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Garden Moths 2012

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Figured it out :) the internet is great!

    It's a Caddisfly - Athripsodes albifrons


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    Moths at the ECNR last night:

    -Lesser Yellow Underwing (2)
    -Large Yellow Underwing (1)
    -Green Carpet (2)
    -Common Rustic agg (1)
    -Smoky Wainscot (2)
    -Small China-mark (1)
    -Small Wainscot (1)
    -Agonopteryx yeatiana (1)
    -Caddisflies (50+)

    Also a Udea lutealis nectaring on Black Knapweed on Friday evening.

    Speckled Wood is amazingly common in the woodland at the moment, with a few Small Torts and Large Whites also around. A small Buddleia in Newcastle village had three Large White, Peacock, Small Tort, two Admirals and best of all, a Painted Lady.

    Other notable wildlife included a Four-spotted Chaser, two Migrant Hawkers and a Buzzard getting mobbed by three Ravens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    littlebug wrote: »
    Figured it out :) the internet is great!

    It's a Caddisfly - Athripsodes albifrons

    That would explain why it wasn't in the moth guide!!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    I see you've been down the caddisfly journey again :pac:

    The forward facing almost parallel antennae are usually the give away that it is a caddisfly. I must have had about 5 caddisflies to every moth in trap this morning. The place was heaving with them, though none as smart of LB's :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Mothman wrote: »
    I see you've been down the caddisfly journey again :pac:

    :o:o yes kind of a frequent occurence now. I'm learning :rolleyes: slowly. The hour of looking at pictures of micros can't have done me any harm. All it took then when the penny dropped was a google image search for "black caddisfly" :D

    any day now I'll start a "Caddisflies I find in my garden" thread :p


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Caught our first Feathered Ranunculus x 2 of the season last night:

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    and a first for our garden (and possibly for Co. Dublin?) - Oblique Carpet:

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    and this micro, I think a member of the Gracillariidae family? About 6mm long.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    In the garden this morning:

    -Oblique Carpet (1)
    -Large Yellow Underwing (2)
    -Lesser BBYU (1)
    -Common Marbled Carpet (1)
    -Yponomeuta sp (1)
    -Blastobasis adustella (2)

    Like Half-cocked's record, the Oblique Carpet is new for the garden.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    V_Moth wrote: »
    Like Half-cocked's record, the Oblique Carpet is new for the garden.

    I caught one in Downpatrick a couple of years ago but nowhere else. Moths Ireland shows no Dublin records. Where are you located V Moth?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    I am in South Dublin. My only previous record was catch of about 20 to 30 at Tacumshin this time last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    V_Moth wrote: »
    I am in South Dublin. My only previous record was catch of about 20 to 30 at Tacumshin this time last year.

    Interesting that 2 turn up within a day of each other in Dublin after never being recorded before. Climate change? Blame George W Bush?;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Friday nights catch.
    Light Brown Apple Moth x
    Small Phoenix x 1
    Flame Shoulder x 4
    Small Wainscot x 1
    Straw Dot x 1
    Large Yellow Underwing x 2
    Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing x 1
    Rosy Rustic x 1
    Common Rustic agg x 1
    Square-spot Rustic x 1
    Six-striped Rustic x 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Last night was looking promising, then the temp dropped to 10 deg C. Did catch my first Setacious Hebrew Character of the season and stopped counting Light Brown Apple Moths after the first 50!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    Last night in the garden:

    -Caloptilia elongella/betulicola (1)

    New for garden. Not sure if the two species can be separated without dissection. The trap was beside a mature birch, but there is also a large stand of Alder nearby.

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    And the Oblique Carpet from earlier this week:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    trapped last night in lieu of tonight.

    Square Spot Rustic x 1
    Lesser Broad Bordered Yellow Underwing x 2
    Garden Rose Tortrix x 2
    Rosy Rustic x 2

    and this one.. is it a grey shoulder knot?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    My moth list from Inis Mór in early august. I've combined 3 nights here so it's not as impressive as it looks. Much thanks to Mothman for identification help.

