800,000 Viagra pills paid for last year by Taxpayer for Medical Card Holders.

A2LUE42

Just heard that on Newstalk, Surely I didn't hear correctly

Mr Benevolent

At last the gubberment is giving people pleasure. Anyway, it's a drug, it has a use and floppiness is a recognised medical condition. What's the problem?

Attabear

A2LUE42 wrote: »

Just heard that on Newstalk, Surely I didn't hear correctly

That was just for one bloke in the midlands.

starbelgrade

It's all part of Fianna Fails' erection promises.

Well.

That's a hard fact to swallow.

Gareth2011

Some people are really hard up.

RachaelVO

Hope they can all stand up and be counted

SafeSurfer

The government has been screwing us for years, its only fair they should facilitate us screwing each other.

smash

It's not only used to give people the horn you know!

I know a girl who's on a Viagra prescription to keep basically keep blood flow to her bits following complications after childbirth.

lemme

You'll have medical card holders cuming on here saying they are too hard-up to take their hands out of their pockets and pay for viagra themselves.

jackal

The Government really has a hard-on for people on the dole.

Warper

What about Cialis, is that included?

Approx cost per tablet = €15, Max of 4 per person per month. So basically a person can get €60 worth every month which equates to €720. The amount of people doing this is ridiculous. Highlights the abuse of the medical card system in Ireland. I know of people that get drugs on the card to sell to people without a card.

Chuck Stone

< ERECTION JOKE HERE >

Seachmall

Isn't it a prescription drug?

If so, one could assume it is being prescribed by a qualified doctor.

And one could thus infer it is for medicinal reasons.

Should we discuss how many medical card holders are receiving antibiotics? Or does that not conjure up a gross enough image?

Chuck Stone

Warper wrote: »

What about Cialis, is that included?

Approx cost per tablet = €15, Max of 4 per person per month. So basically a person can get €60 worth every month which equates to €720. The amount of people doing this is ridiculous. Highlights the abuse of the medical card system in Ireland. I know of people that get drugs on the card to sell to people without a card.

Is Viagra out of patent?

AeoNGriM

Warper wrote: »

What about Cialis, is that included?

Approx cost per tablet = €15, Max of 4 per person per month. So basically a person can get €60 worth every month which equates to €720. The amount of people doing this is ridiculous. Highlights the abuse of the medical card system in Ireland. I know of people that get drugs on the card to sell to people without a card.

So squeal on them then.

xzanti

Gareth2011 wrote: »

Some people are really hard up.

BAH!! damn you!!!!

cml387

Attabear wrote: »

That was just for one bloke in the midlands.

Willie Power?

I Heart Internet

starbelgrade wrote: »

It's all part of Fianna Fails' erection promises.

Brilliant

Think it was a €6 million odd spend according to the radio. To be fair - it is an actual medical condition which (so I hear....) can cause great distress.

The whole drug procurement strategy of the HSE is badly in need of a shake-up alright. We can do better.

Nodin

smash wrote: »

It's not only used to give people the horn you know!

I know a girl who's on a Viagra prescription to keep basically keep blood flow to her bits following complications after childbirth.

....good divine jaysus.....

Them wimmin is awful complicated things.

DrumSteve

Chuck Stone wrote: »

< *INSERT*ERECTION JOKE HERE >

chuckle.

davet82

ah bollix i cant think of a joke

jester77

Viagra today, child benefit tomorrow!

ballsymchugh

Seachmall wrote: »

Isn't it a prescription drug?

If so, one could assume it is being prescribed by a qualified doctor.

And one could thus infer it is for medicinal reasons.

it can be used for the treatment of angina. causes blood vessels to dilate.

Seachmall

davet82 wrote: »

ah bollix i cant think of a joke

Aye, in times like these it can be hard to get the juices flowing.

MagicMarker

Chuck Stone wrote: »

< ERECTION JOKE HERE >

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

seamus

Don't see the problem.

Far better than ramming people full of anti-depressants and valium because they're stressing out about not being able to get a stiffy and their marriage is going down the tubes. If the government can facilitate people getting their jollies, that will serve society's benefit more than anything.

I remember talking a psychiatrist in the pub one night who only took patients on the public health schemes. He was frank, more frank than a psychiatrist should be about his patients. I'll never forget one of the thing he said though: "Most of the people who come into me just need a good ride. Nearly all they talk about when they come in, is sex. If the HSE paid for them to go see a hoor instead of giving me €80/hour, it would sort out all their problems".

starbelgrade

AeoNGriM wrote: »

So squeal on them then.

Squeal like a liddle piggy.

Gareth2011

Watching Top Gear the other week and the boys were in the andies mountains. Jeremy gave them Viagra as it was to get the blood flowing wetc cause they were so high up and the air was very thin. James comes up with " Give me some of that water or im going to have a massive neck"

gbee

It's also a vital life saving drug if one wants to take a jeep over the highest parts of the Andes.

Stark

Seachmall wrote: »

Should we discuss how many medical card holders are receiving antibiotics? Or does that not conjure up a gross enough image?

You can't sell unused antibiotics for €20 a pill.

gbee

Stark wrote: »

You can't sell unused antibiotics for €20 a pill.

How much is it then?

Benny_Cake

Viagra is manufactured in Ireland right? So this is actually causing our GDP to grow (sorry, best I could do). Anyway, it's a recognised medical condition so why wouldn't it be covered?

gosuckonalemon

seamus wrote: »

Don't see the problem.

Far better than ramming people full of anti-depressants and valium because they're stressing out about not being able to get a stiffy and their marriage is going down the tubes. If the government can facilitate people getting their jollies, that will serve society's benefit more than anything.

