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Deep meaningful intellectual movie, makes you think on another level??

  • 10-03-2012 12:36am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35


    This is probably very broad but can anyone suggest films that have an intellectual theme, something to really make you think about life etc. Something to broaden the mind or encourage you to see life from different perspectives. They are usually layered, with hidden meanings e.g eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, man on the moon, pursuit of happiness, a beautiful mind.. I want something for the oul noggin< think i've turned it to mulch with slap stick comedies lately :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    one flew over the cookoo's nest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    The Tree Of Life, you'll either love it or hate it though.

    The Fountain, well worth a watch, the music is incredible too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭guitarzero


    Its pretty pop culture but definitely one of the best films I've ever seen - Vanilla Sky. When I watched this I was totally floored. Simply fantastic, very emotional and quite a mind altering film in a few ways. It kinda crosses romance and surrealism in a pretty accessible way, this is your homework for the weekend.:)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The entire Ingmar Bergman filmography should keep you busy for several months.

    Prepare to emerge feeling rather despondent, seeing Spider Gods everywhere and wanting to move to the Faro Islands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Tarkovskiy's Solyaris. Soderbergh's adaptation was admirable too but the 1972 film is an immense piece of art.

    Whenever I watch any Michael Haneke film I always get the feeling that he's looking back at you. Every single aspect of each shot is so calculated and considered, he really is a master. Caché is my favourite of his.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Dude Where's My Car 2.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Another vote for Bergman. He pretty much single-handly introduced metaphysics to cinema. God, death, love, identity - he dealt with it all, and without ever seeming pretentious. This combined with his remarkable understanding of human emotions and relationships made him a truly unique yet totally accessible cinematic voice. Nobody ever imitates Bergman because they don't want to fail and look stupid. There's plenty of films about existential angst, but nobody does all-out existential crisis like Bergman did. This might make him sound depressing, but his films are actually incredibly cathartic and life-affirming. I remember seeing The Seventh Seal and Winter Light when I was about 19 or 20 and they had a profound effect on me, both emotionally and philosophically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 659 ✭✭✭ToadVine


    Melancholia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    krudler wrote: »
    The Tree Of Life, you'll either love it or hate it though.

    Very genuinely the worst heap of **** I've ever had the misfortune to lay my eyes on.

    Until I saw Tree Of Life the worst movie I'd ever (ever!) seen was Be Cool.

    I hated Tree of Life so much that every time it's mentioned I get angry that I supported it by paying for a cinema ticket instead of illegally downloading it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    Another vote for Bergman. He pretty much single-handly introduced metaphysics to cinema. God, death, love, identity - he dealt with it all, and without ever seeming pretentious. This combined with his remarkable understanding of human emotions and relationships made him a truly unique yet totally accessible cinematic voice. Nobody ever imitates Bergman because they don't want to fail and look stupid. There's plenty of films about existential angst, but nobody does all-out existential crisis like Bergman did. This might make him sound depressing, but his films are actually incredibly cathartic and life-affirming. I remember seeing The Seventh Seal and Winter Light when I was about 19 or 20 and they had a profound effect on me, both emotionally and philosophically.

    This ^. I couldn't have put it better myself, exactly what I was going to write. :)

    Ingmar Bergman's films are great art.

    Very little of the latter half of the 20th century qualifies as great art. All that comes to my mind now is (free form) jazz, Beckett and Ingmar Bergman.

    He was simply an artist, a poet and a philosopher. He is the only director to have contributed on par with the great literary and artistic figures to the collective discipline of art. The greatest and most profound questions are explored in his films.

    His films take Mortality, Love, the Human Psyche, the Female Psyche, Human Relationships, Meaning/Purpose and Existence and all the Professor referred to and he presents these concepts, difficult as it is, through the medium of cinema. He explores them so intimately you cannot help feel something profound. The slow zoom into a characters face, silence, stillness, colour saturation or a bleak sterile monochromatic representation of life that feels simultaneously numb and invigorating. Each shot is like a painting. The consistent intensity his films have have not been reproduced by any other director dealing with such concepts consistently.

    You will also notice how his female characters are usually his most complete and most rounded which is very rare and something that would have been only possible in Sweden at the time. It is a luxury we are well afforded as he is the only director that comes to mind that dealt recurringly with the female psyche and female characters which is refreshing.

    As an existentialist he is on par with Sartre and Dostoevsky.

    He was one of the few directors to master the camera, though of course he was helped by his cinematographer Sven Nykvist.

    If you're looking for some of his more profound work I'd try:
    1. The Seventh Seal
    2. Wild Strawberries
    3. Persona
    4. Cries and Whispers
    5. Winter Light
    6. Scenes From A Marriage

    Here is his filmography.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Id also recommend watching Through a Glass Darkly, Winter Light, The Silence and Persona in that order. The former three are a loosely thematic trilogy, but IMO Persona is the fourth part and what really brings them together. He made great films before and after, but that four punch combo is the one id use to justify him as my favourite director. Electrifying cinema.

