50 thousand dole scroungers?

davet82

ok there is about 450,000 people unemployed people in the country now, in 2006 there were about 150,000 unemployed so would i be wrong in saying that there are about 300,000 people genuinely unemployed now? (no brainer)

so who were these 150,000 people when things were good? Are these the career scroungers we see people talking about in many posts on boards? I know no country has ever achieved nearly full employment as far as i'm aware, so lets say 2/3's of the were genuine between jobs that would still leave about 50 thousand people with no job. Is it possible we have 50k of career scroungers on our social protection bill? Or there is just never enough jobs for a country our size?


This is all abit what if, but how many people are taking the piss? Is it a small minority or is it the tens of thousands!!

chin_grin

After Hours? Unemployment thread?

Yeah, this should go well.

wes

I am sure the banker scoungers probably cost us more than those 50,000 .

John Doe1

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

stovelid

I scratched my arse just there and my finger is smelly.

Leo Dowling

Floating in the summer sky?

MickySticks

It's 2:45 pm OP why aren't you in work?

stateofflux

phew!, for a minute there i thought this was ANOTHER dole thread...wait a minute..............

Underdraft

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRA_IU13pee8K2u2ZDUPQahgVds8bwOwHT1wQR5MokVR3I0IP17mdugU3e2

mmmm, diacetylilicous.

micropig

Well I used to run Anglo Irish bank.............now I just play golf??

davet82

MickySticks wrote: »

It's 2:45 pm OP why aren't you in work?

Took the day off mate

Leo Dowling

micropig wrote: »

Well I used to run Anglo Irish bank.............now I just play golf??

Here's a billion euro bonus anyways you cheeky scamp you.

MickySticks

davet82 wrote: »

Took the day off mate

Pffffttt, no wonder the country's fecked.

micropig

Leo Dowling wrote: »

Here's a billion euro bonus anyways you cheeky scamp you.

Why thanks and a billion for yourself sir:D

pwurple

There will always be people who are in between jobs for a few months.

There are also some people who are plain unemployable for various reasons.

Logical Fallacy

davet82 wrote: »

ok there is about 450,000 people unemployed people in the country now, in 2006 there were about 150,000 unemployed so would i be wrong in saying that there are about 300,000 people genuinely unemployed now? (no brainer)

so who were these 150,000 people when things were good? Are these the career scroungers we see people talking about in many posts on boards? I know no country has ever achieved nearly full employment as far as i'm aware, so lets say 2/3's of the were genuine between jobs that would still leave about 50 thousand people with no job. Is it possible we have 50k of career scroungers on our social protection bill? Or there is just never enough jobs for a country our size?


This is all abit what if, but how many people are taking the piss? Is it a small minority or is it the tens of thousands!!

Every possible iteration of a dole thread has been done.

Can we just start straight up pulling the piss in these threads from now on? It's the only way they might offer something good to AH.

Doc Ruby

davet82 wrote: »

s it a small minority or is it the tens of thousands!!

Tens of thousands is a small minority. Long term unemployment during the boom was around 1-2%, and that includes those on disability. The actual number of lazy wasters is vanishingly small I would say.

JustAddWater

davet82 wrote: »

MickySticks wrote: »

It's 2:45 pm OP why aren't you in work?

Took the day off mate

To calculate the number of dole scroungers!?

Bit much....

Cee-Jay-Cee

John Doe1 wrote: »

The sun beams down on a brand new day
No more welfare tax to pay
Unsightly slums gone up in flashing light
Jobless millions whisked away
At last we have more room to play
All systems go to kill the poor tonight

Gonna
Kill kill kill kill Kill the poor:Tonight

Jello for Taoiseach! He'd soon clear up the mess!

micropig

JustAddWater wrote: »

To calculate the number of dole scroungers!?

Bit much....

It's ok, here's a billion for researching such an important issue and bringing it to AH:D

Just like the good old days!

Leo Dowling

I herd da ppl on da dole hav hooks 4 hands and eat chocol8 covered suasages.

c_man

How much money could we raise if we forced the 450,000 to each sell one kidney?

