New York Giants Thread

HigginsJ

Red Crow wrote: »

Picks are out:

1st Round - 12th
2nd Round - 43rd
3rd Round - 74th
4th Round - 113th
5th Round - 152nd
5th Round - 174th - Compensatory Pick
6th Round - 187th

I thought we would of had a 7th but I guess Louis Murphy was too good :pac:

The extra 5th will def be handy. Beason for that 7th rounder is a lovely bit of business.

wawaman

Former bear Zach bowman was signed today

Knex*

wawaman wrote: »

Former bear Zach bowman was signed today

Another CB. Be interesting to see how camp goes and if he can make the roster.

Any chance of getting NaVorro to join him next? :pac:

Knex*

Mike Patterson, on the other hand, has resigned.

I like that, as we certainly need the depth in the Dline, and it might free Jenkins up to cover LDE when needed in run game, etc.

HigginsJ

Knex. wrote: »

Another CB. Be interesting to see how camp goes and if he can make the roster.

Any chance of getting NaVorro to join him next? :pac:

It will probably be the strongest defensive backfield we have fielded since I started supporting the Giants. Safety was already a huge strength & now with Amukamara, DRC, Thurmond, McBride, Hosley & Bowman looks to be a strong deep group. It's a slight shame as I highly rated a few of the CB's in the mid round range of this draft but it is one position completely off the board now.

SameOleJay

wawaman wrote: »

Former bear Zach bowman was signed today

Solid signing. Strong in man coverage and decent special teams' option too.

Filled in well for Tillman last year.

wawaman

Another name added to the defense ! http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000338909/article/robert-ayers-signs-contract-with-new-york-giants

Just the offense to work on now !

boccy23

For a man that never went in for a lot of Free Agency and hung his hat on the draft, Gerry Reese has certainly done a 180 this spring.
Under serious pressure.
A bad draft and a bad season in 2014 could see Gerry on the way out.
What happens to Coughlin?

Knex*

Apparently we signed former saints tackle, Charles Brown, for a bit of depth too.

Suppose we'll see how he gets on in training camp. He's a swing tackle, so can cover for Pugh and Beatty if he makes the roster. I'd assume that he will, despite some poor words from Payton about him. He got dropped from LT towards end of last season.

Red Crow

OLB, DT and TE in the draft and I'll be happy. It's obvious that we'll take a C at some point and maybe a WR in the 4th or 5th.

Knex*

Best thing about this FA period, we've set ourselves up to take the best player on the board now.

For example, if for some strange reason and strike of luck, Mack, or Watkins, or Evans, etc, are still on the boards, I think we take them.

I'm nervous about taking Eric Ebron at 12, tbh. Haven't seen enough of him, so in no position to say, but it does seem high for a Tight End that reportedly can't really block. We got that trait with a high draft pick on Wilson already.

Red Crow

The Wilson pick was a disaster anyway. We probably wanted Doug Martin and when he went off the board just before we got our chance I'd say Reese had to go for his second back on the board. Wilson had fumbling issues in college and he'll be out of the league next year if he can't protect the ball. He's a bust IMO.

Ebron is different in that he is the première tight end of the draft. There is really nobody left after him with that skill set. I wouldn't even be convinced by Jace Amaro either even if he fell into the 3rd.

Knex*

Initial thoughts on Ebron at 12, yay or nay?

In isolation, now I mean. I know its not practical saying don't think about other round picks or who is off the board before we choose, just basically, does his skill set match the 12th overall pick value.

Red Crow

He's a top 10 talent and I hope we take him. If not I'd like to see us go LB or DT. But we need to take a TE.

HigginsJ

I'd agree with Red Crow. He is just too good to pass on if he is there. Eli will have never had a TE of his caliber

Knex*

Cheers fellas.

I now have visions of Jimmy Graham style performances, minus the playoff chokes :pac:

krustydoyle

Just signed TE Kellen Davis to a 1yr deal.

HigginsJ

krustydoyle wrote: »

Just signed TE Kellen Davis to a 1yr deal.

Solid blocker but not real a receiving weapon. We were bound to sign a vet as we only have Donnell & Robinson on the roster

Knex*

Not the worst fella to bring in.

Kylo Ren

Brown gone to the Texans. Crap.

I guess he was gone when Jennings signed.

