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FeelTheBern

Dozer1 wrote: »

I've a 28mth old lim heifer I wasn't planning on selling until October as the rest of her bunch are a good bit younger. She's looking a bit fat to me the last while, I'd very rarely finish any animals but is she near finished and would it be worth getting her to the factory rather than holding her for the mart later in the year

Wouldn't be an expert but had few LM x heifers for factory in last few weeks and going by them I think she's well fit and you'd want to be sending her to factory sooner rather than later in case she gets over fat - looks like she could be pushing on towards that already.

Wigster

What is the penalty for over fat?

Cavanjack

Wigster wrote: »

What is the penalty for over fat?

Depends on conformation. Google qps grid and You'll find it.
That lassie is probably an r+ so if she's over fat she would be docked 18c a kg. If she's a u- then 12c. The worse the grade the more your penalised for over fat.

Bigbird1

Was quoted 3.85 and 3.95 for bullocks and heifers next week. Long way back from 4.20 just a few weeks ago.

MonFarmer15

New to this finishing lark, would this fella be considered ready?

Danzy

MonFarmer15 wrote: »

New to this finishing lark, would this fella be considered ready?

I think he could go a good bit more, it will take a lot to have him go over fat given his breed.

In my opinion, if you sold him to the factory now, you'd be leaving money out of your pocket. Whether he is 30 months or not soon, I did the same last fall and regretted it.

He should be able to put up a good bit of weight yet but I'm just in the year ahead of you in this School.

Take it as one man's opinion.

pedigree 6

MonFarmer15 wrote: »

New to this finishing lark, would this fella be considered ready?

Someone has to be the devil's advocate and I hope you take this as constructive criticism.

But what the hell are you grazing?
You'll never get an animal to fatten on that.

There's no feed value let alone feed to fatten on in that growth stage of grass.
You need grass for fattening to just have 3 leaves and no dead leaves below those 3 leaves and by that I mean no stem.

Best thing you can do with that is cut it and save it for the winter and graze the aftergrass.

whelan2

So p6 is the animal fit for killing. He didnt post the photo to get slammed on his grazing techniques:rolleyes:

Danzy

whelan2 wrote: »

So p6 is the animal fit for killing. He didnt post the photo to get slammed on his grazing techniques:rolleyes:

No but if he is a lad new to the game, then something that is important to finishing should be pointed out.

Ways and means of doing that.

whelan2

Fair enough, but some of us dont have the best land in the country to work with. We do the best with what we have.

pedigree 6

whelan2 wrote: »

So p6 is the animal fit for killing. He didnt post the photo to get slammed on his grazing techniques:rolleyes:

No it's not but if we are all nicey nicey and thank each others posts for the sake of it, we learn nothing.

I'm not here to make friends.;)

Danzy

whelan2 wrote: »

Fair enough, but some of us dont have the best land in the country to work with. We do the best with what we have.

For a new lad at the game you would have had some education in grass management this year, in many parts it got out of control and a man can find he is chasing his tail for months after. .

If you can get the finishers on to leafy grass then do so Mon.

If you can pick that up, then it might be an option.

Give them a bit of ration as well if u can.

pedigree 6

whelan2 wrote: »

Fair enough, but some of us dont have the best land in the country to work with. We do the best with what we have.

Who's we?

More of that populist make friends with me nonsense.

There's an awful lot of terrible farmers out there who given a silk purse would make a sow's ear out of it and you know it.

We. We me hole.

Right I'm off for a break.

Danzy

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Who's we?

More of that populist make friends with me nonsense.

There's an awful lot of terrible farmers out there who given a silk purse would make a sow's ear out of it and you know it.

We. We me hole.

Right I'm off for a break.

You just had you dinner ffs.

Don't forget that you too once upon a time did not know everything about this craic.

pedigree 6

Danzy wrote: »

You just had you dinner ffs.

Don't forget that you too once upon a time did not know everything about this craic.

You were agreeing with me before.

If I did something wrong I'd always like to be told rather than just whinge about stuff.

We are here to learn from others are we not?

I take back my original post then.
The op has a wonderful animal and wonderful pasture.

