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Bass Reeves

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Got cheque back. Ave weight 318kg ave price €3.98 ave, ages from 23/29mts and 25/26mts for the 9 including all deductions and bonus. All dairy bred stock. 1SIX R=, 1LMX R-, 1HEX O+ , 2HEX O=, 4HEX O-. All grading fat score of 3.
Wont be in too much of a hurry to push young cattle for the winter again. ☺

Willfarman wrote: »

We're the o- Herefords as bad as that? It's a ffer that qa and breed bonus is gone too..

Its becoming an issue with these bonus's. The AIBP factory's are now staring to insist that breed bonus cattle are killed on a specific day a week. This is bringing two issue first if you have other cattle that breed bonus cattle these may have to be killed on a different day. The other isue that it may cause is a tweak in the machine means that they do not have to pay the bonus on a lot of cattle this stops the issue of quota's

Another factor is are cuts from cattle that are not paid the bonus being sold as AA or Hereford prime. The big demand is for steaks and burgers. Roast cuts,mince etc would not be in the same demand. I am really getting suspicious but then again maybe I am paranoid

Never wrestle with pigs

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Another factor is are cuts from cattle that are not paid the bonus being sold as AA or Hereford prime. The big demand is for steaks and burgers. Roast cuts,mince etc would not be in the same demand. I am really getting suspicious but then again maybe I am paranoid

Yes they are in most cases except burst bellys or bruised cattle. They go to the same boning line and into the same boxes. Some young bulls and cows the same. Hex the same. Some cases like Aldi Lidl will only take a certain weight and fat score but not too many.

Killing on the same day is more got to do with logistics than grading but we all know different factory's get different grades. The dep are starting to clamp down on this a bit. The more that companies about bad grades in these places the better.

Cavanjack

Willfarman wrote: »

We're the o- Herefords as bad as that? It's a ffer that qa and breed bonus is gone too..

Be as well off with a good friesian as herefords or AA. You have to pay a premium to buy them then they end up killing out light and missing the bonus.

Base price

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Its becoming an issue with these bonus's. The AIBP factory's are now staring to insist that breed bonus cattle are killed on a specific day a week. This is bringing two issue first if you have other cattle that breed bonus cattle these may have to be killed on a different day. The other isue that it may cause is a tweak in the machine means that they do not have to pay the bonus on a lot of cattle this stops the issue of quota's

Another factor is are cuts from cattle that are not paid the bonus being sold as AA or Hereford prime. The big demand is for steaks and burgers. Roast cuts,mince etc would not be in the same demand. I am really getting suspicious but then again maybe I am paranoid

Talking with a neighbour the other day who rears a few HEx from calves to slaughter. He was telling me that he has to inform the factory how many he is rearing/feeding and tell them now when they will be fit for slaughter later in the year - sorta like booking them in advance by 6 months

CloughCasey1

Cavanjack wrote: »

Be as well off with a good friesian as herefords or AA. You have to pay a premium to buy them then they end up killing out light and missing the bonus.

A fr that O- 3- will kill out nearly as good as a hex O-3-. He will cost 150-200 cheaper as a calf or a weanling. Ya need to be getting into O+ and Rs to get any benefit out of the bonus. But that takes age and age brings 4+ fat score so there is no margin for error. Dont get me wrong i did ok out of them they all left 490 ave but if id let them out to graze end of feb and leave them until the youngest was 26mts off grass in June.

Base price

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

A fr that O- 3- will kill out nearly as good as a hex O-3-. He will cost 150-200 cheaper as a calf or a weanling. Ya need to be getting into O+ and Rs to get any benefit out of the bonus. But that takes age and age brings 4+ fat score so there is no margin for error. Dont get me wrong i did ok out of them they all left 490 ave but if id let them out to graze end of feb and leave them until the youngest was 26mts off grass in June.

IMO takes a fair bit of feeding/management to get a FR into a 3 and like you said about HEx there is no margin for error.

whelan2

Sent a free Martin Angus heifer to factory last week. R4 284kg @€;4.15 =€1181 in my dad's herd so not quality assured

The part time boy

whelan2 wrote: »

Sent a free Martin Angus heifer to factory last week. R4 284kg @€;4.15 =€1181 in my dad's herd so not quality assured

Did it say how much the quality assurance was worth ?

whelan2

The part time boy wrote: »

Did it say how much the quality assurance was worth ?

No .

Bass Reeves

The part time boy wrote: »

Did it say how much the quality assurance was worth ?