    465 plutella porectella x1
    873 Blastobasis adustella x1
    937 Agapeta hamana x 3
    966 Cochylis atricapitana x3
    1048 Garden Rose Tortrix x9
    1111 Bactra lancealana x1
    1126 Ancylis badiana x 2
    1197 Eucosma campoliliana x1
    1201 Eucosma Cana x1
    1205 Bud Moth x 10
    1293 Garden Grass-veneer x 4
    1294 Crambus pascuella x 1
    1344 Eudonia mercurella x2
    1365 Pyrausta Despicata x 1
    1385 Ebulea crocealis x 1
    1510/1511 Merrifieldia ? x 1
    1428 Bee Moth x 9
    1462 Pempeliella dilutella x 2
    1483 Phycitodes binaevella x 1
    1634 The Lackey x 6
    1640 Drinker x 5
    1653 Buff Arches x 1
    1702 Small Fan-footed Wave x 2
    1713 Riband Wave x 2
    1725 Dark-Barred Twin-spot Carpet x 2
    1738 Common Carpet x 1
    1752 Purple Bar x 8
    1753 Striped Twin Spot Carpet x 2
    1765 Barred Yellow x 1
    1777 July Highflyer x 3
    1807 Grass Rivulet x 6
    1825 Lime-speck Pug x 11
    1830 Wormwood Pugx 2
    1834 Common Pug x 2
    1838 Tawny Speckled Pug x 3
    1846 Narrow Winged Pug x 2
    1862 Double-striped Pug x 1
    1884 Magpiex 2
    1906 Brimstone Moth x 1
    1917 Early Thorn x 3
    1921 Scalloped Oak x 6
    1922 Swallow-tailed Moth x 1
    2050 Common Footman x 6
    2057 Garden Tiger x 14
    2060 White Ermine x 1
    2064 Ruby Tiger x 1
    2081 White Line Dart x 3
    2102 Flame Shoulder x 3
    2107 Large Yellow Underwing x 2
    2111 Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing x 16
    2118 True Lover's Knot x 6
    2120 Ingrailed Clay x 2
    2130 Dotted Clay x 3
    2133 Six-striped Rustic x 2
    2147 Shears x 3
    2155 Dot Moth x 1
    2160 Bright-line Brown-eye x 2
    2176 Antler Moth x 2
    2192 Brown-line Bright-eye x 14
    2198 Smoky Wainscot x 8
    2289 Knot Grass x 1
    2299 Mouse Moth x 2
    2303 Straw Underwingx 1
    2306 Angle Shades x 1
    2321 Dark Arches x 13
    2342 Rosy Minor x 9
    2343x Common Rustic aggregate x 15
    2360 Ear Moth x 2
    2361 Rosy Rustic x 1
    2381 Uncertain x 9
    2434 Burnished Brass x 2
    2439 Gold Spot x 1
    2441 Silver Y x 1
    2450 Spectacle x 1

    I'll be trapping there again tonight. I'll go all out and trap at the front of house which means getting up very early to get there before the thrushes do :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Rained a lot of the night.

    Large Yellow Underwing x 6
    Gold Spot x 2
    Rosy Rustic x 2
    Angle Shades x 1

    and these three that I can't identify with any confidence (though they look like they should be easy:o).
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    Not a micro in sight and the robin sat less than a metre from me as I checked the trap. No mothless wings around so I think I got there first :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭Mothman


    littlebug wrote: »

    and this one.. is it a grey shoulder knot?

    No, and I don't know off hand....Try Grey Chi, but don't know off hand if it is the right season.
    littlebug wrote: »

    and these three that I can't identify with any confidence (though they look like they should be easy:o).
    Top one don't know off hand. Not even a suggestion. The lower 2 are Square-spot Rustic.

    Don't have time to delve into books to try ID the 2 unknowns for now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    I wouldn't be surprised if all three are Square-spot Rusts. Pretty sue that the last two are that species.

