Odeon Point Village & iSense

beglee

Heard news today that the IMAX & cinema beside The Point are due to open in March

http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Dublin-Docklands-To-House-Odeon-IMAX-Cinema/98008.htm

ronano

I hope it's a straight up genuine imax screen and not the liemax version, it'll be great to have if it is!

Sad Professor

Great news!

I assume it's genuine IMAX. Fake IMAX usually happen when a theatre owner converts an existing normal sized screen into a "IMAX Digital" screen. It's a scam.

kearneybobs

Yeah, did a survey a while ago mentioning an IMAX opening down near the point depot. Seems as though they are going ahead with it. The names they wanted your opinion on were BRUTAL.

WatchWolf

Is there any actual confirmation that it will have IMAX? I don't want to get my hopes up just yet.

Joekers

WatchWolf wrote: »

Is there any actual confirmation that it will have IMAX? I don't want to get my hopes up just yet.

Says it in the article

Sad Professor

There was an article about the March opening in today's Irish Times as well, but no mention of IMAX.

WatchWolf

Joekers wrote: »

Says it in the article

An article from Entertainment.ie...

liffeylite

WatchWolf wrote: »

Joekers wrote: »

Says it in the article

An article from Entertainment.ie...

Yes it is confirmed. Its a 12 screen cinema inclusive of an imax screen. And costa coffee :-) lets hope they can get dunnes to open their store in the point village and ignite theshopping centre. The cinema will need the footfall. Great for docklands too.

Anybody been down that way to see the consrruction?

its the only major retail construction project active in the city at the mo.

S.M.B.

I got to see MI4 in IMAX at the weekend and it truly was a spectacle.

If it's a proper IMAX screen being built in Dublin then I really hope it succeeds.

corcaigh07

S.M.B. wrote: »

I got to see MI4 in IMAX at the weekend and it truly was a spectacle.

If it's a proper IMAX screen being built in Dublin then I really hope it succeeds.

glad you saw it the proper way! im counting down the weeks until The Dark Knight Rises hits cinemas in Toronto, Ill be there back row centre as soon as possible!

hope the Dublin IMAX does well, I think it has a good chance. Even if it is loss-making, hopefully the other 11 screens pick up the slack, the IMAX presence may help build some customer loyalty...

the whole year inn

Will this be ready for dark knight?

Sad Professor

liffeylite wrote: »

Yes it is confirmed. Its a 12 screen cinema inclusive of an imax screen.

What's your source for this? And I thought the IMAX screen was going to be in addition to the 12 screens, no?

S.M.B.

corcaigh07 wrote: »

glad you saw it the proper way! im counting down the weeks until The Dark Knight Rises hits cinemas in Toronto, Ill be there back row centre as soon as possible!

hope the Dublin IMAX does well, I think it has a good chance. Even if it is loss-making, hopefully the other 11 screens pick up the slack, the IMAX presence may help build some customer loyalty...

Yeah zero chance I'll be seeing The Dark Knight Rises anywhere else but the IMAX although it's going to be a nightmare to get decent tickets for it.

The prologue looked impressive on the big screen!

jimmyendless

Dman001 wrote: »

Thought Antrim Omniplex had an IMAX screen, going by their clever "Omnimaxx" title. Turns out it it's just a large screen! Can't see there being a market for on in Ireland alright, due to our small population! But am definitely for the technology and hope more films are shot in IMAX, and not this 3D rubbish!

I was planning on going here and when I checked it a few months ago I'd swear it said it was an IMAX. They were/are totally trying their arm with the name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IMAX_venues#Northern_Ireland

beglee

liffeylite wrote: »

Anybody been down that way to see the consrruction?

its the only major retail construction project active in the city at the mo.

I live down the road, and have been passed by a few times in the last month or two. There is absolutely no sign of the cinema at all.

Im presuming it is going into the same building as the Gibson hotel or in one of the adjoining empty buildings, as 1 month would be pretty short notice to knock up a multiplex. But there doesnt appear to be anything going on down there at all at the moment.

I'd say the announcement of opening in March was either a lie, fanciful thinking or trying to force someone's hand in a negotiation to get it set up.