.

Agree with this. The drug is on Rx and is used to treat a medical condition.

If there are too many being prescribed then that is an issue that has to be brought up with those prescribing, i.e. the Doctors.

Also on both the medical card and Drugs Payments Scheme you are entitled to a maximum of 4 tablets per month.

That means if you suffer from erectile dysfunction/impotence due to depression or stress, and unless you can afford to pay for them privately, you only get to have sex at most 4 times per month.

sparrowcar

Like this comment if this thread makes you horny

Lollers

Attabear wrote: »

That was just for one bloke in the midlands.

I fear for the sheep.

Benny_Cake

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

Agree with this. The drug is on Rx and is used to treat a medical condition.

If there are too many being prescribed then that is an issue that has to be brought up with those prescribing, i.e. the Doctors.

Also on both the medical card and Drugs Payments Scheme you are entitled to a maximum of 4 tablets per month.

That means if you suffer from erectile dysfunction/impotence due to depression or stress, and unless you can afford to pay for them privately, you only get to have sex at most 4 times per month.

Cue a Sunday Independent article on how the "squeezed middle" aren't even getting it once a month, while the welfare spongers are getting laid at the taxpayers expense 4 times a month.

Ellis Dee

The ministers themselves are on Viagra Lite. It's for ****.:):D

Nodin

The statement in question...........

A Clare County Councillor is calling on the HSE to reduce the amount of money it spends on viagra for medical card holders.

€6.3m euro was spent on the erectile dysfunction drug in 2010, an increase of €500,000 over the previous year.

Green Party Councillor Brian Meaney said that given the current economic climate, more curtailments should be put in place to ensure viagra is only administered in genuine cases, and that generic drugs should be favoured over branded versions.

He said a wealthy pensioner had demanded the drug from him during the election campaign.

"I knocked on the door of a house. An elderly gentleman came out, told me he was over 80 years of age and demanded his viagra, because this is an issue I had identified before," he said.

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/councillor-calls-for-reduction-in-state-viagra-payments-537096.html#ixzz1kNfKDBax

Traumadoc

It could be argued that the contracepive pill is prescribed for similar "lifestyle" reasons. It allows women to have recreational rather than procreational sex.

Dare you to suggest that it comes off the medical card schedule!

gosuckonalemon

If someone gets 4 tablets a month per year that's a total of 48 tablets per annum.

800,000/48= 16,666 men prescribed it.

Not a massive number really, when you consider that almost 450,000 people are on anti-depressants.

Nothingbetter2d

A2LUE42 wrote: »

Just heard that on Newstalk, Surely I didn't hear correctly

thats just the tip of the iceberg

how much money goes towards methadone & many forms of sleepers/valium/xanax etc...the junkies take it when they have no money then still go and take heroin too when they do have money.. and thus dont really make an effort to quit

TheZohanS

It's the only stimulus package the government will ever come up with.

TheZohanS

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

thats just the tip of the iceberg

how much money goes towards methadone & many forms of sleepers/valium/xanax etc...the junkies take it when they have no money then still go and take heroin too when they do have money.. and thus dont really make an effort to quit

Nah they don't take heroin with the methadone, they get tested regularly. If they fail the drugs test they get thrown off the methadone program.

I'd rather have a junkie be given free valium and xanex than be strung out annoying people.

gosuckonalemon

TheZohan wrote: »

Nah they don't take heroin with the methadone, they get tested regularly. If they fail the drugs test they get thrown off the methadone program.

I'd rather have a junkie be given free valium and xanex than be strung out annoying people.

I'm afraid your wrong. They are tested less and less due to cutbacks and often bring in urine from other methadone users who are not taking heroin. Hence it is possible to pass the urine test, get their weeks supply of methadone which they can then sell to buy heroin.

Unfortunately this happens alot.

TheZohanS

gosuckonalemon wrote: »

I'm afraid your wrong. They are tested less and less due to cutbacks and often bring in urine from other methadone users who are not taking heroin. Hence it is possible to pass the urine test, get their weeks supply of methadone which they can then sell to buy heroin.

Unfortunately this happens alot.

Where are you getting your information from if you don't mind me asking?

mikemac1

seamus wrote: »

Don't see the problem.

Far better than ramming people full of anti-depressants and valium because they're stressing out about not being able to get a stiffy and their marriage is going down the tubes. If the government can facilitate people getting their jollies, that will serve society's benefit more than anything.

I remember talking a psychiatrist in the pub one night who only took patients on the public health schemes. He was frank, more frank than a psychiatrist should be about his patients. I'll never forget one of the thing he said though: "Most of the people who come into me just need a good ride. Nearly all they talk about when they come in, is sex. If the HSE paid for them to go see a hoor instead of giving me €80/hour, it would sort out all their problems".

This man for Minister for Health

Fear Uladh

mikemac1 wrote: »

This man for Minister for Everything

Fixed.

gbee

Benny_Cake wrote: »

Viagra is manufactured in Ireland right?

Can't confirm, but the facility in Ringaskiddy was shut down [or moved after they failed to get a licence extension on it].

In 1998 15% of Viagra active ingredient [stamping and packaging elsewhere] was produced in Cork, 500 people were employed and contributed €151 million to the Irish economy.

gosuckonalemon

TheZohan wrote: »

Where are you getting your information from if you don't mind me asking?

I dispense methadone daily. The methadone patients tell me all their tricks.

sh1tstirrer

A2LUE42 wrote: »

Just heard that on Newstalk, Surely I didn't hear correctly

Now that is some cock up.