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LGBT community exhibitionism

  • 12-02-2012 9:53pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,
    Just wanted to get views from you guys/gals regarding LGBT people being too "in your face" in public acts of affection which, in my experience become acts of exhibitionism. I think its in bad taste regardless of whether its from straight couples or gay couples but I think that a lot of the gay community engage in this behaviour to provoke a response. Your thoughts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭James W


    What do you mean, exactly? Give an example.

    Why should it provoke a response unless public decency is at issue?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    James W wrote: »
    What do you mean, exactly? Give an example.

    Why should it provoke a response unless public decency is at issue?

    In the pub - wearing the faces off each other, heavy petting etc.
    It gets noticed and is frowned upon (straight couples too) so the motive, in my opinion is deliberate seeking a reaction


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Emmmm yeah. Go to any night club and you'll witness any straight couple wearing the face off each other. I wouldn't have a problem with a gay couple doing the same. Unless you're talking about full on dry humping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Emmmm yeah. Go to any night club and you'll witness any straight couple wearing the face off each other. I wouldn't have a problem with a gay couple doing the same. Unless you're talking about full on dry humping.
    I mentioned the pub but you change the venue to a night club and express your support.
    Any chance you might comment on the actual conversation? "Emmmm yeah" -??????????????????????????????????????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Hi all,
    Just wanted to get views from you guys/gals regarding LGBT people being too "in your face" in public acts of affection which, in my experience become acts of exhibitionism. I think its in bad taste regardless of whether its from straight couples or gay couples but I think that a lot of the gay community engage in this behaviour to provoke a response. Your thoughts?

    I don't think it's a big problem

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I am nearly 30 years old, and I have never in my life seen a gay couple doing anything more sexual in public than your average straight couple. Ever. I have, however, seen straight couples getting FAR more sexual than anyone ever should in public.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    I am nearly 30 years old, and I have never in my life seen a gay couple doing anything more sexual in public than your average straight couple. Ever. I have, however, seen straight couples getting FAR more sexual than anyone ever should in public.
    Murphys law I guess - maybe you notice straight exhibitionism more than the gay variety ( an vice versa for me I guess). The "Ever" part of your post makes me think you need to get out more!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    Hi all,
    Just wanted to get views from you guys/gals regarding LGBT people being too "in your face" in public acts of affection which, in my experience become acts of exhibitionism. I think its in bad taste regardless of whether its from straight couples or gay couples but I think that a lot of the gay community engage in this behaviour to provoke a response. Your thoughts?

    It depends on what you mean by exhibitionism. If it's a simple kiss or holding hands in public, it should be viewed with the same contempt as a straight couple doing the same. Personally, it doesn't bother me (though I'm gay) but I don't see why a straight person should be so bothered with it either. Similarly, I'm not bothered by a straight couple kissing or holding hands in public.

    If, by exhibitionism, you're talking about public sexual acts, then I think that most of us would condemn that - it doesn't matter if you're straight or gay, it's downright indecent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    I don't think it's a big problem
    No big problem for you or just in general? Or its ok for such exhibitionism?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    No big problem for you or just in general? Or its ok for such exhibitionism?

    Can you define what sort of exhibitionism you're talking about - just to be clear. Do you mean sexual acts, or just a mere kiss and holding hands? Please enlighten us.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    It depends on what you mean by exhibitionism. If it's a simple kiss or holding hands in public, it should be viewed with the same contempt as a straight couple doing the same. Personally, it doesn't bother me (though I'm gay) but I don't see why a straight person should be so bothered with it either. Similarly, I'm not bothered by a straight couple kissing or holding hands in public.

    If, by exhibitionism, you're talking about public sexual acts, then I think that most of us would condemn that - it doesn't matter if you're straight or gay, it's downright indecent.
    Yeah regular kissing/holding hand is ok in my book - the heavy petting is not for me - I agree with you - I don't care if its straight or gay - I posted here because, in my experience, its more common in gay couples


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    No big problem for you or just in general? Or its ok for such exhibitionism?

    It depends what you mean by exhibitionism

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Murphys law I guess - maybe you notice straight exhibitionism more than the gay variety ( an vice versa for me I guess). The "Ever" part of your post makes me think you need to get out more!;)
    I've genuinely never seen two members of the same sex, in the flesh, kissing each other. The fact that I've never seen this would mean I would be a hell of a lot more likely to notice it should it ever actually happen.