I could be wrong, but with only just over a week before March begins, you'd expect to see something resembling the entrance to a cinema taking shape, but I havent seen anything

notsobadinc

odeon cinemas are opening their first branded irish cinema, albeit theres one in belfast, and its opening in the same building as the gibson hotel in late march. work is nearly finished.
it will be a 6 screen cinema with costa coffee and will have odeons version of IMAX-far better sound system and dynamics.
rest of storm/uci cinemas will be rebranded in quarter 2 as odeon cinemas with new locations opening in quarter 3.
no mention of a 12 screen though...

Sad Professor

Their version of IMAX? I assume that means "digital IMAX", i.e. not IMAX at all. Well that's very disappointing if true, but not entirely surprising.

notsobadinc

no not disappointing quite the opposite. .Its imax with imm sound (barcelona) integration..
Difference is imax has limited span of films where with odeon version there is not the samé limitations to films or new releases plus the greater sound inscreen makes it a more enjoyable experience..
Its coming to point 1st and other irish sites this year-already proving věry successful in germany and spain..
Odeon are investing heavily in ireland ať moment and going forward will be rolling out the brand and associated products this year..
Have been to imax in uk and věry enjoyable so i expect this to be same..
Expect point to be fully operational for april late march. .

Sad Professor

How big will the IMAX screen be?

Antar Bolaeisk

Mickeroo wrote: »

Technically not Ireland I know but is there not one in Belfast?

There was but it's closed as well.

Sad Professor

Just to be clear, folks, "true" IMAX involves a 70mm film projector and a very large square screen with an aspect ratio of 1.44:1. "Digital IMAX", on the other hand, usually uses a 4k digital projector and a 16:9 screen that's closer to the audience. From the sounds of it, Odeon/The Point is going to have "Digital IMAX", which as I said earlier isn't true IMAX, it just uses the IMAX name and charges the same price. A true IMAX cinema is so large that it can only show IMAX films.

There's no comparisons between the two. While "Digital IMAX" is better than a regular cinema, and may even be larger in some cases, it's not the real thing. If you looking to watch any old 35mm or digitally shot film, "Digital IMAX" will look great, but if you are looking to watch TDKR the way Christopher Nolan intended it then forget about it. In fact, the prologue for TDKR wasn't even made available to "Digital IMAX" screens - it was 70mm IMAX only.

S.M.B.

notsobadinc wrote: »

no not disappointing quite the opposite. .Its imax with imm sound (barcelona) integration..
Difference is imax has limited span of films where with odeon version there is not the samé limitations to films or new releases plus the greater sound inscreen makes it a more enjoyable experience..
Its coming to point 1st and other irish sites this year-already proving věry successful in germany and spain..
Odeon are investing heavily in ireland ať moment and going forward will be rolling out the brand and associated products this year..
Have been to imax in uk and věry enjoyable so i expect this to be same..
Expect point to be fully operational for april late march. .

Sounds like Digital IMAX to me which pales in comparison to the real deal. It's still a decent movie going experience but it doesn't come close to offering the same experience as full on 15/70 IMAX.

notsobadinc

Sad Professor wrote: »

Just to be clear, folks, "true" IMAX involves a 70mm film projector and a very large square screen with an aspect ratio of 1.44:1. "Digital IMAX", on the other hand, usually uses a 4k digital projector and a 16:9 screen that's closer to the audience. From the sounds of it, Odeon/The Point is going to have "Digital IMAX", which as I said earlier isn't true IMAX, it just uses the IMAX name and charges the same price. A true IMAX cinema is so large that it can only show IMAX films.

There's no comparisons between the two. While "Digital IMAX" is better than a regular cinema, and may even be larger in some cases, it's not the real thing. If you looking to watch any old 35mm or digitally shot film, "Digital IMAX" will look great, but if you are looking to watch TDKR the way Christopher Nolan intended it then forget about it. In fact, the prologue for TDKR wasn't even made available to "Digital IMAX" screens - it was 70mm IMAX only.

Friend reckons its a 70mm projector...screen is massive..built and speced as imax as up until recently that was the plán and imax still interested..
As regards your technical knowledge i cant answer Til i talk to him but there moving in next 2wks for final fitouts.
From visiting other odeon sites they tendr to do it properly as opposed to offering some 2nd rate version..will have to wait and see..

S.M.B.

Well I have been to both 70mm IMAX and Odeon Digital IMAX screenings and the later had more in common with a regular cinema experience than it did with the former.