    Maybe the Robin has his own moth trap and is just comparing catches :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Mothman wrote: »
    No, and I don't know off hand....Try Grey Chi, but don't know off hand if it is the right season.

    I think Grey Chi is right.
    The lower 2 are Square-spot Rustic.

    Nearly had them. wasn't 100% sure they were the same:rolleyes:

    V_Moth wrote: »
    I wouldn't be surprised if all three are Square-spot Rusts. Pretty sue that the last two are that species.

    The top one was very grey in comparison but nothing would surprise me. I'll keep trawling. Maybe I've found a new species :pac:
    Maybe the Robin has his own mouth trap and is just comparing catches :P

    :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    littlebug wrote: »

    I'll keep trawling.

    Could it be 2231a Northern Deep Brown Dart? Seems to be a cluster of them on the Burren so not impossible that they'd be out here?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Still quiet a few moths here on Friday night.Some that seem a bit late.
    Brimstone x 4
    Straw Dot x 1
    Peach Blossom x 3
    Light Brown Apple Moth x 7
    Flame Shoulder x 3
    Gold Spot x 3
    Angle Shades x 1
    Small Wainscot x 3
    Small Phoenix x 1
    Four-spotted Footman x 1
    Common Marbled Carpet x 1
    Green Carpet x 1
    Common Carpet x 2
    Garden Carpet x 1
    Small Fan-footed Wave x 2
    Double Striped Pug x 1
    Square-spot Rustic x 5
    Flounced Rustic x 1
    Rosy Rustic x 1
    Six-striped Rustic x 1
    Large Yellow Underwing x 4
    Lesser Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing x 3
    Lesser Yellow Underwing x 1
    Garden Rose Tortrix x 1
    Emmelina Monodactyla x 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    In the garden this morning:

    -Large Yellow Underwing (3)
    -Lesser Yellow Underwing (1)
    -Common Marbled Carpet (2)
    -Copper Underwing (1)
    -Mother-of-Pearl (1)

    The last two species are new for the year. Also, a few Redpolls, Siskins and Meadow Pipits flying south - summer is definitely over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Got my first ever Small Wainscot and Gold Spot last night - in a wet and windy west Galway.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Friday nights catch.Double the number for the same week last year.
    Angle Shades x 2
    Brimstone x 2
    Dark Arches x 1
    Frosted Orange x 1
    Large Yellow Underwing x 3
    Leser Yellow Underwing x 1
    Small Wainscot x 2
    Light Brown Apple Moth x 1
    Straw Dot x 1
    Small Phoenix x 1
    Pink-barred Sallow x 1
    Square Spot Rustic x 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    In the ECNR on Sunday night:

    -Canary-shouldered Thorn (1)
    -Small Wainscot (1)
    -Hypatima rhomboidella (1)

    The last one looks to be new for the square. Speckled Wood is currently abundant in the reserve, with one Small Tort also seen. Plenty of Siskins, Redpolls and Meadow Pipits around as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Empty trap last night in Dunfanaghy, Co Donegal. Did find a Common Plume and another yet to be ID'd micro nearby. Some bushes that were covered in 100's of Buff Tip caterpillars this time last year had 3 this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Just two moths in the trap this morning (and no egg trays oops :o).

    1 x Angles Shades and 1 x Sallow.
    Sallow is new to me, nice to get something new at this stage :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    Got some nice moths on a trip to Downpatrick last night. Pink-barred Sallow, Magpie, Set Hebrew Character, July Highflyer, Silver Y, Small Wainscot, plus these:

    Black Rustic
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    Canary-shouldered Thorn
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    Angle Shades
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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭thebishop


    Still a few showing up here.
    Flame Shoulder x 1
    Brimstone x 1
    Square-spot Rustic x 1
    Rosy Rustic x 2
    Lesser Yellow Underwing x 1
    Light Brown Apple Moth x 1
    Frosted Orange x 1
    Garden Carpet x 1


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,319 ✭✭✭Half-cocked


    6.6 deg C last night.

    2 Square Spot Rustics
    3 Feathered Ranunculus

    Thats all.


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