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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭onrail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


    Would someone like to hazard a guess as to what this feature may be on these satellite images?

    https://earth.google.com/web/%4053.20493947%2C-6.82614122%2C92.30292623a%2C1725.28301589d%2C35y%2C355.39844397h%2C0t%2C0r

    https://www.bing.com/maps/?cp=53.204362%7E-6.82296&lvl=16.0&style=h

    An ecclesiastical settlement or a rath or ringfort surrounded by a large earthen enclosure? The outer enclosure measures approximately 400m in diameter, so quite a substantial feature. It may just be modern field boundaries causing a trick of the eye? The cropmarks at the centre are at the highest point at an elevation of 94m, and the land slopes gently away to the curving boundaries. It's not on the National Monuments database of recorded monuments, and early OSi maps show a curvilinear feature at the northern edge only. Any ideas?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Can you post a screenshot or long and lat? Links are not bringing me anywhere, at least on my phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


    Hi Gremlinertia,

    Here's a Google Earth screenshot with Long. and Lat. in the right hand corner.

    This curvilinear feature lies one kilometre southeast of the bog body find at Baronstown West. This bog body, dated to between 200 - 400 A.D. is on display in the permanent Bog Body exhibition in the National Museum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


    Info. relating to the bog body find at Baronstown West, Co. Kildare (click on the screenshot for a larger image).



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    The northern boundary appears to be a drain and is a feature that separates the bog from pasture rather than a feature that constitutes an enclosing element.

    The southern 'boundary' is defined by a road that was quite well populated, probably until the Great Famine.

    I don't think we are looking at a large enclosure. I think the overall morphology you are seeing is created by eighteenth century field systems, drainage and the road. The crop marks in the centre appear to be a field with drains. This field could be a booley field. There are some potentially medieval field boundaries in the southeastern quadrant and southwest of the road too. I think this overlay of the first edition map makes things pretty clear.

    If there was an enclosing element to the west (red dashed line) you would expect to see some sort of a curvilinear crop mark. The crop marks visible at that location on the 2018 GE image are straight and are the remains of nineteenth field boundaries. The little dot in the field second from left (top) is a trigonometric point.

    Interesting and good on you for looking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


    Thank you, Slowburner.

    Extraordinary and fascinating that you could read the landscape like that. I guess I now know it's nothing to get excited about!

    Thanks again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


    Does this look like a Porcellanite flake?



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Certainly looks like it. It’s a strange one though: it looks more like a core than a flake. There are some indications that flakes may have been removed from the chunk. This might be unusual given that porcellanite is typically associated with axe production. You would expect waste flakes from axe rough-outs to be more substantial/clunky/amorphous and without primary reduction. I don’t know if porcellanite is a suitable lithology for stone tools - it probably is - but I can’t think of any southern Irish examples offhand. Might be worth getting in touch with the duty officer of the NMI and giving them all the usual details



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭HoteiMarkii


    Thanks, slowburner.

    On Friday morning last, I was showing two archaeologists from the NMI the find location of a stone axehead I'd found back in 2022. They believed the axehead I'd found was most likely made from shale. The other one I found in 2008 was most likely dolerite, so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that porcellanite examples may also have been present. I hear what you're saying about the size of the flake. One would expect the size of the flake somewhat more chunky if removed from a roughout. It's an interesting one. I've further information to send to the archaeologists who were here on Friday, so will send on a couple of images to see what they think. I'll keep you posted. Thanks again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Is there such a thing as old key experts out there lol?

    Son found it and we treated the rust. Would like an idea of date, type of lock used for? Size makes me think front door? Cast or forged? It's iron obviously.

    Internet sleuthing says "warded lock/skeleton key".

    Found close to a rural cottage ruin (couple hundred yrs old) so presumably belonged to it.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Hi all, the below has been reported to the NMS, but I'm too curious to wait to perhaps, some day, get to know what it is. Any ideas?

    This is on a mountain slope that was heavily exploited for peat, but I have not seen another feature like that elsewhere. To me they look like stones, but I'm not sure, and the spread from N to S is approximately 60-70m. Each "stone" is approximately 2-3m.

    I hope it's ok to post something that has already been reported.

    Thanks!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Forgotten or abandoned turf stacks?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,238 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    @slowburner I'm not the expert here but this must be a look unless some form of later development due to the lines, notwithstanding - the photos/maps are impressive



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    These things are always worth a look



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    This was my first thought, maybe an older folk passed on and no one wanted to interfere with his stacks, but these all seem to be on a mound, and they kinda look like stones on some imagery. I don't have a drone so I can't double check that for myself, so I just reported it as is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh




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