A very very sad story

RainbowRose81

As a woman I am blessed to be born in a Christian country. This story would break the hardest hearts of how a savage monster disfigured a epic looking woman, this is worst story I have heard yet about this. There are many more cases that no one has heard about or no one will ever hear about and many deaths as a result of this. I wish there was face transplants to treat all disfigurments. It made me realise more how much I have to be in a country where women are equal and oppertunities. Heres the very sad story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121536/Former-Pakistani-dancing-girl-commits-suicide-12-years-horrific-acid-attack-left-looking-human.html

Jimoslimos

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

As a woman I am blessed to be born in a Christian country.

Oh really? Have a think about that.....

stupidusername

A very important part to the story is that the man who did it was never convicted.

Lash_Alert

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

As a woman I am blessed to be born in a Christian country. ]

Stopped reading there.

Casillas

link isn't working for me

Latchy

Link doesn't open ....

I remember that story and I think the piece of **** that did it got off lightly with what he had done yes ...it's pretty disturbing just like that beautiful girl in England who also had acid thrown in her face by some other evil bastard .Anybody who commits such a horroundous act on another human being needs to be hung ...very slowly

Sound of Silence

Brutality is simply a condition of humanity. It's no less prevalent among those of one creed than in another.

It's a truly sickening story.

RainbowRose81

Casillas wrote: »

link isn't working for me

Sorry I couldn't get the link working..

I don't know if this works ? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121536/Former-Pakistani-dancing-girl-commits-suicide-12-years-horrific-acid-attack-left-looking-human.html

SteelyDanJalapeno

Lash_Alert wrote: »

Stopped reading there.

Same, presume its lambashing some randoming now christian country, and our priests are sound

Superbus

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

As a woman I am blessed to be born in a Christian country.

Or, alternatively, one that gives a şhite about basic human rights.

RainbowRose81

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Oh really? Have a think about that.....

Well compare arab country that's ruled by sharia law to a democratic country?

Superbus

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Jimoslimos wrote: »

Oh really? Have a think about that.....

Well compare arab country that's ruled by sharia law to a democratic country?

Aha, so does democracy=Christianity?

DEFTLEFTHAND

What an horrific act of hatred from the husband. Poor poor women, she was quite beautiful before.:(

RainbowRose81

Latchy wrote: »

Link doesn't open ....

I remember that story and I think the piece of **** that did it got off lightly with what he had done yes ...it's pretty disturbing just like that beautiful girl in England who also had acid thrown in her face by some other evil bastard .Anybody who commits such a horroundous act on another human being needs to be hung ...very slowly

Im sorry I tried getting the link to work...I found the story on the daily mail. I was going to say it's shocking but it takes alot to shock me anymore.

booboo88

Regardless of religion, this is a really horrible story, the poor women.
And her son

Cavehill Red

As an atheist, I want to support the OP in the face of the oh-so-trendy sneering at how she phrased her description of this country.
Yes, it was founded on a Christian ethos, the same ethos Irish monks exported all over Europe in the Dark Ages to preserve civilisation following the fall of Rome, the same ethos that led to the Renaissance.
The crucial element of her 'Christian' descriptor isn't that we're now all Jebus freaks, giving pervert priests a by-ball. We're not. But what we are is a post-Christian nation that still enjoys the enlightenment and civility that that culture sustained and developed over centuries, a culture which is centuries ahead of the primitive patriarchal woman-suppressing and torturing culture of much of Islam.
In our post-Christian country, we have the liberty to sneer at the inheritance we've received in terms of this culture, without even realising that the very freedom to do so is part of that inheritance.
In the vast majority of Islamic nations, such free thinking is rewarded with prison, torture, rape, death, or, as in this poor victim's case, a bucket of acid about the face.

patrickbrophy18

That absolutely disgusting savage of an individual should spend the rest of his natural life rotting in a jail cell for the damage he did to her.:mad:

starbelgrade

Cavehill Red wrote: »

As an atheist,

I stopped reading there.

Superbus

starbelgrade wrote: »

Cavehill Red wrote: »

As an atheist,

I stopped reading there.

Post-atheism? THAT'S SO TRENDY!

RainbowRose81

Superbus wrote: »

Aha, so does democracy=Christianity?