If that goes well then we can harvest the rest of their organs.

mikemac1

If Dev could figure out to make money off dole threads the national debt would be sorted by now

Start a taxi driver thread please OP
We've not had one for a while

CamperMan

MickySticks wrote: »

It's 2:45 pm OP why aren't you in work?

he probably is in work misappropriating company time...:mad:

lastlaugh

davet82 wrote: »

ok there is about 450,000 people unemployed people in the country now, in 2006 there were about 150,000 unemployed so would i be wrong in saying that there are about 300,000 people genuinely unemployed now? (no brainer)

so who were these 150,000 people when things were good? Are these the career scroungers we see people talking about in many posts on boards? I know no country has ever achieved nearly full employment as far as i'm aware, so lets say 2/3's of the were genuine between jobs that would still leave about 50 thousand people with no job. Is it possible we have 50k of career scroungers on our social protection bill? Or there is just never enough jobs for a country our size?


This is all abit what if, but how many people are taking the piss? Is it a small minority or is it the tens of thousands!!

According to the latest figures I've just pulled from my arse, 64% of those 150,000 are Travellers and Eastern Europeans (mainly Roma) who claim fraudulently several times in different names so the actual number on the dole is a lot less and I blame Fianna Fail the shower of bastids they've ruined this country and did you mention the HouseHold charge? Yeah well don't because I am absolutely enraged over that aswell.

thebigbiffo

hard to believe i know - but there are dole scroungers out there alright. almost definitely. i think. ok it's possible. jaysus i dont know actually.

my head hurts.

Temptamperu

Its f**king ridiculous, im working five days a week and getting the dole but i can only afford one holiday this year.

Jesus Shaves

davet82 wrote: »

Took the day off mate

You taking the day off work means revenue will receive less taxes this month.
And you have the cheek to blame people like me who are scrounging on the dole!

Well i NEVER:mad:

whatsamsn

LastLaugh made a point :pac:

Because if the 2006 dole figures are correct. You have to consider the eastern euopeans, romanians, africans that were/are? scamming the welfare system (and no i am not a racist)

Sure with the ash clouds cancelling flights in 2010. The social welfare reported that 3,000+ people failed to sign in for that month. Obvious 'welfare tourists' as they call them.

Eric Cartman

the fact ireland has pubs open before lunchtime and our heroin problem proves that we have a lot of dole scroungers

stovelid

Eric Cartman wrote: »

ireland has pubs open before lunchtime

For shift workers and tourists maybe?

Executive Steve

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the fact ireland has pubs open before lunchtime and our heroin problem proves that we have a lot of dole scroungers

Lol, last thread I opened on this board five minutes ago had you giving out about the lack of free market capitalism in this country, and here you are complaining about markets?

Jesus Shaves

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the fact ireland has pubs open before lunchtime and our heroin problem proves that we have a lot of dole scroungers

hahahahaha, what a statement:rolleyes:

patwicklow

micropig wrote: »

Well I used to run Anglo Irish bank.............now I just play golf??

ah hi Sean now about that loan you were gonna give me...

Benny_Cake

If someone was to go out and shoot 50000 random people in the face would that make you happy OP?

Benny_Cake

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the fact ireland has pubs open before lunchtime and our heroin problem proves that we have a lot of dole scroungers

I'm surprised you have a problem with pubs opening before lunchtime, didn't you identify allowing off-licences to open 24 hours a day as a potential solution to getting us out of the recession?

mattjack

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the fact ireland has pubs open before lunchtime and our heroin problem proves that we have a lot of dole scroungers

450,000 junkies in pubs before lunchtime.

SHOVELLER

Whatever about scroungers I would estimate the number of unemployable would be in the high 5 figures.

token101

stovelid wrote: »

For shift workers and tourists maybe?

Jesus, bit Celtic Tiger isn't it? Mr opulence going to the pub before work! La Dee Da! Few tinnies of Dutch before a shift would cost you half the price.

token101

Benny_Cake wrote: »

I'm surprised you have a problem with pubs opening before lunchtime, didn't you identify allowing off-licences to open 24 hours a day as a potential solution to getting us out of the recession?