I also note there's been no complaints from the op.

MonFarmer15

Thanks lads!

The pic was taken a week ago and it has since been cut. Its just a rough area at the bottom the field I let them have access to.
They are on better grass at the minute with a good chunk of after grass, that is coming along nicely, to follow. I'll take a few pics this evening!

Danzy

pedigree 6 wrote: »

You were agreeing with me before.

If I did something wrong I'd always like to be told rather than just whinge about stuff.

We are here to learn from others are we not?

I take back my original post then.
The op has a wonderful animal and wonderful pasture.

I also note there's been no complaints from the op.

Take it easy. I'm not disagreeing with you.

There was meant to be a wink symbol, showing it was a gentle ribbing.

Danzy

MonFarmer15 wrote: »

Thanks lads!

The pic was taken a week ago and it has since been cut. Its just a rough area at the bottom the field I let them have access to.
They are on better grass at the minute with a good chunk of after grass, that is coming along nicely, to follow. I'll take a few pics this evening!

and there was peace in the valley once more.

What ration are you giving them.

MonFarmer15

Corby Rock
Supreme Beef

Protein: 16%
Oil and Fats: 5.4%
Fibre: 9.4%
Ash: 7.5%

whelan2

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Who's we?

More of that populist make friends with me nonsense.

There's an awful lot of terrible farmers out there who given a silk purse would make a sow's ear out of it and you know it.

We. We me hole.

Right I'm off for a break.

Aye indeed.....whatever you think yourself:cool:

blue5000

MOD note; Ok folks, back on topic please, beef price, try and keep the personal stuff out of it.

FarmerDougal

MonFarmer15 wrote: »

Corby Rock
Supreme Beef

Protein: 16%
Oil and Fats: 5.4%
Fibre: 9.4%
Ash: 7.5%

How many kegs a day is he getting?

MonFarmer15

2.5

Bass Reeves

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Someone has to be the devil's advocate and I hope you take this as constructive criticism.

But what the hell are you grazing?
You'll never get an animal to fatten on that.

There's no feed value let alone feed to fatten on in that growth stage of grass.
You need grass for fattening to just have 3 leaves and no dead leaves below those 3 leaves and by that I mean no stem.

Best thing you can do with that is cut it and save it for the winter and graze the aftergrass.

Get caught now and again with this type of grass during the summer. In beef no point in feeding ration to put weight on during the summer so watching grass is abit different to cows where you can afford to supplement and get paid for it.

With this type of grass I pre mow it for cattle. In the present type of weather you can pre mow 3-4 days grazing. If very hot weather and long days you would want to limit it to 1-2 days at most. I did it ths summer in late june waiting for after grass. I was amazed in the difference in thrive between mowing and grazing. With pre mowing intake is huge and no waste compared to tryong to graze it. As well you will have to top it anyway.

Danzy

When do you start giving your bullocks ration Bass,

Willfarman

Quotes back this morning I'm told. 3.85. That blue bullock isn't fit as others have said. The grass isn't ideal but not that bad. The trick with pasture like that is let them cherry pick the best out of it and move on but don't force them to clean it out.. use dry cows dry ewes or the topper.

Cavanjack

MonFarmer15 wrote: »

2.5

He's not fit yet. What age is he?

FarmerDougal

MonFarmer15 wrote: »

2.5

No matter how good the grass I'd build him up to 5kg min asap and he should have flesh enough in 3-4 weeks...blues are very lean. U can see the cod has not filled out yet and no flesh around tail head..best of luck and let us know what he kills out

Bass Reeves

Danzy wrote: »

When do you start giving your bullocks ration Bass,

I been feeding bullocks since late April first lot went the 3 week in June( a F@@king week to late). I have exited winter finishing and bulls. I run cattle in two batches stores( yearling and 2 year olds) and a finishing bunch getting 3ish kgs of a Barley/maize/hulls mix. It is costing 215/ ton in the bin. Some cattle will get 8-10 weeks but some only 4-6 weeks. As they come fit they are killed. Any time a friesian is hitting 1300 euro or over he leaving a right nice twist.

MonFarmer15

He just turned 30 months yesterday