    Mods: I think you should do yourselves a favour here and check out i8jnzg4lkvdchs's posting history regard LGBT issues and just close this thread now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Can you define what sort of exhibitionism you're talking about - just to be clear. Do you mean sexual acts, or just a mere kiss and holding hands? Please enlighten us.
    I was pretty clear in my earlier posts - please read them;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Yeah regular kissing/holding hand is ok in my book - the heavy petting is not for me - I agree with you - I don't care if its straight or gay - I posted here because, in my experience, its more common in gay couples

    what is?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Murphys law I guess - maybe you notice straight exhibitionism more than the gay variety ( an vice versa for me I guess). The "Ever" part of your post makes me think you need to get out more!;)

    How is my opinion Murphy's Law? You asked a question, I answered it, and yet because my answer isn't what you're looking for, you scoff at it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    Yeah regular kissing/holding hand is ok in my book - the heavy petting is not for me - I agree with you - I don't care if its straight or gay - I posted here because, in my experience, its more common in gay couples

    I think I'd echo baby and crumble here, I've never witnessed any excessive acts of "exhibitionism" by gay couples in public places - more so by straight couples though. Did you decide to post here based on a recent experience, or is it just a general observation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I was pretty clear in my earlier posts - please read them;)

    Ok - so in your opinion heavy petting in public is much more common amongst gay/lesbian couples than heterosexual couples and you think that they only do this to get some sort of reaction?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    How is my opinion Murphy's Law? You asked a question, I answered it, and yet because my answer isn't what you're looking for, you scoff at it?
    No. I didn't scoff but your "Ever" comment was a bit rich - I would scoff at that!
    My Murphys law comment was explained in the rest of that post - please re-read


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Ok - so in your opinion heavy petting in public is much more common amongst gay/lesbian couples than heterosexual couples and you think that they only do this to get some sort of reaction?
    Bingo!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    I think I'd echo baby and crumble here, I've never witnessed any excessive acts of "exhibitionism" by gay couples in public places - more so by straight couples though. Did you decide to post here based on a recent experience, or is it just a general observation?
    Yes, recent experience prompted my post but lifetime experience informed my post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    No. I didn't scoff but your "Ever" comment was a bit rich - I would scoff at that!
    My Murphys law comment was explained in the rest of that post - please re-read

    My 'ever' comment was to drive my point home. I also fail to see why my not seeing gay couples in exhibitionist behaviour engages Murphy's Law. Murphy's Law is stated as "If anything can go wrong, it will", which frankly makes no sense in this context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭peter barrins


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ok well

    In my lifetime experience I have noticed some "exhibitionism" of gay couples and some of straight couples - So I would have to say in my experience I don't think that this is a major problem - I really don't believe that it's more common for gay couples to engage in "exhibitionism" than for straight couples to do so

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    recent experience

    Elaborate please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    This post has been deleted.

    Clearly the OP has never been to Temple Bar (excluding the area near George's Street) on a Friday/Saturday nights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Elaborate please.
    Will do but only in a limited way - 2 girls snogging and feeling each other up. It was an exhibition and yes, it got my attention and I looked - but soon as they saw me looking I got the hairies!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    This post has been deleted.
    Ridiculous LOL. care to debate the issue or just engage in name calling like a child?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Will do but only in a limited way - 2 girls snogging and feeling each other up. It was an exhibition and yes, it got my attention and I looked - but soon as they saw me looking I got the hairies!

    Have you never seen a guy and a girl doing something similar? and also were you assuming these girls were doing what they were doing just to get a reaction?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Have you never seen a guy and a girl doing something similar? and also were you assuming these girls were doing what they were doing just to get a reaction?
    if a straight couple did the same I would question their motivation, just like I am regarding gay couples and the amount of them who engage in such behaviour


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    Will do but only in a limited way - 2 girls snogging and feeling each other up. It was an exhibition and yes, it got my attention and I looked - but soon as they saw me looking I got the hairies!

    Have you never seen a straight couple feeling each other up outside a nightclub? You do get around dear. :rolleyes: Not that I agree with it though, it's very naughty indeed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭peter barrins


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭peter barrins


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    This post has been deleted.
    So you are just interested in chastising me regarding my posts rather than actually engaging in debate. Move on somewhere else troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    OP, have you never gotten carried away with a partner in public? I know I have, just have all of my friends- most of whom are straight. I don't quite understand why this is a 'gay' thing all of a sudden...

