Asking for permissions

TossL1916

Well lads quick question.
This week i,m going to knock on a few doors looking for permissions for rabbits and the odd night lamping.
I'm just looking for a few hints and tips that some of ye might of picked up from past experiences.
I,ll know everyone i,ll be asking so there wont be a problem there, i just want to get the wording right.
Cheers.

dodderangler

Just be polite bout it and make sure you have insurance an prove it to them that's most farmers main concern other than that should be alright gettin it

Cass

Just be yourself.

If it's people you know they will be easy to talk to. Don't get annoyed or discouraged if some refuse. I had this with a couple of ould lads in my area that i've known for years. They liked me, etc but did not want me or anyone shooting their land. Fair enough.

Don't go in with a rehearsed statement. Let the conversation make it's own way. Assure them, as said above, and offer to be on call if needed.

meathstevie

Ezridax is making a lot of sense and never underestimate the farmers grapevine either. You'll find after a while that once a few know you to be alright in an area more will follow over time. Even if you can mention that you shoot Johnny's land down the road it will straightaway remove some of the doubt with most farmers.

And very important; accept a polite no for what it is.

cavan shooter

It's better if you try get an introduction through somebody people are getting more suspicious and batchelor Farmers are very nervous, There is a lot of petty thieving going on.

A farmer near me had some tools nicked from a barn a couple of weeks ago. He doesn't want anyone around the house unless he knows them personally so he has asked that club signs be taken down as he doesn't know everyone. A bit extreme you may think but his argument is simple "now if your on my land you have no permission and no excuse". We re designated his land a Game Sanctuary

browning 12 bore

well lads around my area a lot famers know my me also a couple of my relations an all so it really flows very well also i walked in on a very old farmer there yesterday just getting bit of new deer permission and the farmer was in distress cause two ewes were lambing same time so he helped one and i helped the other i pulled two lovely little lambs making sure there ok air way clear an all, the farmer was very happy so he then showed me his land that big we had to get the map out altogether i got another 400 acres approx so i added that on what i have now and cause i get on so well with the farmers im tiping roughly 4500 acres approx,

Hunter21

Owning a shotgun is best excuse to get permissions- drive around and look for seeded fields, call up to the nearest yard suss out who owns it and say "I'll keep crows and pigeons off your newly seeded land for you" then let the conversation ramble on and ask about other permissions i.e. rabbits with rifle etc etc...

I even have friends of farmers ring me to shoot over their land when crows come in their droves.

How I love Spring Every seeded field is a potential new permission..

Cass

Just a reminder so as answers are question specific the OP said he knows everyone he will be asking;

TossL1916 wrote: »

I'll know everyone i'll be asking so there wont be a problem there, .............

So it's really a matter of how to talk to them, what way to broach the subject with the land owners rather than how to make contact with land owners he doesn't know.

Farmlife

Found its good to tell them that you won't trample over fencing or leave gates open, sounds obvious, but met a few farmers who have stopped letting people shoot for this reason.

session savage

Hunter21 wrote: »

Owning a shotgun is best excuse to get permissions- drive around and look for seeded fields, call up to the nearest yard suss out who owns it and say "I'll keep crows and pigeons off your newly seeded land for you" then let the conversation ramble on and ask about other permissions i.e. rabbits with rifle etc etc...

I even have friends of farmers ring me to shoot over their land when crows come in their droves.

How I love Spring Every seeded field is a potential new permission..

Always good to start out with a bit of banter but a couple of my permissions have expressed that I CANT use the shotty. They are sick of lads traipsin around banging away at anything.
I always say Ill just be using a .22 for bunnies for the pot and show them my insurance and they are fine about it.


Best of luck.

TossL1916

Thanks lads for that

Stevegeraghty

Might be a silly one but do you ask the owner or the person renting the land?

Optimum

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Might be a silly one but do you ask the owner or the person renting the land?

I would like to know this as well, I presume you would have to get permission off both?

The clergy own a lot of land around us and I was wondering who to ask for permissions..

ssl

Optimum wrote: »

The clergy own a lot of land around us and I was wondering who to ask for permissions..

God???

TossL1916

Stevegeraghty wrote: »

Might be a silly one but do you ask the owner or the person renting the land?

AFAIK you ask the landowner, i suppose it wouldn't do any harm to get the number of the tenant and ask them too, for the sake of peace more than anything else

browning 12 bore

wel lads my experience of this is i went pigeon shooting one day got the land renter to shoot away cause its his crop that your shooting ocer for him now bear in mind that the renter hardliy ever lives near the field so i went in decoys out and so on banged away shot nice few birds then deided to pack up and as i leaving the land jeeps blocked the gate way two angry farmers got out holy god there was nearly war in the field cause i was shooting in there area and i didnt have the land owner permision to shoot cause his farm was beside the field i was shooting in,
so my advice is this ask two lads and make sure you have some farmers phone number cause i had to drive around looking for the farmer that gave me permision,

long storey short stay calm lads and talk to to the distress farmer and get two permmision when shooting over rented land

The Big Fella

browning 12 bore wrote: »

wel lads my experience of this is i went pigeon shooting one day got the land renter to shoot away cause its his crop that your shooting ocer for him now bear in mind that the renter hardliy ever lives near the field so i went in decoys out and so on banged away shot nice few birds then deided to pack up and as i leaving the land jeeps blocked the gate way two angry farmers got out holy god there was nearly war in the field cause i was shooting in there area and i didnt have the land owner permision to shoot cause his farm was beside the field i was shooting in,
so my advice is this ask two lads and make sure you have some farmers phone number cause i had to drive around looking for the farmer that gave me permision,

long storey short stay calm lads and talk to to the distress farmer and get two permmision when shooting over rented land

Well in fairness what did you expect. The lad renting the land does not have the sporting rights the landowner does.;)

SureHowBad

The Big Fella wrote: »

Well in fairness what did you expect. The lad renting the land does not have the sporting rights the landowner does.;)

That's true but does the renter not have the right to protect their crops? I have had this discussion with a few shooting friends and each has differing opinions; can anyone shed some light on this? I know we enjoy the sport of shooting pigeons and crows but it is still a valid service provided to protect crops and hence is the landowners permission needed as well as the renters?

Optimum

ssl wrote: »

Optimum wrote: »

The clergy own a lot of land around us and I was wondering who to ask for permissions..

God???

Never thought of him..might try him later..

Spunk84

Optimum wrote: »

ssl wrote: »

Optimum wrote: »

The clergy own a lot of land around us and I was wondering who to ask for permissions..

God???

Never thought of him..might try him later..

Wouldn't bother him , he's to busy target shooting lmfao

ssl

There's Nama land out my way. I'd love to get onto it, any tried getting permission for such?