Knex*

Keno wrote: »

Brown gone to the Texans. Crap.

I guess he was gone when Jennings signed.

Yeah, he's just not healthy enough, tbh. I felt he lost some of his speed (he was extremely quick when he first came on the scene) last year too.

Wish him all the best, except against us, but I'm not surprised by this at all, really.

HigginsJ

Knex. wrote: »

Yeah, he's just not healthy enough, tbh. I felt he lost some of his speed (he was extremely quick when he first came on the scene) last year too.

Wish him all the best, except against us, but I'm not surprised by this at all, really.

Are we still in the market for a running back?

Jennings could be solid but I will remain sceptical for now. No one knows on Wilson. Hillis is a solid pair of hands but doubt he will bounce back to Madden cover form all of a sudden. Michael Cox looks like another wasted late round pick.

If Wilson was at his best it cud be a good group, if not its very underwhelming

Knex*

HigginsJ wrote: »

Are we still in the market for a running back?

Jennings could be solid but I will remain sceptical for now. No one knows on Wilson. Hillis is a solid pair of hands but doubt he will bounce back to Madden cover form all of a sudden. Michael Cox looks like another wasted late round pick.

If Wilson was at his best it cud be a good group, if not its very underwhelming

I really don't think that we are. If Reese thinks he'll get good value in the Draft at some stage, he may pull the trigger for one, but other than that, if all goes well in training camp, I feel these are our three.

Jennings and Hillis should get 1000 yards, if healthy. Now, we certainly need more than that, so a lot will come down to whether Wilson can produce or not.

Not ideal, but we've so many holes to fill, we can't do it all in one go, unfortunately.

Dublin Red Devil

we have allot of new signings going into next season. who should we take in the draft. what position. WR, OL?

HigginsJ

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

we have allot of new signings going into next season. who should we take in the draft. what position. WR, OL?

Good god not OL (at least not in the 1st 2 rounds) We need to go some combo of WR, TE & LB in the 1st 2 rounds.

Eric Ebron & Jordan Matthews, ,Mike Evans & Kyle Van Noy or CJ Mosley & Austin Seferian-Jenkins would be a nice pairings to come out of the 1st 2 rounds with.

Knex*

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

we have allot of new signings going into next season. who should we take in the draft. what position. WR, OL?

1st pick will depend on who's on the board, I feel.

Most likely, Evans and Watkins, the two main WRs will be gone, but if not we may go for them.

Then, its probably Eric Ebron, the TE, as we virtually have no playmaking TE at the moment. Robinson is a complete unknown there, and Keller is a blocking TE.

If not him, I could see us going DT with Donald, as he would allow us to get serious inside pressure, but I feel Giants would be happier if they could get someone on offense first.

Overall, I think we should be looking at TE, DT, WR, DE, OL (center or guard), and OLB.

Those 6 are probably our areas most in need of numbers and quality. I honestly don't know how best to rank them in importance, however, and that for me is probably the most worrying aspect.

This team has so many unknowns.

Edit: Couldn't believe in the mock draft someone predicted a corner in the first round. The area we least need someone. We're absolutely stacked in secondary for the first time in years.

HigginsJ

Knex. wrote: »

Edit: Couldn't believe in the mock draft someone predicted a corner in the first round. The area we least need someone. We're absolutely stacked in secondary for the first time in years.

utterly bizarre choice, had it been 2 months ago there would have been some logic to it but not after signing 3 experienced CB's & having 2 of our starting corners back from last year. We are 5 deep at corner before going to Hosley & James who both have playing time under there belts with us

wawaman

The Giants pre season schedule has been announced. The regular season schedule should be out in the next 2 weeks.
Aug. 3: vs. Buffalo Bills (NBC, 8 p.m.)*
Week 1: Pittsburgh Steelers
Week 2: at Indianapolis Colts
Week 3: at New York Jets
Aug. 28: New England Patriots

HigginsJ

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2024642-eli-manning-injury-updates-on-giants-qbs-ankle-and-recovery

Eli to have surgery & will be out for 6 weeks. I like the fact that they mention (twice) that Eli should be back running in 6 weeks, we all know how much Eli loves running!!

Knex*

He'll be back just in time for OTA's, yeah?

Hope so anyway. Don't want another season with starters missing out.

Edit: What am I saying, he'll be back well before then