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Should Iran be allowed Nuclear Power?

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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    With a very dangerous mix of Religious Fanaticism and Nuclear Power we have to be realistic and very practical and remember that there is no such thing as a local Nuclear Explosion .With the winds blowing to the west we would likely receive some of the fallout .Of course we must have a right to object to any unstable regime having the ability to make a Nuclear Bomb .


  • Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭carfiosaoorl


    No
    Iran should be allowed nuclear power as much as any other country should be allowed it. Why would one country be allowed it and not another?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Iran should be allowed nuclear power as much as any other country should be allowed it. Why would one country be allowed it and not another?

    Because some countries have Hotheaded Leaders and others don't .


  • Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭carfiosaoorl


    No
    paddyandy wrote: »
    Because some countries have Hotheaded Leaders and others don't .

    Rubbish, the countries who have nuclear power do more damage around the world than those who have not and they are exactly the countries who think they have the right to decide whether or not other countries should be allowed it. The OP's question says it all "Should Iran be allowed" who the **** has a right to stop them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,994 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Rubbish, the countries who have nuclear power do more damage around the world than those who have not and they are exactly the countries who think they have the right to decide whether or not other countries should be allowed it. The OP's question says it all "Should Iran be allowed" who the **** has a right to stop them?

    Most of the countries with nuclear power don't do any damage around the world, they just mind their own business.

    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/reactors.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Luftwaffles


    No
    Iran is not entitled to produce Nuclear Weaponry under obligation from their signing of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. However it's well within their rights to utilise nuclear energy for power generation regardless of how the West perceives them. As long as it is within the bounds of the Iranian constitution, then the answer is yes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    No
    Kim Jong only produced Nuclear weapons in the DPRK because of the USA's illegal invasion of Iraq. Iran should be allowed nuclear power and to use it as they see fit and if thats to stave off the encroach of the western terrorists then so be it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭mercenary2


    No
    Sauve wrote: »
    Have you no concern for anybody outside of Ireland?
    Or do you really believe that as long as we stay 'friends' with Iran then we won't be affected by whatever they may choose to do with their nuclear power?

    what about all the other countries with it they could do just as much damage but you have no prob with them having it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭Jayob10


    as someone of Iranian heritage I find it laughable how some on here seem to find it "cool" to stand up to those who express concern at our development of nuclear capability.

    Its an Anti American thing I get that, but don't try and pass yourselves off as experts in this area.

    My country has no history of "invading other lands" but we have a history of brutality amongst our own people, which is just as damning.

    Anyone who knows anything about current day Iran knows its not a religious haven, there are many sections of society. Its also dangerous to claim that its a perfectly normal country that is depicted poorly by the West for propaganda reasons.

    Nuclear capability is seen mainly as a defensive measure but in our case our leader (who is sometimes reasonable, sometimes certifiable- which makes him all the more dangerous) is looking to be proactive with it, and Israel really will beware it is that simple.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,259 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    No
    I don't believe anyone really has an issue with Iran with nuclear power. It's the unmonitored and unregulated enrichment that is at issue.

    Iran would do well to emulate the example of Brazil. That country's enrichment program was similarly objected to by a number of countries to include the US, but negotiations led to an agreement of monitoring. Brazil now enriches most of its own uranium, the last plant should be coming online in the next year if memory serves


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NinjaK


    No
    Jayob10 wrote: »
    as someone of Iranian heritage I find it laughable how some on here seem to find it "cool" to stand up to those who express concern at our development of nuclear capability.

    Its an Anti American thing I get that, but don't try and pass yourselves off as experts in this area.

    My country has no history of "invading other lands" but we have a history of brutality amongst our own people, which is just as damning.

    Anyone who knows anything about current day Iran knows its not a religious haven, there are many sections of society. Its also dangerous to claim that its a perfectly normal country that is depicted poorly by the West for propaganda reasons.