    Speaking of trilogies, the Three Colours trilogy hits grand themes of French identity while still being intensely psychologically engaging.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,059 ✭✭✭Sindri


    From the Life of the Marionettes is very good as well.

    It's one of his underrated works in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭kellso81


    dogtooth

    Certainly get you thinking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Skinfull


    Primer

    Love this movie, multiple viewings required. Test of friends and time and life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Tomk1


    Infinity
    www.imdb.com/title/tt0116635/
    The early life of Richard Feynman, played by Mattew Broderick, only saw it once and just wow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,426 ✭✭✭Roar


    Last Action Hero. At one point there's a movie within a movie within a movie. Far out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭CricketDude


    The man from Earth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Bodhidharma


    krudler wrote: »
    The Tree Of Life, you'll either love it or hate it though.

    The Fountain, well worth a watch, the music is incredible too.

    We park our car in the same garage, these are the first two that came to mind. Though I would add The Thin Red Line, I Heart Huckabees and 2001: A Space Odyssey to that list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    Roar wrote: »
    Last Action Hero. At one point there's a movie within a movie within a movie. Far out.

    It really makes you question the reality you live in. It was The Matrix before the Matrix. Same for Total Recall. I'll add Conan the Barbarian (1982) to the list. Its a very deep film beneath the fantasy action with sword weilding musle man exterior. And it has the biggest fck off epic score of any film ever made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Pi FTW.Awesome,mind bending stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,073 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Two films that made me think about life, death, questions of motivation (why do we ever do anything?), and more, but go about it in very different ways:
    - The Accidental Tourist starts with the death of a child, and shows the lives of those affected by the tragedy afterwards, and how they manage to put things back together, eventually.
    - The Ice Storm, on the other hand, is about life before the death of a child; the various little failures, moral and practical, that set a tragic chain of events in motion.

    It only just occurred to me that both films involve the death of a child, but aren't really about that. Instead, I think it's about how such a tragedy makes the characters rethink their lives - and that rubbed off on me, a little.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    eternal sunshine of the spotless mind

    On top of others mentioned, try some more Charlie Kaufman!

    Being John Malkovich
    Adaptation.
    Synecdoche, New York

    I'd recommend watching them in that order too: BJM to get you used to his mind, Adaptation.to get you used to his meta-ness (is that a word?); by then the ultra-mega-meta SNY should be less confusing :P

    (I haven't yet watched Human Nature or Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, so can't comment on them, maybe someone else can...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Plenty of movies out there to stimulate the mind:
    Short cuts by Robert Altman,
    Paris Texas by Wim Wenders,
    Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog
    Melancholia by Lars von Trier
    Moon by Duncan Jones
    Russian Ark by Alexandr Sukotov
    My Architect by Nathaniel Kahn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    For a real mind-bender, see "Meshes of the Afternoon" - it's only 15 mins. and well worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Dead mans shoes by shane meadows... I cant explain why it did. It just did.

    Same with the fountain. brilliant film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭sxt


    Michael Haneke as already mentioned .I read this blog about the film "Cache" recently , where I never saw so many hundreds of different interpretations to the films many questions! Trying to find this blog now!

    David Lynch is a Master of this art as well ! ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭James T Kirk


    Thirteen Conversations About One Thing

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Conversations_About_One_Thing

    Similar to films such as Magnolia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnolia_(film)

    Deep, but not 'Bergman' deep.

    Alan Arkin (as always) is fantastic in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ahwelltryagain


    Sweeeet! Thanks for all those great suggestions! That's exactly the mindset I was going for! I kid you not, I will endevour to make my way through at least half of these in the coming months *takes notes* mucho's appreciatos! =)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    bnt wrote: »
    Two films that made me think about life, death, questions of motivation (why do we ever do anything?), and more, but go about it in very different ways:
    - The Accidental Tourist starts with the death of a child, and shows the lives of those affected by the tragedy afterwards, and how they manage to put things back together, eventually.
    - The Ice Storm, on the other hand, is about life before the death of a child; the various little failures, moral and practical, that set a tragic chain of events in motion.

    It only just occurred to me that both films involve the death of a child, but aren't really about that. Instead, I think it's about how such a tragedy makes the characters rethink their lives - and that rubbed off on me, a little.

    The Ice Storm is a beautiful, magnificent film, that very little bad can be said about it.


    I'll throw in Lost in Translation to boot, made me really think , and was more than just entertainment but a social commentary in a simple but beautiful level.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    Bladerunner
    The tree of life
    The thin red line
    V for vendetta
    No country for old men
    Days of heaven
    The conversation
    Michael clayton
    Lost in translation
    Mc cabe and ms miller


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Solaris (1972) and Crimes And Misdemeanors, on the surface a fine comedy but a very powerful ethical issue running along side it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Arabella


    It's not to everybody's tastes, but Tim Blake Nelsons's Leaves of Grass is another worth checking out. It is very funny in places and also very dark. It may not be as philosophically stimulating as some of the other films previously mentioned, but it is a good example of philosophy working through the medium of film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭ykt0di9url7bc3


    Dark City


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    The Butterfly Affect. It's very well put together, and discusses the whole "What If?" scenario, that people tend to think about. But Butterfly Effect I think is great for making you think.