Well democracy means the rule of people, it's very much related to values, norms and culture of a society. For eg. here it's not okay to stone a woman to death for having an affair because the majority of the people here believe that is wrong to take a person's life in any circumstances.

Herb Powell

A Christian country that respects women eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_laundry

fonecrusher1

Nice easy-going topic at midnight. :rolleyes:


Might want to warn people that the article linked contains some very disturbing images.

smokedeels

Christian country... Daily Mail link.... yeah, I don't care and I wont click your right-wing propaganda link.

Gran Hermano

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well democracy means the rule of people, it's very much related to values, norms and culture of a society. For eg. here it's not okay to stone a woman to death for having an affair because the majority of the people here believe that is wrong to take a person's life in any circumstances.

Not many years ago an affair could lead to a life locked away in a laundry run by the church.

carbon nanotube

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

As a woman I am blessed to be born in a Christian country. This story would break the hardest hearts of how a savage monster disfigured a epic looking woman, this is worst story I have heard yet about this. There are many more cases that no one has heard about or no one will ever hear about and many deaths as a result of this. I wish there was face transplants to treat all disfigurments. It made me realise more how much I have to be in a country where women are equal and oppertunities. Heres the very sad story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121536/Former-Pakistani-dancing-girl-commits-suicide-12-years-horrific-acid-attack-left-looking-human.html

thats just f**ked up ****.

RainbowRose81

Herb Powell wrote: »

A Christian country that respects women eh?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalene_laundry

Well many catholic clergy and a good few catholics in general miss the point of God which is to love and live and let live.

El Weirdo

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Might want to warn people that the article linked contains some very disturbing images.

Also needs a big *****Daily Mail link***** warning.

Cork24

I think he op thinks their still in the 40s

RainbowRose81

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Not many years ago an affair could lead to a life locked away in a laundry run by the church.

Well I am talking about now not years ago. Anyways at least we have our moral compass working well now

Latchy

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Im sorry I tried getting the link to work...I found the story on the daily mail. I was going to say it's shocking but it takes alot to shock me anymore.

There's enough shock horror storys out there day after day ,week after week and you don't have to look very far to find them , when we see what some warped individuals are capable of doing. I avoid sensationalist storys which are only out for the gore and shock value over any real human compassion = sells newpapers .The story of the English 'acid attack ' girl was all over mainstrem media and a documentry made about her battle to lead a normal life as possible and not let her attacker have the final say ..a very brave woman .

Gran Hermano

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Anyways at least we have our moral compass working well now

Indeed, most people have realized what a farce the church is.

booboo88

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Nice easy-going topic at midnight. :rolleyes:


Might want to warn people that the article linked contains some very disturbing images.

Sadly these images are a reality for alot of people

Lash_Alert

booboo88 wrote: »

Sadly these images are a reality for alot of people

That doesnt change the fact that the majority of people will find them disturbing?

RainbowRose81

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Indeed, most people have realized what a farce the church is.

Well would you rather Ireland had Islamic roots rather than Christian ones? It's worrying to think where we would be if we were not a christian country from the begining.

LH Pathe

She actually looks like leatherface, no point reaching for the moisturizer after being left with that. left with the dispairing face of shock/ pain/ realization when it hit her face.. it's horrible alright, that's two examples I've seen today of how the phrase beauty is only skin deep can ring true. Certainly aesthetic anyhow

44leto

Honour killing or honour revenge, it's their culture. But culture is not an excuse for any type of abuse on any person male or female, but the victims can be male but are usually female.

100 million women living now have suffered female genital mutilation, that is barbarism and not culture and tradition is no excuse either.

Charles Napier The british army commander in chief of Africa and India when facing complaints about the abolition of sutee (the burning to death of a widow after the death of the husband) replied " You say it is your custom to burn widows, very well. We also have a custom, when men burn a women alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it my carpenters will build a gallows. You follow your custom and we will follow ours".

The practice of sutee stopped.

ihsb

Poor girl. It is an awful story. And acid attacks have happened as close to home as in the UK. Even though nothing like this has happened here, I still do not agree that we live somewhere that men and women are equal.

grindle

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well would you rather Ireland had Islamic roots rather than Christian ones? It's worrying to think where we would be if we were not a christian country from the begining.

No, it'd be worrying to think where we'd be if the Enlightenment hadn't happened.

booboo88

Lash_Alert wrote: »

That doesnt change the fact that the majority of people will find them disturbing?