    Nuclear capability is seen mainly as a defensive measure but in our case our leader (who is sometimes reasonable, sometimes certifiable- which makes him all the more dangerous) is looking to be proactive with it, and Israel really will beware it is that simple.

    cool? you must be mad. Its anything but "cool" to stand up for Iran in todays Ireland.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    America doesn't have a problem with Iran having nuclear power they just want Iran to stop enriching uranium because then they will be able to make weapons grade uranium. America has no problem with other countries doing the enriching on Irans behalf but Iran doesn't want this.

    +1 alot of anti american rubbish being posted


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    No
    RichieC wrote: »
    If Iran started powering it's country with nuclear power it could turn all it's oil into exports and become very wealthy and powerful. another reason the yanks won't have it. Self determination is only reserved for those deemed friendly to the US hegemony.

    spot on - america's policy is all about being and maintaining number 1.
    human rights and the rest is just a smoke screen - they couldn't give a hoot about gaddaffi or anybody.

    America doesn't have a problem with Iran having nuclear power they just want Iran to stop enriching uranium because then they will be able to make weapons grade uranium. America has no problem with other countries doing the enriching on Irans behalf but Iran doesn't want this.

    And why does american have the right to demand this?

    Allowing Iran to use other countries (which I wasn't aware of but lets go with it) it's a clear example of them keep the iranians back to as to keep American domaniance .

    All this is about the power of America and the dollar - nothing less.

    do you think if gaddafi or saddam would have been attacked had they allowed american companies in - instead of nationalising their oil ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Conor108




  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Rubbish, the countries who have nuclear power do more damage around the world than those who have not and they are exactly the countries who think they have the right to decide whether or not other countries should be allowed it. The OP's question says it all "Should Iran be allowed" who the **** has a right to stop them?

    right minded people. come out of the fog


  • Registered Users Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    NinjaK wrote: »
    cool? you must be mad. Its anything but "cool" to stand up for Iran in todays Ireland.

    ya, because if it was you'd switch stance


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    And why does american have the right to demand this?

    Allowing Iran to use other countries (which I wasn't aware of but lets go with it) it's a clear example of them keep the iranians back to as to keep American domaniance .

    All this is about the power of America and the dollar - nothing less.

    do you think if gaddafi or saddam would have been attacked had they allowed american companies in - instead of nationalising their oil ??

    It's not just America, it's America, the EU, the UN,the IAEA and probably others, I'm not sure. How does other countries enriching uranium for Iran, keep them back and assert America's dominance? It still allows Iran to pursue their civilian nuclear programme just without giving them the material needed for nuclear weapons. If all America wanted to stop Iran exporting more oil (and thus getting richer and more powerful) allowing another country to enrich uranium for them wouldn't accomplish this, it would in fact do the exact opposite.

    If America just wants to stop countries exporting more oil (I thought the reason for Iraq and Syria was so they could get their hands on more oil so this is a bit hypocritical but I'll go with it) why wouldn't they be doing similar to Brazil and Saudi Arabia, both of which are big producers of oil and both are pursuing a civilian nuclear programme. Surely this means they would be exporting more oil and getting richer and stronger just like Iran so they should be stepping in there as well. Or is it because Brazil and Saudi Arabia have taken necessary steps to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons unlike Iran.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    No
    america and the EU usually sing from the same hymn sheet

    Esp since the economic downturn in the west - they're very aligned as they fear losing dominance to china and russia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    Jayob10 wrote: »
    Its an Anti American thing I get that, but don't try and pass yourselves off as experts in this area.

    Could it not simply be an anti-war or anti-imperialism thing? It's hard to not appear anti-American in a thread where people are ironically claiming that "They hate us for our freedoms".
    My country has no history of "invading other lands" but we have a history of brutality amongst our own people, which is just as damning.

    Practically every country has a history of brutality against its own people. Can you explain why this uniquely disqualifies Iran?
    Anyone who knows anything about current day Iran knows its not a religious haven, there are many sections of society. Its also dangerous to claim that its a perfectly normal country that is depicted poorly by the West for propaganda reasons.

