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24 arrests in Waterford drugs haul

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    #32
    deisedave
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    jo06555 wrote: »
    I went down for a stroll seeing a few faces their was a TV camera and photographer taking pics of each as they came from the prison van only 6 at a time I think so it could go on late into the night .

    It is hard to know if they have picked 24 people up on small amounts or they have an actual big bust. If these 24 people had nothing on them I cant see much of a sentence.


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    #33
    Stokolan
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    Now to expand my kingdom :P

    Any idea when they'll publish names or pictures? wan't see if I know any :D


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    #34
    jo06555
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    deisedave wrote: »
    jo06555 wrote: »
    I went down for a stroll seeing a few faces their was a TV camera and photographer taking pics of each as they came from the prison van only 6 at a time I think so it could go on late into the night .

    It is hard to know if they have picked 24 people up on small amounts or they have an actual big bust. If these 24 people had nothing on them I cant see much of a sentence.
    Ye I know I wonder are any of the big dealers in this 24 arrested , just on rte news said all but 1 released on bail to return in 2 weeks and the 1 has being kept on other charges .


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    #35
    deisedave
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    jo06555 wrote: »
    Ye I know I wonder are any of the big dealers in this 24 arrested , just on rte news said all but 1 released on bail to return in 2 weeks and the 1 has being kept on other charges .

    By the sounds of it, it means they have nothing on them and found nothing much if they had anything I dont think they would be freed so fast.


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    #36
    DaleB91
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    Hahahahah i think nearly everyone expected that outcome


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    #37
    jo06555
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    Stokolan wrote: »
    Now to expand my kingdom :P

    Any idea when they'll publish names or pictures? wan't see if I know any :D

    Id guess maybe fridays Munster or is that not run anymore?? Don't get the hopes up on billy Mac carthy talkng about it in morning he too afraid to talk bout the heavy things effecting Waterford


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    #38
    kryogen
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    Maybe they were trying to get as many of them into interrogation rooms as possible and hope they can get them to inform on the bigger guys?

    Wouldnt have thought it would be a positive sign that none are being held for the charges they were arrested for, would seem like a bit of a huge **** up though to arrest so many people and break the cover of this undercover investigation if they had nothing to pin to a few of them at least!


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    #39
    Finnbar01
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    kryogen wrote: »
    Maybe they were trying to get as many of them into interrogation rooms as possible and hope they can get them to inform on the bigger guys?

    Wouldnt have thought it would be a positive sign that none are being held for the charges they were arrested for, would seem like a bit of a huge **** up though to arrest so many people and break the cover of this undercover investigation if they had nothing to pin to a few of them at least!


    Why were they brought to court if the gardaí had nothing on them?


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    #40
    kryogen
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    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    Why were they brought to court if the gardaí had nothing on them?

    That was kind of my question.


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    #41
    Media999
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    Still no names? Cmon people.

    Gardai obviously had something on them. They bought heroin off most of them over the past 6 months undercover id say for a start.


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    #42
    kryogen
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    Media999 wrote: »
    Still no names? Cmon people.

    Gardai obviously had something on them. They bought heroin off most of them over the past 6 months undercover id say for a start.

    Wouldnt think its most of them, and wouldnt say its just heroin.

    The bigger guys tend to not get their hands very dirty and have plenty of runners. They would be arrested in connection with it but the Gardai would be relying on some of the guys they do have hard evidence on testifying against them in that case.

    So letting them all go on bail, if that is the case, would be silly and avoided if possible since it leaves anybody open to intimidation and leaves them all free to corroborate each others stories.

    It will all come out in the wash sure

    Edit: just to point out also, if you knew much about it you would probably be able to work out a good few of the names yourself, if you wouldnt be able to do that then the names will probably mean nothing to you anyway


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    #43
    kryogen
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    Also, of the 18 that were in court, not all of them are interconnected in terms of the charges, and different people facing different charges.
    The court heard that the 18 cases were similar but not all were interconnected, and some of the accused face a number of charges.