Will be interested to hear what the screen size is.

notsobadinc

s.m.b. and others from what im told unless you have been to odeon in germany or spain in the last year, then you defo have not experienced this odeon version of imax as you are quite right about digital imax which they operate already in the uk..
point will be the first outside of spain and germany to get this new imax version with another irish site earmarked for april 2012..
also told opening is defo end of march

Oafley Jones

Given my experiences with both formats ... I'd travel up to Dublin for true Imax and if digital imax was in Cork I wouldn't spend the extra few euros for it.

G_R

http://www.odeoncinemas.ie

Tickets are on sale now for it. Gonna be an iSense screen as opposed to an iMax. Screen is three stories tall, and has 54 speakers. Never seen a movie in either Imax or iSense, so I don't know what the differences are, but this does sound quite impressive.

Sad Professor

Okay, so as expected, it's not IMAX. If those details are correct, then it's about half the size of an IMAX screen. But it should offer extremely impressive picture and sound nonetheless. At least they are honest and aren't calling it IMAX. From a cinema's perspective, true IMAX is a waste of money anyway as it's not going to be around in a few years time. Digital is the future and that's obviously what Odeon have their sights on.

corcaigh07

ok its not imax but it sounds pretty deadly, cost effective too, 12.50 for an adult ticket isn't bad if its an impressive screen. is iSense in a similar screen ratio to imax?

Sad Professor

No. Like I said earlier, the IMAX format is practically square. Odeon's "iSense" screen is just a regular screen, albeit very large. So it won't be showing the IMAX version of TDKR.

corcaigh07

Sad Professor wrote: »

No. Like I said earlier, the IMAX format is practically square. Odeon's "iSense" screen is just a regular screen, albeit very large. So it won't be showing the IMAX version of TDKR.

ok. at least they are being honest and not calling it IMAX like some cinemas. i hope their honesty gets rewarded!

Tusky

How does it compare to Cineworld 17 and Savoy 1, sizewise?

Raekwon

I'm genuinely quite excited about this new cinema although I was under the impression that it was an IMAX. I've never heard of iSense but hopefully it will be an amazing cinematic experience to justify the price (€12.50 standard/€13.50 premier).

Tusky wrote: »

How does it compare to Cineworld 17 and Savoy 1, sizewise?

+1

I was just going to ask that.

I'm no expert but Cineworld 17 looks taller then Savoy 1 but not as wide. My local cinema is IMC in Dún Laoghaire and their screen 1 is fairly massive also but not quite on par with Savoy 1.

spankmaster2000

Raekwon wrote: »

I'm no expert but Cineworld 17 looks taller then Savoy 1 but not as wide. My local cinema is IMC in Dún Laoghaire and their screen 1 is fairly massive also but not quite on par with Savoy 1.

Purely from a seating perspective I think it's smaller than "The Big Fella" in Vue Liffey Valley anyway. (I couldn't find equivalent info for Cineworld or Savoy!)

e_e

Raekwon wrote: »

I'm genuinely quite excited about this new cinema although I was under the impression that it was an IMAX. I've never heard of iSense but hopefully it will be an amazing cinematic experience to justify the price (€12.50 standard/€13.50 premier).

It's only 8 euro early in the day. Gonna see The Hunger Games there on tuesday.

Memnoch

The two biggest screens in UCI Blanch have 451 and 437 seats respectively. Biggest in Odeon is 393. I'm not sure what's supposed to be better about it, can anyone educate me?

Raekwon

Memnoch wrote: »

The two biggest screens in UCI Blanch have 451 and 437 seats respectively. Biggest in Odeon is 393. I'm not sure what's supposed to be better about it, can anyone educate me?

It's not about cinema capacity, it's about the size of the screen. Cineworld 17 is arguably the biggest screen in Dublin with Savoy 1 coming a close second but will Odeon iSense be even bigger?

expectationlost

so there just 1 cinema screen at this odean?

spankmaster2000

Raekwon wrote: »

Cineworld 17 is arguably the biggest screen in Dublin with Savoy 1 coming a close second but will Odeon iSense be even bigger?

What about Liffey Valley surely??

Skinfull

spankmaster2000 wrote: »

Raekwon wrote:

Cineworld 17 is arguably the biggest screen in Dublin with Savoy 1 coming a close second but will Odeon iSense be even bigger?

