sniper

tac foley

zagro wrote: »

Do you know that Accuracy Int. is available for civilian as sport (hunters) rifle in many countries?

Well, yes, it is.

I checked with my club secretary last night and found that there are 31 in our club - 11 of which are in .338LM. There are also many look-alikes in calibres ranging from .223 to 6.5x47 and .300WM, using the ever-popular Remington 700 action and a load of added-on doo-dads.

All are used on our club ranges and on other ranges over the UK as target rifles. In spite of the fact that twice a year some of them are also used over in Germany in BDMP competitions, where the para-military and police tactical firearms units practice their counter-terrorism-type shooting in realistic scenarios. Even here in UK there are so-called 'sniper competions', where, without causing politicians' apoplexy, many British shooters can try their skills at being wannabe snipers for the day.

Many rifles that can be found in the public sector have the term sharpshooter applied to them by the manufacturers, particularly those in Germany and Austria. If anybody here has a Steyr SSG of any kind, f'rinstance, note that the name stands for 'scharfschuetzengewehr - sharpshooter rifle. Even my old Krico 650SS has a name that means 'Scharfschuetzen-Spezial'. Even the SAKO TRG was designed from the onset as a sniping rifle for military and para-military forces, as well as for counter-terrorism tasks with civilian police.

And how many AI 'look-alikes' are there in YOUR club? The after-market AICS stock seems to me to be VERY popular in Ireland - rightly so. Gold medallist Malcolm Cooper, sadly missed by all us shooters, and who designed it in the fust place, knew exactly what was wanted.

The mind-set of the politician is quite different to that of the ordinary rational thinker, and couple that with the international press prediliction for ALWAYS getting it wrong and there you have a recipe for a publicity disaster that can always be made to work against us and the peaceful and law-abiding following of our chosen sport.

tac

fish slapped

fish slapped wrote: »

I shoot an Accuracy International for FTR (hopefully) and I'm not a sniper... I've never been trained in the concealment skills of a sniper or their range finding skills or any of their other skills.... the only similarity is I squeeze a trigger too...

The AI was designed by target shooters... and so is inherently a good rifle for target shooting...

zagro wrote: »

Do you know that Accuracy Int. is available for civilian as sport (hunters) rifle in many countries?

Zagro please take note of post no. 23 above... I've already stated that I own one ... and yes I have brought it deer stalking ... just the once... a mistake I wont make again... 16lb with no sling on a 4 hour stalk... No thanks.

zagro

fish slapped wrote: »

Zagro please take note of post no. 23 above... I've already stated that I own one ... and yes I have brought it deer stalking ... just the once... a mistake I wont make again... 16lb with no sling on a 4 hour stalk... No thanks.

Yes, I've read that but I mean you can buy AI in many countries and keep at home. According to Firearms Order 2008 Accuracy International AX .308 is non-restricted rifle in Ireland. Caliber is 7,62, lenght is greather than 90cm and magazine capacity is 10.

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Restricted%20Firearms%20and%20Ammunition%20S.I..pdf/Files/Restricted%20Firearms%20and%20Ammunition%20S.I..pdf

In Canada AI is non-restricted rifle as well.

http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/details/3998/Accuracy-International-AX-308-win-Rifle-Information.aspx

Target shooting from this kind of weapon is nothing new. Therefore I asked about a range in Dublin. Thanks

fish slapped

zagro wrote: »

fish slapped wrote: »

Zagro please take note of post no. 23 above... I've already stated that I own one ... and yes I have brought it deer stalking ... just the once... a mistake I wont make again... 16lb with no sling on a 4 hour stalk... No thanks.

Yes, I've read that but I mean you can buy AI in many countries and keep at home. According to Firearms Order 2008 Accuracy International AX .308 is non-restricted rifle in Ireland. Caliber is 7,62, lenght is greather than 90cm and magazine capacity is 10.

http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Restricted%20Firearms%20and%20Ammunition%20S.I..pdf/Files/Restricted%20Firearms%20and%20Ammunition%20S.I..pdf

In Canada AI is non-restricted rifle as well.

http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/details/3998/Accuracy-International-AX-308-win-Rifle-Information.aspx

Target shooting from this kind of weapon is nothing new. Therefore I asked about a range in Dublin. Thanks

Yes you asked about the range but you also asked about getting a loan of a " sniper rifle" and again above you referred to it again as a " weapon " . I have tried to explain the difference between a sniper rifle / weapon and what is used by us civilians for the sport of target shooting , but fear my time could be better spent elsewhere.

Longranger

I was hunting rabbits on my mates farm recently and a couple of the neighbours called by to see how I was getting on. The moment they saw my rifle(cz455 thumbhole hmr with scope, mod and bipod)the first thing they said was "jaysus, why do you need a fcuking sniper rifle to shoot rabbits"
Ignorance is everywhere when you're shooting! They also said my "silencer" was broken as they could hear the shot! BTW,I know quite a few lads with AI rifles and a good mate of mine recently took delivery of a Barrett M98B .338 Lapua. Very few of them hunt and these TARGET RIFLES are lovely to shoot but for me anyway, ridiculously expensive. But I can guarantee one thing, none of these lads would appreciate being called "snipers" as it's tough enough to convince the CS that you're sane enough to be granted a licence:D

Boiled-egg

The words mountain and molehill come to mind following this thread!! Anyways hers my 2 cents worth.
Rifles are not classified as sniper rifles because there is no such cassification. Indeed rifles when found suitable are used by snipers and therefore are sniper rifles. The same rifle used by a hunter or target shooter is a hunting rifle or target rifle. Obviously firearms manufactures are out to make money and there fore they compete in tender processes for military contracts but that does not make certain rifles in to sniper rifles in merely highlites if they are suitable for use by a sniper or not.

All of the above IMO