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    #44
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    Also, of the 18 that were in court, not all of them are interconnected in terms of the charges, and different people facing different charges.

    So are you saying out of the people arrested not all were connected?


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    #45
    kryogen
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    deisedave wrote: »
    So are you saying out of the people arrested not all were connected?

    no saying that of the 24 picked arrested, 18 went to court but not all of them are connected to each other in relation to being charged.

    Not one big group like, more like a couple of different factions of dealers i guess.

    Edit: its quite odd that someone thanked that post isn't it........................................................................


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    #46
    dlofnep
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    Few names flying around the place. You'd be barking up the wrong tree to find out.


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    #47
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    no saying that of the 24 picked arrested, 18 went to court but not all of them are connected to each other in relation to being charged.

    Not one big group like, more like a couple of different factions of dealers i guess.

    Yeah I was thinking 24 would be to big of a group to all be related.


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    #48
    deisedave
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    dlofnep wrote: »
    Few names flying around the place. You'd be barking up the wrong tree to find out.

    What you mean.


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    #49
    M cebee
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    I wonder do these raids or seizures do any good

    the people arrested cost money on police time ,courts and prison

    the price of stuff goes up and addicts rob more

    even worse scumbags move in to take their place


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    #50
    kryogen
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    According to Rte only a small amount of cocaine and a small amount of heroin was seized


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    #51
    Finnbar01
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    M cebee wrote: »
    I wonder do these raids or seizures do any good

    the people arrested cost money on police time ,courts and prison

    the price of stuff goes up and addicts rob more

    even worse scumbags move in to take their place

    I have to agree with you here.

    When dealers are taking out, they're usually replaced all most instantly and usually by people that want to establish themselves and are not hesitant in using violence to achieve this.


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    #52
    deisedave
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    Finnbar01 wrote: »
    I have to agree with you here.

    When dealers are taking out, they're usually replaced all most instantly and usually by people that want to establish themselves and are not hesitant in using violence to achieve this.

    I actually agree I hate drugs but the current crop dont tend to be overly violent at the moment.


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    #53
    kryogen
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    Thats generally due to the big guys here actually being pretty small fry in comparison to the bigger guys nationwide. They get their stuff from the bigger drug gangs in the country.

    If they get locked up, the bigger drug gangs will just supply someone else.


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    #54
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    Thats generally due to the big guys here actually being pretty small fry in comparison to the bigger guys nationwide. They get their stuff from the bigger drug gangs in the country.

    If they get locked up, the bigger drug gangs will just supply someone else.
    It will happen sooner or later, the big gangs will come its just a matter of time tbh.


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    #55
    kryogen
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    deisedave wrote: »
    It will happen sooner or later, the big gangs will come its just a matter of time tbh.

    Will come here?


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    #56
    deisedave
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    kryogen wrote: »
    Will come here?

    Might not happen anytime soon but the way the country is going it is bound to happen sooner or later.


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    #57
    ciarandoherty77
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    Bit of a contradiction you wrote there, dont you think!!!!


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    #58
    kryogen
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    deisedave wrote: »
    Might not happen anytime soon but the way the country is going it is bound to happen sooner or later.

    A couple of Dundons were up a while ago alright, apparently looking at buying houses up here, dunno how much truth is really in it, but I would have thought the system will just stay the same, the big guys bring it in, supply it down the line until it reaches the local dealers and the users.

    No need to have a physical presence in every town/city while the local gangs are controlling things and buying from them. I would imagine in the line of work you would want as many buffers between you and the product as possible.


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    #59
    kryogen
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    ciarandoherty77 wrote: »
    Bit of a contradiction you wrote there, dont you think!!!!

    I love that in 5 years you have 2 posts.

    Sorry for going off topic, just think thats amazing!


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    #60
    ciarandoherty77
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    And your point is!!!!!


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    #61
    kryogen
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    ciarandoherty77 wrote: »
    And your point is!!!!!


    That its incredibly disciplined to have not posted at all for 3 and a bit years! Your first post was only a while ago. I found it amusing, no offence intended!


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