this is a time saver for potatoes.

    http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-peel-potato-ten-seconds-194751/


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    dario28 wrote: »
    Full fat is healthier than low fat -
    Please explain?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    My housemate showed me that Torres egg trick before. You recommend his twitter Barry,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    Mellor wrote: »
    My housemate showed me that Torres egg trick before. You recommend his twitter Barry,
    I recommend any man who manages to tweet himself out of a multi million dollar contract.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 deckydee2


    Dont eat so many eggs. You will destroy your liver. One egg is sufficent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I recommend any man who manages to tweet himself out of a multi million dollar contract.
    A bit of volunteer work and he got himself back in there.
    His twitter has prob gone downhill a little with the lack of rape jokes now but I'll give him a go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    I recommend any man who manages to tweet himself out of a multi million dollar contract.

    :confused: Who tweeted themselves out of a multi million contract?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    I recommend any man who manages to tweet himself out of a multi million dollar contract.

    :confused: Who tweeted themselves out of a multi million contract?
    Miguel Torres!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Mellor wrote: »
    A bit of volunteer work and he got himself back in there.
    His twitter has prob gone downhill a little with the lack of rape jokes now but I'll give him a go.

    His Twitter is still highly entertaining!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Hanley wrote: »
    His Twitter is still highly entertaining!
    I'll add him so, it'll be a decent counter point to Jones waffling about god and rampage crying about the UFC hating him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭UL_heart_throb


    I take a 12 cup bun tray (silicone) and slight grease with non-stick spray. I then take 12 medium free range eggs (superquinn) and add about a cup of milk (avonmore). I stir (not whisk) fairly steadily. I chop some broccoli, asparagus, mushrooms and onion (thinly) (all organic free range, superquinn). Mix with the egg mix. Then i pour a little bit into every cup and bake in oven for 20-25 minutes at 180.

    Goes great with some superquinn sausages also. you can make them the night before and just blast them in the microwave in the morning for breakkie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭arodabomb


    I peel all my eggs like this since I learned it. Also following Miguel on twitter is a good idea.


    Hmm, I think if I had recorded myself doing this I would have got more views. I followed his steps but I failed to cook the egg enough, it wasn't hard boiled, still quite runny. So when I tried to blow the egg out, all I did was cover myself in yolk. Not my finest moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    jive wrote: »
    Microwave eggs taste like ass no matter what in comparison to pan fried, boiled or poached.
    I found a way to boil them in a microwave, they seem to boil faster and I can't taste the difference.

    You have to work out the power settings for your particular microwave, bowl & water.

    You boil up water, say 500ml or so in a kettle, now fill a bowl and microwave it on full until it starts boiling again. Or just bring it to the boil in the microwave in the bowl.

    Now you have to work out what power setting will not cause the eggs to explode. You can do this without using eggs. After the water is boiling you turn down the power and microwave for 3mins further. Try 50% power, now after 3mins measure the temp, if it is say 97C this means the temperature has dropped, therefore it does not have enough power to keep the water boiling so the eggs should be safe from exploding. If it dropped to 85C you know you can increase the power, if still simmering away after 3mins you know to drop it.

    I cook up to 4 eggs at a time in 400ml water at 50% power for 2.5mins and the yolk is just still a little runny.

    If you are adding 12 eggs to a small amount of water it might cool the water down too much, so you might need more power -or safer is to use a longer time.

    I have read of people just boiling up water in a microwave and putting eggs in and not microwaving again, this will obliviously take longer to cook.

    You can run your eggs under cold water to cool them quicker.

    Another way I cook is in takeaway trays, ones like lunchboxes. Crack a load of eggs into one, with some butter and put the lid on and float it in a pot of boiling water. You can eat it from the tray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭dario28


    Please explain?

    As per the sports nutritionist for Villa, chris hoy and few others he told us that by taking the fat out of products to make them low fat removes a high percent of the minerals and vitamins

    He advised avoiding any "low-fat or reduced fat " products

    Same guy does ultra's and won connmarathon few years ago so I'd believe he knows a bit


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