    You still haven't addressed my earlier request for clarification around your usage of the phrase "Murphy's Law"...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    if a straight couple did the same I would question their motivation, just like I am regarding gay couples and the amount of them who engage in such behaviour

    Why do you question their motivation regardless of the sexuality of the two individuals involved? :confused:

    Why do you assume that they (particularly LGBT's) are looking for attention/a reaction when they do this?

    Is it so hard to accept that maybe they are just doing it for their own personal pleasure?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    This post has been deleted.
    and your previous post mentioned childish! Do irony much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭KDII


    I wear the face of my girlfriend as much as she lets me. My consideration of situation ends there to be honest, within reason of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,156 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    if a straight couple did the same I would question their motivation, just like I am regarding gay couples and the amount of them who engage in such behaviour

    You seem to have an issue with gay couples doing this though (more so than straight couples) - in the original post you questioned the motivations of gay couples but didn't question that of straight couples

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭James W


    if a straight couple did the same I would question their motivation, just like I am regarding gay couples and the amount of them who engage in such behaviour
    Is the heavy petting putting impure thoughts in your mind? Three Our Fathers and ten Hail Marys. Sound like some repressed sexual desires could be at play here!

    Quite honestly I've never noticed such things and I've done a fair bit of socialising in my time - not to mention the aul' heavy petting! Don't know why a grown, married man would be bothered about this. It's like something an old nun would be offended by! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    Why do you question their motivation regardless of the sexuality of the two individuals involved? :confused:

    Why do you assume that they (particularly LGBT's) are looking for attention/a reaction when they do this?

    Is it so hard to accept that maybe they are just doing it for their own personal pleasure?
    As I said at the start (its a good idea to read the thread before commenting!;)) I think that this behaviour i more common among gay couples and I posted here querying this is the case


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Pacifist Pigeon


    Make I invoke the "Pics, Gifs or GTFO" clause?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    As I said at the start (its a good idea to read the thread before commenting!;)) I think that this behaviour i more common among gay couples and I posted here querying this is the case

    You failed to address the point I was making and instead assumed I didn't read the thread before posting, which I actually did. Well done :)

    I want to know why you question the motivation of people engaged in what you describe? Why do you assume that they are 'looking for a reaction'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    As I said at the start (its a good idea to read the thread before commenting!;)) I think that this behaviour i more common among gay couples and I posted here querying this is the case

    You're like a broken record. You ask if gay people are more exhibitionist- everyone who has posted has said no, yet you keep on. Just because you are not getting the answers you want doesn't give you the right to keep on about it, and accusing people of not engaging with you. Disagreement is engagement, you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    James W wrote: »
    Is the heavy petting putting impure thoughts in your mind? Three Our Fathers and ten Hail Marys. Sound like some repressed sexual desires could be at play here!

    Quite honestly I've never noticed such things and I've done a fair bit of socialising in my time - not to mention the aul' heavy petting! Don't know why a grown, married man would be bothered about this. It's like something an old nun would be offended by! :D
    Yea, everything has a sexual agenda???? Wait, no, it doesn't. I wonder where such a mindset comes from?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    You seem to have an issue with gay people

    FYP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    You're like a broken record. You ask if gay people are more exhibitionist- everyone who has posted has said no, yet you keep on. Just because you are not getting the answers you want doesn't give you the right to keep on about it, and accusing people of not engaging with you. Disagreement is engagement, you know.
    Yea, and issuing infractions without explanation is engagement too I guess? Oh wait, no, its reaction, not engagement!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭glic71rods46t0


    FYP
    Withdraw that and try to engage in adult discussion if possible please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    Withdraw that and try to engage in adult discussion if possible please

    Adult discussion usually involves addressing the points being made. Would you like to discuss the topic? Because I'm more than happy to, if you actually engage with what people are saying on here. If you're just going to be a broken record and not actually have an adult discussion, then it's a bit pointless to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    There is only one place I would agree with the OP on this; the bus stop on Suffolk street, any time I find myself waiting for a bus there there's always two young ones wearing the face off each other. I'm fairly sure it's not always the same ones, must be some new kink...

    But other than that, sorry OP, you're on your own. Maybe they just attract your attention more so than their straight counterparts?

    I was going to argue it's the opposite but there are more straight people than gay, proportions may be the same.


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