QA is 12c/kg which come to 34 euro at present if in AA scheme they are paying another 15c/kg on top of that or 42 euro. You cannot enter AA scheme without QA. There is a flat 5/head deduction on AA cattle above normal deductions so after deductions 71 euro

whelan2

He also sent a young bull, aax, lunatic, we decided when we housed him last backend he would never see grass again. o3 249.9 kg 3.80/kg = 949.62, was one dangerous ****

Cavanjack

Anyone know what factories are paying the big flat price for friesian steers that the journal speaks off? They were on about it last week too.

blue5000

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone know what factories are paying the big flat price for friesian steers that the journal speaks off? They were on about it last week too.

No idea where they get their quotes from. Maybe they're trying to talk up the beef price now that they're in it in a big way:P

QA1

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone know what factories are paying the big flat price for friesian steers that the journal speaks off? They were on about it last week too.

Ballyhanius must be around 4 flat age moves qa important

Cavanjack

QA1 wrote: »

Ballyhanius must be around 4 flat age moves qa important

For friesians?

sonnybill

i've a big MO X CH heifer here to get killed off of grass as not suitable for keeping.. she will be 30months 19 july.. she be a good R=, no QA here so no 12c but over 30 mts its cow beef price regardless?!

Danzy

sonnybill wrote: »

i've a big MO X CH heifer here to get killed off of grass as not suitable for keeping.. she will be 30months 19 july.. she be a good R=, no QA here so no 12c but over 30 mts its cow beef price regardless?!

No it should be regular Heifer price, that said it can change and vary from factory to factory at times but there should be no change.

I've sold them over 30 months and had full heifer price, maybe there are other factors applying to you that might change things.

whelan2

Danzy wrote: »

No it should be regular Heifer price, that said it can change and vary from factory to factory at times but there should be no change.

I've sold them over 30 months and had full heifer price, maybe there are other factors applying to you that might change things.

36 months in Duleek

Bass Reeves

All factories pay npormal base price until 36 months. Over 30 months QA not paid. Above 36 months some factories operate a 20c/kg penelty. Cow price is only an issue if calf registered to her gennerally. Biggest issue is no QA for a single animal like that they might be a 20-40c/kg penelty for no QA. However cattle are tight at present and you may not be penalized that hard. Try a fewer of the smaller abbatoir type processors. Make sure you have negotiated a base price before you send her anywhere and what penelty's if any apply

restive

Phoned Ballyhaunis looking to kill overage steers. They quoted me €4:05. With no cuts for over 30 or 36 months. Anyone got any better quotes? Kepak?

Muckit

Will u get the 12c Bord Bia? That price is it flat rate or on the grid? Sorry for all questions but have OA heifer to go myself.

Something that we should all be conscious of is that even though they talk about the glut of all these dairy bred animals, the overall tonnage of beef is down. Why? Carcase size. Figures and stats can be peddled to scaremonger.

restive

On the Grid. No I will not get the 12c Bord Bia.

Bass Reeves

restive wrote: »

Phoned Ballyhaunis looking to kill overage steers. They quoted me €4:05. With no cuts for over 30 or 36 months. Anyone got any better quotes? Kepak?

According to the Indo today Factory's are trying to hold the base at 4.05 for steers. They are throwing in transport costs to secure some cattle. What is the age spread on them and what amount over 36 months. A lot will depend on carcass weight and grades if they are to go further I imagine.

restive

Bass Reeves wrote:

According to the Indo today Factory's are trying to hold the base at 4.05 for steers. They are throwing in transport costs to secure some cattle. What is the age spread on them and what amount over 36 months. A lot will depend on carcass weight and grades if they are to go further I imagine.

2 are 34 months 2 35 months & one 37 months.

restive

Kepak offering 4.10 for under 36 months 4.05 for over 36 months provided not too heavy.
Also the are able to kill them tomorrow.

Mooooo

What are cull cows making, fr?

cute geoge

Cows o's and p's are making €3.50 flat .
Imo i can not see them rising much more .

Mooooo

cute geoge wrote: »

Cows o's and p's are making €3.50 flat .
Imo i can not see them rising much more .

Do you reckon they'll stay at that for a bit?

Pidae.m

No the steam is gone out the cow trade down here plenty of them round now.

Mooooo wrote: »

Do you reckon they'll stay at that for a bit?

tanko

I don't know about dairy cows but good continental cows are making €1.90-€2.00/kg this week around here in the marts.