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bryangiggsy wrote: »Dpop stay away from tri athlone if u want to avoid fun runners. god help if your over 30 in one of the later waves...6 abreast along the road they jog. one of my clubmates summed it up perfectly one year. he said it was like the womens mini marathon of triathlon.
You posted this just after I entered. Do yee not tell them to get out of the f*cking way?
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RacoonQueen wrote: »You posted this just after I entered. Do yee not tell them to get out of the f*cking way?
Vitruvian, Joey Hannan, Tri-Athlone, Beast of the East. How many others have you entered? And how many must one do before they accept that they are indeed a triathlete?0 -
Yup, I have to respond to this one alright! Well pre-empted!
I both strongly agree and disagree with the quotes above, depending on how they're interpreted.
As nerraw1111 says, a large majority of the races that are labeled as "adventure races" in Ireland are nothing of the kind. It's a more extreme mis-naming than calling a sprint triathlon an ironman, as they don't even have the right sports to be considered a true AR, even before distances etc are considered.
The races which are being referred to are I presume are the likes of Gael Force (the originator of the trend), the Roars, the races who's name cannot be mentioned, etc etc are just short runs up and down a hill or two, a road cycle or two, and a pathetically short or non-existant kayak, often on s(h)it-on-top kayaks (why not give everyone Dublin bikes for the cycle legs while you're at it :rolleyes:). They are most definitely much closer to being off road duathlons than to being adventure races. In reality they're a step or two below that, since the cycling is on-road. The only other country that has these mongrel races that I know of is New Zealand. Over there they are called multi-sports races, which distinguishes them from triathlons on one side, and adventure races on the other.
An adventure race is usually done in mixed teams of 4, will generally have a minimum of hill-running/trekking, mountain biking, and kayaking/canoeing (proper big stages), and most importantly a massive underlying emphasis on self navigation and self reliance. That's probably the biggest thing that the multi-sport races are missing. Adventure Race durations can range from short sprint events of half a day or so duration, to multi-day expedition races. I did 3 expeditions last year, and their maximum allowed durations were 4 days, 6 days, and 9 days. And believe me, no-one is doing these because they can't swim! (But having said that, I'll happily admit to being a crap swimmer!). The multi-sports races are much closer to being triathlons than to being true ARs. Perhaps they are just an opportunity for non-simmers (and non-team players and non-navigators) to do a triple sport event.
There are several adventure races in Ireland, such as the CCAR race, the Beast of Ballyhoura, the Raid etc. They tend to get less discussion in here though. Pity, as they are far far far better events, and much more enjoyable.
Soometimes we even get people coming over from triathalon to give AR a go... I had a good conversation on a beach on a small island in the arabian gulf with this lad (we were overnight camping between kayak stages, and we offered his team our surplus food). As it happens his team didn't make it to the finish of that particular race, between crashes on mountain bikes and finding the kayaking to be pretty hard going. It was good to race against them though.
So basically my assessment of the board as Triathlon/Duathlon/Messing would be something you'd agree with in the context of Gael Force, ROAR, Voldemort races being Adventure Racing? Cool 0 -
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incidentally, the forum you are all too cool for that kicked you out that no-one reads any more has a poll on how many people take part in different events. I asked because of this thread - I was wondering how many 'messers' there were, and what the overlap was between them and tri/dua...
Can we get a copy of the poll on this board please? 0 -
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Key is finding a nice way to say. .MOVE!RacoonQueen wrote: »bryangiggsy wrote: »Dpop stay away from tri athlone if u want to avoid fun runners. god help if your over 30 in one of the later waves...6 abreast along the road they jog. one of my clubmates summed it up perfectly one year. he said it was like the womens mini marathon of triathlon.
You posted this just after I entered. Do yee not tell them to get out of the f*cking way?0 -
Can we get a copy of the poll on this board please?
Slightly different version perhaps
Why did you take up triathlon anyway?- I was too slow at running/swimming/cycling
- Tri-suit more slimming than a singlet and shorts
- I just like spending money
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BetterThanHoyte wrote: »Vitruvian, Joey Hannan, Tri-Athlone, Beast of the East. How many others have you entered? And how many must one do before they accept that they are indeed a triathlete?
I didn't enter Joey
I did enter Athy. Slippery slope.
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So basically my assessment of the board as Triathlon/Duathlon/Messing would be something you'd agree with in the context of Gael Force, ROAR, Voldemort races being Adventure Racing? Cool
Well, if I agreed with that definition/context of adventure racing then yes, absolutely, I'd 100% agree. But, obviously enough at this stage, I don't regard those races as being adventure races (and neither would most of the world).0 -
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And destroy it for those taking part as they finish. I would strongly agree with DNHOP. Stereoptypes are often stereotypes precisely because it applies to vast numbers of people.
So music at the end line and someone saying your name and well done destroys the race for you If your doing a race i'm MC at i'll turn it down and tell everyone to sssshhhhh just before you cross the line;)
But a stereotype doesn't apply to everyone.............0 -
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elvis jones wrote: »So music at the end line and someone saying your name and well done destroys the race for you If your doing a race i'm MC at i'll turn it down and tell everyone to sssshhhhh just before you cross the line;)
But a stereotype doesn't apply to everyone.............
I didn't say EVERYONE. I said "vast numbers". And I didn't say it would destroy my race. I quoted your post about atmosphere. The "it" referred to atmosphere. Sorry if that wasn't clear. And yes, I agree with DNHOP that loud crap music blaring out over PA, with a DJ waffling inanities every now and again most definitely destroys the atmosphere. I've no problem with a race announcer calling finishers out as they cross the line. That's totally different.0 -
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Need a hug Enduro?
I don't think anyone is precious about Gaelforce etc not being called AR and would be happy with the offroad duathlon/multi sport moniker. Suppose makes it easier to attract punters from an organiser point of view.
Re MCs/DJs afterwards. Depends on the person. The lads from Roar are great craic on the mic. Really add to the event, minimum music, maximum piss taking.0 -
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nerraw1111 wrote: »Need a hug Enduro?
I don't think anyone is precious about Gaelforce etc not being called AR and would be happy with the offroad duathlon/multi sport moniker. Suppose makes it easier to attract punters from an organiser point of view.
Re MCs/DJs afterwards. Depends on the person. The lads from Roar are great craic on the mic. Really add to the event, minimum music, maximum piss taking.
That could describe me:D0 -
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elvis jones wrote: »What a stereotype.
A lot of my work is MC to announce things during the day and to congratulate people as they cross the line. Its good with smaller ones as its good for people doing their 1st tri for family members to give them a mention etc.
Before the race its important for the correct information to be given out ( many times ) and to make sure all are ready for the start and that equipment is cleared away.
Also music during the race can create some atmosphere for people standing around waiting for those involved.
But i do see your point.
Jaysus, how hard can it be - stick Eye Of The Tiger and Chariots Of Fire on a loop and off you go Maybe add an extra song depending on the event - Fat Bottom Girls for the Mini Marathon, that sort of thing.
The best race announcer ever was Carrick On Suir Tri 2009, he was hilarious. He was about 70, played Daniel O'Donnel on the PA and had huge coughing fits down the mike. I assuming it wasnt Elvis.0 -
griffin100 wrote: »The best race announcer ever was Carrick On Suir Tri 2009, he was hilarious. He was about 70, played Daniel O'Donnel on the PA and had huge coughing fits down the mike. I assuming it wasnt Elvis.
That guy was golden. They didnt have him in 2011 0 -
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