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2012 ISSF European 10m Airgun Championships

  • 14-02-2012 6:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭


    Right, so the Europeans kick off tomorrow (the 15th) with Equipment Control and Official training.
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    The airgun range mid-construction

    We have a team of four competing, with Joe Kinane as manager:
    • Ray Kane and Paul O'Boyle in Mens Air Rifle
    • Aisling Miller in Womens Air Rifle
    • Peter Friend in Mens Air Pistol
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    The Irish Team



    The timetable for the events we're in (in IRISH time) is:
    SATURDAY
    09:00-10:45 10m Air Pistol Men (Peter Friend)
    12:30 Finals 10m Air Pistol Men

    12:45-14:00 10m Air Rifle Women (Aisling Miller)
    16:05 Finals 10m Air Rifle Women

    SUNDAY
    11:00-12:45 10m Air Rifle Men (Ray Kane, Paul O'Boyle)
    14:45 Finals 10m Air Rifle Men

    The live scores will be up here.

    Our lads are up against 44 other nations, and 563 other competitors. This is a major match, with the last four quota places in the London Games up in each of the main Olympic programme events (Mens Air Rifle, Womens Air Rifle, Mens Air Pistol, Womens Air Pistol) and the competition will be fierce, but we have a really good shot at winning one this year; if we manage that, it will be the first time ever if it's a pistol place, and the first time in over a century if it's a rifle place.

    The ISSF page on this is here, and here is the official website.

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    And the temperature on the ground over there now is -5C, scheduled to fall to -13C by thursday, and slowly climb back up to -6C by the end of the match, so our shooters will be cold, burning off lots of calories just to stay warm and dehydrating very rapidly (more so than you would at +20C). On the upside, that's exactly the kind of conditions that Intershoot gave us, so they've seen how the cold affects them.

    Hold your breath folks....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭FLOYDSTER


    Good luck guys and girls!!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    Four quota places up for grabs, not five.

    And good luck indeed :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    rrpc wrote: »
    Four quota places up for grabs, not five.
    Whoops, my bad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Team's all safely ensconced, equipment control went off without a hitch, and good training on the pistol range today (haven't heard from the rifle folk yet):

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    The weather there is best described by photos:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Fantastic, if HUGE shot of the range from Aisling:

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Any word from anyone? How is the training/practice going? Are they finding the conditions a problem?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Training and practice apparently went well for Peter, haven't heard from the others. They're on hold at the moment, having gotten through Equipment Control (Paul had some small issue with his belt, but that passed after a bit of trimming); so right now they're resting up, acclimatising and getting ready for the matches on the weekend.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Sparks wrote: »
    ..........having gotten through Equipment Control (Paul had some small issue with his belt, but that passed after a bit of trimming); ..........
    Seen that being done a couple of times. I used to complain about having to weigh the rifle for an FTR shoot, but when LC showed me the testing for the jacket, trousers, etc. Well i complain no more.

    Will they get in an practice before the weekend or are they "happy" to rest up?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Oh, and you might like this: It's Paul being the flag-bearer for the Irish Team during the opening ceremony:

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    And as to the conditions.... :D

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    No word on whether anyone's been brave enough to do the Sauna->Snowbank run just yet :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I know the conditions are no good for shooting, but it looks great.:)
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭MiGiD


    Conditions in the range are really good. It's a really nice set up. It is however snowing outside right now.

    Peter and I have pre-event training tomorrow and the boys have it on Saturday.

    The AR50 (now actually the AR30) has been moved from this evening to tomorrow evening as a lot of people have yet to arrive.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,726 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    I presume this ................
    MiGiD wrote: »
    The AR50 (now actually the AR30) has been moved from this evening to tomorrow evening as a lot of people have yet to arrive.

    ............. is down to the conditions as shown in the pics posted above.

    Best of luck to you all. Will be following your progress over the next few days.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    MiGiD wrote: »
    The AR50 (now actually the AR30) has been moved from this evening to tomorrow evening as a lot of people have yet to arrive.
    That's going to be interesting to watch (for the non-ISSF shooters, this is a new ISSF match format being experimented with, a 50-shot match with mixed teams). Photos please! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Mod Note: Split out some posts to the ISSF Equipment Control thread to keep this one all tidy and on-topic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Lots of flags flying out there (45 nations and 560-odd shooters!):

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    All the VERY BEST of luck to the Irish Team!

    I was there just before Christmas visiting friends in Oulu and Tampere....it was quite chilly even then, but nothing like we have in Canada.