    Proberly the only movie that I liked by Ashton Kutcher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    The Butterfly Affect. It's very well put together, and discusses the whole "What If?" scenario, that people tend to think about. But Butterfly Effect I think is great for making you think.

    Proberly the only movie that I liked by Ashton Kutcher.
    I've highlighted the correct one. You seemed confused.

    tumblr_lpe6w7XGSP1qle0jco1_500.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭waltersobchak


    Not sure if its already been mentioned but i think this deserves a mention
    a film i could only watch once but still has me thinking 10 years later..

    requiem-for-a-dream.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    Wouldn't say deep, but American Beauty always makes me think about life...or, more importantly, how we go about living life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    One that's on T.V. at this very second: Into the Wild


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Man with a Movie Camera dates from 1929 and is a silent Film. Don't let this but you off is it is a documentary on the running of a city from morning to night. Its a Soviet Film so you get to see some Great late 1920s Soviet era stuff as well. Stalin took a dislike to the director Vertov years later and he had to give up film making I think.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    Sinfonia wrote: »
    On top of others mentioned, try some more Charlie Kaufman!

    Being John Malkovich
    Adaptation.
    Synecdoche, New York

    I'd recommend watching them in that order too: BJM to get you used to his mind, Adaptation.to get you used to his meta-ness (is that a word?); by then the ultra-mega-meta SNY should be less confusing :P

    (I haven't yet watched Human Nature or Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, so can't comment on them, maybe someone else can...)

    Watched Human Nature recently. Very good film. More a quirky comedy though. Teaching mice table manners, i'll say no more :D

    If you want films to make you think presented in a contemporary setting then Kauffman is your man. Love all his work.

    Was scrolling down to see if anyone mentioned Synecdoche New York. Have seen it 5 times. The 5th viewing better than the ones before. Far more depressing than his other work though. We are all finite etc. But brilliant all the same


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Not sure if its already been mentioned but i think this deserves a mention
    a film i could only watch once but still has me thinking 10 years later..

    Requiem For A Dream: Watched it recently on Netflix, hasn't aged too well imo, that frenetic editing and the noise that accompanies it gets on your tits, also not as daring and edgy as people seem to think it is, having said that Jennifer Connolly in it is probably the most beautiful woman to ever grace the silver screen worth watching again just for her (in the earlier scenes btw, not that unpleasantness later on)!

    042809_connelly_300x400.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,007 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Inception :p

    I'd recommend The Squid and the Whale and Pay It Forward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 smashedhat


    A couple of people have mentioned "Synecdoche, New York". Now it's a bit of a mess- it's very ambitious and pretentious. However, near the end there is a fantastic speech by the funeral priest. It stopped me with it's power and I've watched the speech so many times now. And the voice-over speech during last few minutes is equally fantastic- depressing, but brilliant. So yeah, definitely a film worth checking out. Being John Malkovich is much more accessible and enjoyable, some fantastic scenes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    I fondly remember back in the day the younger lad
    being a big man while i was at work decided to head down
    to the local video shop for a double bill for the late friday night
    (probably with MY money)...

    and later presented his choice of films.

    :D

    Now the first was ZABRISKE POINT which he proudly
    proclaimed was something of an important film and while there
    watching with the usual suspects and getting increasingly pissed
    off with it was eventually ejected.

    Being a bit of a joker and us being half cut only getting the
    videos in after the old dear has gone up after THE LATE LATE,
    the little bollox produces SS EXPERIMENT CAMP.

    Which kept us up for hours with mirth and merryment!

    :D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭grohlisagod


    Okuribito (Departures)

    Excellent touching film about the Japanese practice of embalming. Really got me thinking about life.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1069238/

    Another would be The Sunset Limited. TV movie adaptation of the Cormac McCarthy play starring Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel L. Jackson. A discussion between two very different people about life and its worth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB4xlYKAVCQ&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1

    A wonderful, strange and hypnotic movie that sums up the early 90s so well and contains so much food for thought. Amazing too that it only cost 20,000 dollars and is more interesting and creative than most movies 100+ times that budget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Dermighty


    Barney's version

    Very thought provoking, one of my favourite films.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    I heard some TOTALLY rubbish 'zine rated Jack Nicholson's performance
    in OFOTCN was the best of ALL TIME today... :rolleyes:

    Personally speaking, CHINATOWN was his finest moment.

    :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    The 1972 Solyaris.

    One of those films that you just stare at the credits when it ends deep in thought. One of the best films I've ever seen.

    Good thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    The 1972 Solyaris.

    One of those films that you just stare at the credits when it ends deep in thought. One of the best films I've ever seen.

    Good thread!

    Astonishing film, helps if you see it on the big screen, for the first half an hour I thought it was boring then it hits you on a metaphysical level, had me thinking about it for the next month or so, amazing piece of work.


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