    Who has claimed that it's a perfectly normal country? Can you link their post? It's an oppressive theocracy that is depicted poorly by some western media outlets for propaganda reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    should America be allowed nuclear bombs? i would consider them a lot more dangerous than the Iranians


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    should America be allowed nuclear bombs? i would consider them a lot more dangerous than the Iranians
    The Yankee government and Iran should not have nuclear weapons. Limit the Yankee war machine and Iran of all its weapons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    No
    I despise nukes and I wish the damn things had never been invented.
    However, Iran's enemies have copious amounts of nukes and it's very well known that they are more than willing to meddle in the internal affairs of a sovereign nation in order to get what they want.
    Let's not forget that Iran's current situation is partially the result of a covert CIA operation to overthrow a democratically elected government which made decisions the West wasn't happy about.

    They have every right to their independence and sovereignty, and if a nuclear deterrent is the only way they can force their enemies to back off and leave them alone, so be it. It's unfortunate, but it's a reaction to being repeatedly screwed over and used as a pawn by everyone else. If Ireland was treated that way by world powers I sure as hell would support our government flexing a bit of muscle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    No
    heres an idea, how about the UN and the likes approach iran and help them out with their nuclear program instead of letting them fiddle around in the dark and prevent what could go wrong when your messing with something you dont understand,

    id be more paranoid of somthing going wrong with their reactors due to them overlooking something, and then youll have a much bigger problem,

    i dont see why any nation has any right to tell another nation what they can and cant do, nuclear technology has been around for decades, and weve all know the benifits of its use and consequences of its missue,

    personally id rather iran was offered assistance on how to proceed with their nuclear program safely, rather than them messing around with it,


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    don ramo wrote: »
    heres an idea, how about the UN and the likes approach iran and help them out with their nuclear program instead of letting them fiddle around in the dark and prevent what could go wrong when your messing with something you dont understand,

    id be more paranoid of somthing going wrong with their reactors due to them overlooking something, and then youll have a much bigger problem,

    i dont see why any nation has any right to tell another nation what they can and cant do, nuclear technology has been around for decades, and weve all know the benifits of its use and consequences of its missue,

    personally id rather iran was offered assistance on how to proceed with their nuclear program safely, rather than them messing around with it,

    The Russians helped them build their reactor so they were given assistance, lots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    No
    The Russians helped them build their reactor so they were given assistance, lots.
    at least someone is seeing sense and helping them out, their gonna go nuclear one way or the other, id rather someone was beside them making sure their doing it right,


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    don ramo wrote: »
    at least someone is seeing sense and helping them out, their gonna go nuclear one way or the other, id rather someone was beside them making sure their doing it right,

    Once again, the problem isn't with Iran building reactors, it's with them enriching uranium.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti




    This is a great video if anyone hasn't seen it. It might help illuminate why some people here are more sympathetic towards Iran than others.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Sean Bateman


    The loony liberal left are at their most dangerous when it comes to subjects like this.

    Under no circumstances should Iran be allowed to have nuclear capabilities. Just like North Korea shouldn't.

    The US should attack Iran now and destroy their capability. Do it now. Use bunker busters, napalm, whatever's required.

    Anyone opposing such a course of action needs their head examined.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    The loony liberal left are at their most dangerous when it comes to subjects like this.

    Under no circumstances should Iran be allowed to have nuclear capabilities. Just like North Korea shouldn't.

    The US should attack Iran now and destroy their capability. Do it now. Use bunker busters, napalm, whatever's required.

    Anyone opposing such a course of action needs their head examined.

    Is there something about the surname Bateman that makes people so incredibly reasonable?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,331 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Apparently if you are an oil rich country, one of the few in the world, it's essential that you develop nuclear power.

    Are the Iranians trying to tell us something about oil reserves?


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