Great idea. It's stupid the government can dictate what times you can do stuff. If you can buy fags at 4am you should be able to buy booze.

Eric Cartman

Benny_Cake wrote: »

I'm surprised you have a problem with pubs opening before lunchtime, didn't you identify allowing off-licences to open 24 hours a day as a potential solution to getting us out of the recession?

i dont have a problem with pubs being open before lunch, im just using it as evidence that ireland definitley has dole scroungers, if there wasnt a market, the pub wouldnt be open

Benny_Cake

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Benny_Cake wrote: »

I'm surprised you have a problem with pubs opening before lunchtime, didn't you identify allowing off-licences to open 24 hours a day as a potential solution to getting us out of the recession?

i dont have a problem with pubs being open before lunch, im just using it as evidence that ireland definitley has dole scroungers, if there wasnt a market, the pub wouldnt be open

That proves nothing - why would you assume that people in bars before lunch are "dole scroungers". They could be tourists, shift workers, or simply on a day off. A lot of pubs don't bother opening until lunchtime or later afternoon outside the cities now, so if there is a market, it's a pretty small one.

kevmol88

The rich have convinced the middle class to blame dutch gold guy. The oldest trick in the book works again.

starviewadams

Terrible Joe,all them dole scroungers ruining our econmomy,the gall on them,some of them are even African,and they get 36 free prams and 6 tonne of cheese a month Joe,I heard that from my friends sister's mates cousin Joe so it's definitelt true,layabouts the lot of them,should be made to wipe us,who are paying their wages,arses Joe,on a daily basis too Joe.

davet82

Benny_Cake wrote: »

If someone was to go out and shoot 50000 random people in the face would that make you happy OP?

just shooting you in the face would make me happy



seriously though i dont really have a problem with the dole scoungers really, sounds like a pretty miserable existance to me anyways.


I was just wondering is it really the epidemic people make out as on many posts on boards. Like a previous poster said 'i pulled some statsitcs out of me arse' there could be 500 or 50k (was a little **** stirring i admit) but ya have to start a thread with a little controversy



anyways sorry i started another dole thread, apologies, maybe a dole forum should be created, anyone?

Jesus Shaves

davet82 wrote: »

anyways sorry i started another dole thread, apologies, maybe a dole forum should be created, anyone?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=861

davet82

darokane wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?forumid=861:D

oooopppppppppps

starbelgrade

davet82 wrote: »

Are these the career scroungers we see people talking about in many posts on boards?

What about people looking to scrounge money off the state to pay for their houses?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74624189

homerjay2005

wes wrote: »

I am sure the banker scoungers probably cost us more than those 50,000 .

wanna bet? those 50k (and its probably more to be honest) cost us about 2.4billion a year.

multiply that by their lifetime on the dole, the taxes they are not paying and the other benifits that they get for free and you want be long making up our banking hole.

we are having a banking crisis every 3 or 4 years due to our social budget, yet people keep ignoring this.

davet82

starbelgrade wrote: »

What about people looking to scrounge money off the state to pay for their houses?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74624189

what an idiot, did you even read that thread? A loan off the council which is paid back with interest as a backup plan in case i dont get a approval off a bank, which i did by the way, isnt scrounging

Father Damo

lastlaugh wrote: »

According to the latest figures I've just pulled from my arse, 64% of those 150,000 are Travellers and Eastern Europeans (mainly Roma) who claim fraudulently several times in different names

With a traveller population of around 30 odd thousand, and about 90% of the adults on the dole during the boom, with some undoubtedtly making multiple claims under the identities of deceased/ emigrated relatives of around the same age, your random statistics actually arent massively off the mark.

64% would be 80,000 odd.

Roughly 20,000 of these being unemployed adult travellers.

A significant percentage of them making multiple claims.

Classic :pac: Left wing "pulled out of my arse" piss take turns out more truthful than you would imagine.