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the official competition website:
    Air Pistol and Air Rifle finals live on the internet

    You can watch Women Junior Air pistol final tonight on the internet 18.05 finnish time. Finlands national broadcast company YLE is broadcastin all the finals live and those broadcasts are seen here http://areena.yle.fi/live

    On the same internetpage http://areena.yle.fi/live you can also watch:



    Friday 17th (Notice that those times are finnish time)

    Women Junior Air Pistol Final 17.35

    Men Junior Air Rifle Final 18.50

    Saturday 18th

    Men Air Pistol Final 14.30

    Women Air Rifle Final 18.05

    Sunday 19th

    Women Air Pistol Final 15.45

    Men Air Rifle Final 16.45


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    A quick glimpse into things alongside the team's efforts...

    The plunge pool outside the team's accomodations (it's Finland, where saunas are regards as being as fancy and rare as showers are here).

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    Regrettably, no word yet on anyone having worked up the nerve to try it out :(
    Rather regretting not being there now, even if only as chef de partie, 'cos that does look tempting :D


    (Probably should explain that when I say "only" chef de partie, it's not slagging off Sonia O'Sullivan or whomever's doing team manager; it's 'cos that's what we were calling the folk cooking the food for the team back in Intershoot :D )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭extremetaz


    Sparks wrote: »
    where saunas are regards as being as fancy and rare as showers are here

    wood sauna's are where it's at Sparks, if you get the oppertunity, give one a go - they're fantastic!

    and if you're using the outdoor plung pool make sure they give you the "slipper-shovel-brush" talk first. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    extremetaz wrote: »
    wood sauna's are where it's at Sparks, if you get the oppertunity, give one a go - they're fantastic!
    Been there, done that, have the funny photos :D
    They're absolutely fantastic for a tired back after a day's shooting - it's hard to describe how much better you feel after a few rounds from sauna to snow. You go in with your back feeling like someone just spent a half-hour punching you in the kidneys and you come out feeling like you just woke up after a month's nap in a feather bed.
    Why the hell we don't have more saunas here, I'll never know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Back on topic, this was taken a few moments ago. It's a photo of a TV over in Finland:

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    They're showing all the finals this week live on TV over there.
    Now *that* is the kind of publicity we could use here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Aisling should be shooting now... (that link won't show shots until she moves from sighters to competition shots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    ...and she's off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    58/60 so far. To give you an idea of the competitive level here, the top 13 shooters in the rankings so far haven't shot anything but tens so far. Sonja Pfeilshifter's at the top of the pack so far with thirteen tens in a row, but they're not even half-way yet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Fupping suis ascor website, not updating properly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    There we go. 95 98 and 74/80 for the third string.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Walls


    That live link refuses to load for me, it just hangs...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Worst. Website. Ever. Fupping suis ascor have all the money and the ISSF recognition, their website software should be a damn sight better than this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    381 for Aisling. International PB I believe. Shoot-off on 397 for the final.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Yeah, thats a new international PB, and only a few points below her domestic PB. With no coach over there, and up against large fully funded teams and shooters like Emmons and Pfeilschifter in a match where 396/400 means you don't even get close to a finals, that's not a bad end result. I know her coach back here is well pleased with that score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Scoresheet up:

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    That's the team done now for today; tomorrow at 1100 Irish time for the Mens Air Rifle match...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    The guys should be in the middle of their ten minute prep time now. Live scores up here, but the website is acting up even more today than yesterday :(

    Ray and Paul's targets should be here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Actually, that took so long to get the links, they should have already started by now and should be in the sighters...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    That website is giving me gray hairs. Reports say Ray's first string is looking like a 99, but it's not showing up yet...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    381 for Aisling. International PB I believe. Shoot-off on 397 for the final.

    Well done, that girl!! Can't ask for better than you have ever done before.

    tac


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    From the NTSA website:
    European Airgun Championships 2012 - Vierumaki
    Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:07 Joe Kinane


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    Opening ceremony


    Straight from their successes in Intershoot, Ray Kane, Paul O'Boyle, Peter Friend and Aisling Miller, accompanied by team Manager Joe Kinane and Peter's coach Rob Stubbs, headed for Finland on Tuesday 14th February for the supreme test of nerves that is the European Airgun Championships. 593 competitors from 45 nations were chasing just 16 remaining quota places for the Olympics - four in each of the men's and women's pistol and rifle events. Billed as the "Gateway to London", the sports centre at Vierumaki and the local town of Heinola certainly put on a superbly organised event against a backdrop of snow and ice.