What about Liffey Valley surely??

Yeah isn't "The Big One" the biggest one in the country? Or at least it was billed as such on opening.

what exactly is iSense though? Is it gonna bee IMAX or is it gonna be like ye olde shock theater where the seats move, air / water hits you in the face / legs?

Sad Professor

It's not IMAX. iSense is just Odeon's name for their very large, high quality digital screen and sound. It's probably about twice the size of a regular cinema screen.

krudler

Memnoch wrote: »

The two biggest screens in UCI Blanch have 451 and 437 seats respectively. Biggest in Odeon is 393. I'm not sure what's supposed to be better about it, can anyone educate me?

e_e

expectationlost wrote: »

so there just 1 cinema screen at this odean?

Seeing that there's several films listed all throughout the day. I'd say there's at least 4 or 5 screens.

Sad Professor

krudler wrote: »

Memnoch wrote: »

The two biggest screens in UCI Blanch have 451 and 437 seats respectively. Biggest in Odeon is 393. I'm not sure what's supposed to be better about it, can anyone educate me?

It's not IMAX. It's at least half the size.

Raekwon

spankmaster2000 wrote: »

What about Liffey Valley surely??

What is the screen size and capacity of the biggest screen in Liffey Valley?

According to the Irish Times the iSense Screen at Odeon Point Village is 160sq m with a capacity of 393.

Screen 1 in the Savoy 21.4 x 6.8 m and has a capacity of 780
Screen 17 in Cineworld is 17.1 x 7.3 m and has a capacity of 404

G_R

It's not the screen size that is the most impressive thing of an iSense screen, its the sound system. 27 Channels of sound on 54 speakers. As far as I know its about 4 times more than a regular screen.

From talking to someone who was working on site and got to go to a Preview screening this afternoon the sound is truly amazing. A demo is played before the movie showing just what it can do. For example it rains on screen, and only the speakers in the roof play the sound, so it sounds like your in a barn and it's lashing out. Then a bat flies around the screen, and you can hear exactly where it is in the screen. There was a couple of other examples he gave me aswell, said it was absolutely brilliant.

Can't wait to go and see it. That said, I think it's capabilities might be wasted on The Hunger Games. I'd say the Dark Knight Rises will be amazing though.

Sad Professor

Raekwon wrote: »

What is the screen size and capacity of the biggest screen in Liffey Valley?

According to the Irish Times the iSense Screen at Odeon Point Village is 160sq m with a capacity of 393.

Screen 1 in the Savoy 21.4 x 6.8 m and has a capacity of 780
Screen 17 in Cineworld is 17.1 x 7.3 m and has a capacity of 404

I don't know about the capacity, but Vue's largest screens (there are a few, not just one) are still smaller than Screen 1 in the Savoy. However, aspect ratio needs to be taken into account as well. Screen 1 in the Savoy is 2.35:1, where as Vue and Cineworld are 1.85:1. They are taller than the Savoy but not as wide. So which is the biggest depends on the aspect ratio of the film being projected.

According to Odeon's website, their iSense cinema screen is 3 stories high and 160 square metres. How tall is a story? Lets say they mean 10 feet. That would mean it's 30 feet high or about 9 metres. Using your figures, Cineworld is 17.1 x 7.3 m, which is 125 square metres. So iSense is about 30 percent larger than Screen 17 in Cineworld. In and around 18 x 9 metres.

Crash

http://www.odeoncinemas.ie/fanatic/auditorium_information/s209/

according to their site, the iSense screen is 17.6m x 8.8m, so very good guesstimate Sad Professor

Sad Professor

Yeah, I was pretty damn close. Although I probably should have checked their website a bit more thoroughly and saved myself the effort.

Now, if we could just find out what exact size Vue is.

Raekwon

Crash wrote: »

http://www.odeoncinemas.ie/fanatic/auditorium_information/s209/

according to their site, the iSense screen is 17.6m x 8.8m, so very good guesstimate Sad Professor

So the iSense screen is smaller then Savoy 1 and pretty much the same size as Cineworld 1?

Colour me disappointed

Hopefully the sound will be so ridiculously good that the size of the screen won't matter because I'd need a good reason to travel all the way down to the Odeon to pay a fiver more then the Savoy to see a movie.