She was hardly talking about rose gardens in her post

starbelgrade

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well would you rather Ireland had Islamic roots rather than Christian ones? It's worrying to think where we would be if we were not a christian country from the begining.

Considering the history of Ireland & it's various relationships with religions, I think we'd have been better off if we'd stayed as pagan.

patrickbrophy18

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Not many years ago an affair could lead to a life locked away in a laundry run by the church.

It's extremely embarrassing that our country was once like that and thankfully there have been changes. I would even go so far as to mask this part of our heritage as it gives us a bad name. No country in the world should treat women like second class citizens because it is animalistic and incredibly degrading. It also makes women vulnerable to attacks like the very disturbing one seen in the daily mail article. Yet, this savage inhuman behavior still prevails in other cultures. And all over an anatomical difference. So unbelievably childish!

RainbowRose81

Lash_Alert wrote: »

That doesnt change the fact that the majority of people will find them disturbing?

Well they are disturbing you only have to look at the news these days it's hard to avoid it.

RainbowRose81

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

It's extremely embarrassing that our country was once like that and thankfully there have been changes. I would even go so far as to mask this part of our heritage as it gives us a bad name. No country in the world should treat women like second class citizens because it is animalistic and incredibly degrading. It also makes women vulnerable to attacks like the very disturbing one seen in the daily mail article. Yet, this savage inhuman behavior still prevails in other cultures. And all over an anatomical difference. So unbelievably childish!

Well in these country their moral compass isnt' turned on. It's not exactly about religion. it's about what is right and wrong, that people are human beings and should be treated like that...that is basic humanity.

EGAR

Katie Piper in the UK is another acid victim, the difference it though her attacker will serve a minimum of 16 years in jail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Piper

RichieC

Alan Turing. Yea.

The rest of the world hasn't reach our gloriously high standards yet... I imagine the Alien daily mail made that much ****ing clear back in the day.

Moral outrage!

mcmoustache

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well would you rather Ireland had Islamic roots rather than Christian ones? It's worrying to think where we would be if we were not a christian country from the begining.

This dichotomy seems kinda false. The religion run by men who dress in gowns, kiss each others' fingers and fear women (Catholicism to everyone else) has never had female interests at heart. They only put up with you because of "aggressive" secularism. Otherwise you'd be in the kitchen making me a sandwich. And the opposite of Islam isn't Christianity. I'm pissed but I think there's something good in what I wrote there, whatever it was.

up for anything

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well would you rather Ireland had Islamic roots rather than Christian ones? It's worrying to think where we would be if we were not a christian country from the begining.

What a senseless, pointless, nonsensical comment! Stop embarrassing yourself. :rolleyes:

mcmoustache

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Jimoslimos

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well compare arab country that's ruled by sharia law to a democratic country?

Or perhaps a brutal dictatorship to a modern democracy. Those new-found equal rights and opportunities you hold dear didn't emerge because of Christianity, in fact looking closer you could probably say there has been a strong correlation between the reduction of religious influence in the West and the improvement of women's rights. Just saying.

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Yes, it was founded on a Christian ethos, the same ethos Irish monks exported all over Europe in the Dark Ages to preserve civilisation following the fall of Rome, the same ethos that led to the Renaissance.

You don't think other cultures had similar golden ages of science, arts and learning?

SteppingStone

Poor woman :-(

Cavehill Red

Jimoslimos wrote: »

You don't think other cultures had similar golden ages of science, arts and learning?

Straw man. The golden age of Arab science and progression occurred centuries ago, and actually spanned the coming of Islam. It'd be perfectly fair to suggest that their golden age occurred primarily due to the Caliphs of Baghdad and happened despite Islam.

The OP's phrasing has apparently sent a lot of people off down the wrong path, huffing and puffing in their 'offended on behalf of others' multicultural fashion. But the bottom line is that the feral scumbaggery of scarring a woman for life with acid round the face is part of mainstream Islamic culture, and is an abhorrent one.

When Islam has their renaissance, their enlightenment, their progression towards tolerance of others and equality for women, then we might see something different. But I for one am not going to entertain the sort of cultural relativism that suggests the primitive barbarity happening widespread within Islam today is in any way on a par with my culture, where such things are, if they exist at all, shocking aberrations rather than the norm.