    Our rifle competitors and team manger travelled to Helsinki airport via Schiphol, Amsterdam. On arrival at Helsinki we were pleasantly surprised to see our bags appear on the carousel immediately we arrived at the baggage hall. An announcement for "O'Boyle, Kane and Miller to come to the Servisair desk " over the PA system boded well initially, but turned to disappointment when we were told that the rifles had not been transferred in Amsterdam! The best the Servisair agent could promise us was that the rifles would arrive on the midnight flight and would be delivered to our hotel in Vierumaki the following day at 1 or 2pm. Despite our protests that we needed the rifles for free practice at 9am, there seemed to be no way that we would get them from Servisair any sooner. A 90 minute coach jouney brought us to the range in Vierumaki, where we organised accreditation photos and deposited some of the gear. A chat with the transport organisers gave me a glimmer of hope that they might be able to do something for us, so we got baggage receipts photocopied and given to a coach driver to pass to the Finnish Shooting Association volunteers at the airport, where they were awaiting teams arriving overnight. At breakfast the next morning we got the welcome news that they had retreived the rifle cases on the midnight flight and that they were waiting for us in the competition office - phew!

    After the taster of winter weather in Holland, the team got to see some serious snow and ice. Temperatures of -5C day-time and -10C night-time were experienced throughout our stay. The previous week the mercury had dropped to -25C, so we really didn't have anything to complain about! Once you were wrapped up well, the 1k walk to and from the range (buses are for wimps) was really enjoyable. Apart from a few sinus problems caused by the cold, dry air we had no issues. The sky was overcast for most of our stay, with only a couple of hours of clear sun on two days, so it was pretty gloomy. I was told by a local that the snow clears about the first week in May!

    The main range facilities were superb, great light and plenty of space in a comfortable temperature. The Finals Hall was in a completely separate building about 500m away, where finalists and their gear had to be bussed. This, too, was superbly equipped and the national broadcaster YLE had set up an array of cameras to cover the finals live on TV and feed them to Eurovision. Both halls are multi-purpose and are used for basketball, tennis, indoor golf etc. and the airgun range facilities are only temporary.

    After a good training session on Wednesday, we attended Equipment Control, where, despite use of a ticketing system it was hours before the rifle shooters got through the process. There were no issues with Aisling's gear as we had checked it in UCD prior to the event. Paul had a slight issue with the jacket overlap as it was done using a different gauge (spring loaded) than the one we use. Once we moved the buttons it passed ok and both sets were given an ISSF tag and yellow equipment control card which will eliminate the need to go through control in future comps. That evening we attended the opening ceremony, where Paul O'Boyle was our flag-bearer. After a colourful display of traditional (and some not-so-traditional) dancing, and speeches from the great and good, we headed back to the hotel for dinner and an early night.

    In contrast to Intershoot, where there was a competition each day, ESC/ISSF championships attract larger numbers of juniors and seniors competing in rifle and pistol disciplines separately, so there is a slow build-up to a qualification event, with training sessions for seniors built around the juniors events. In our case this meant that we had a day off completely on Thursday, with pre-event training (PET) on Friday for Aisling and Peter's qualification events on Saturday. We had the opportunity to view the Running Target events which were taking place in the same building as the Finals Hall. This event has two competitors taking alternate shots at a 10m target which moves across the field of view from left to right or right to left with slow and fast runs. The competitor is standing just like regular 10m rifle, but uses a scoped rifle (4x) with a weighted barrel.

    Pre-event training went well for Peter and Aisling on Friday. Competition day on Saturday was a major stressor for both and Aisling improved her international PB with a 381. After a ding-dong battle in the final, Sonja Pfeilschifter controlled the situation to beat Katerina Emmons for the women's title.

    Ray and Paul had their share of issues also. Ray particularly so as he had been the subject of close scrutiny by the judges during pre-event training for an alleged breach of the spirit of the rule 7.5.1.2.4/6 which states that the rifle must not touch the jacket or chest beyond the area of the right shoulder or chest (right-handed shooter) and must not touch or rest against any other point or object. They felt that his fingers around the grip might be touching the jacket at some point. Ray had to modify his position sightly to ensure compliance and this caused additional pressures during the match. Ray's score of 585 was all the more admirable given the circumstances, but left him out of contention for the quota place which would have needed 595 on the day.

    Overall, a learning experience for the group. An object lesson in how we need to be at every international competition in order to build the familiarity with the officials and competitors to gain mutual respect and eliminate those performance anxieties.

    Some very good photos on the webpage as well.


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