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roundymac · 26-01-2012 12:01pm

Looking at that picture of Youghal it shows what sort of management (mis-management) that CIE/I/E are. It would have only needed a visit from the weed-sprayer once a year and a maintainence van and a small bit of effort on maintaining the stations and you would have basic line structure still in place. Now if you visit you would do well to even find the track bed.

Itssoeasy · 26-01-2012 12:11pm

roundymac · 26-01-2012 12:33pm

Is that one of Irish Shipping's ships that it is being unloaded from, possibly The Pouplar or the Spruance?

who the fug · 26-01-2012 12:44pm

roundymac wrote: »

Is that one of Irish Shipping's ships that it is being unloaded from, possibly The Pouplar or the Spruance?

Looks like it could be either

Irish Spruce

Irish Popular

What is the the engine being unloaded and where would it be coming from, see if I can jog my old fella memory over the weekend

Itssoeasy · 26-01-2012 12:46pm

according to wiki where the image is up on. the loco is 124 being unloaded at north wall in december 1961.

Judgement Day · 26-01-2012 1:38pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/youghaltrainstationaugu.png/

Youghal turntable 1988. A few new boards in the centre is hardly rebuilding it.

You obviously know more than me about it so.

steamengine · 26-01-2012 1:40pm

roundymac wrote: »

Is that one of Irish Shipping's ships that it is being unloaded from, possibly The Pouplar or the Spruance?

who the fug wrote: »

Looks like it could be either

Irish Spruce

Irish Popular

Well spotted, it's one of the two ok - thought that funnel looked familiar. About as far back in time as Freddie on the Wurlitzer in the Savoy !

:D

who the fug · 26-01-2012 2:22pm

steamengine wrote: »

Well spotted, it's one of the two ok - thought that funnel looked familiar. About as far back in time as Freddie on the Wurlitzer in the Savoy ! :D

All credit must go to roundymac as I would't have a clue which ship to start with

Itssoeasy · 26-01-2012 2:27pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

You obviously know more than me about it so.

Why the smart reply ?

corktina · 26-01-2012 2:31pm

a smart reply to a smart reply perhaps?

steamengine · 26-01-2012 2:54pm

corktina wrote: »

what are the people of Youghal (a dying seaside town) like?. They have the makings of a fine heritge railway still in situ and yet they arent kicking and screaming to get it back up and running!

There was an article last year in the Irish Times about Youghal. From reading it, I doubt a heritage railway would be high up on the list of their priorities - but then again who knows ? Link

who the fug · 26-01-2012 3:04pm

roundymac wrote: »

Is that one of Irish Shipping's ships that it is being unloaded from, possibly The Pouplar or the Spruance?

Matter of interest how did you recognize them from that angle

corktina · 26-01-2012 3:08pm

Well I didn't mean as a plaything, I meant as a means to attract tourists into the town, bring in some dosh and at the same time provide a transport link with the City.

It has all the plus-points necessasry....exisitng line as far as Midleton...steam thence to The Beach.

It wont happen in Ireland though, we don't have the same attitude to heritage and volunteering for such projects as they do in the UK

steamengine · 26-01-2012 3:32pm

corktina wrote: »

Well I didn't mean as a plaything, I meant as a means to attract tourists into the town, bring in some dosh and at the same time provide a transport link with the City.

It has all the plus-points necessasry....exisitng line as far as Midleton...steam thence to The Beach.

It wont happen in Ireland though, we don't have the same attitude to heritage and volunteering for such projects as they do in the UK

+1.......with all of what you say - and especially the last paragraph. A heritage railway in the 'Bluebell' sense will never be anything else than a pipe dream or at best a video in a heritage centre , it's a pity but there you go !

roundymac · 26-01-2012 4:14pm

who the fug wrote: »

Matter of interest how did you recognize them from that angle

The funnel and it's markings looked familier. I remember those ships when they used to come into Cork back in the sixties. The Spruance was later lost after grounding on the Quita Suena bank which I think is somewhere off the South American coast.

who the fug · 26-01-2012 5:44pm

roundymac wrote: »

The funnel and it's markings looked familier. I remember those ships when they used to come into Cork back in the sixties. The Spruance was later lost after grounding on the Quita Suena bank which I think is somewhere off the South American coast.

I think they had a run loading cars from Ford to the US for a while circa 1959/1960

Anyway will check the info with my father at the weekend to get more information

Judgement Day · 26-01-2012 7:55pm

steamengine wrote: »

+1.......with all of what you say - and especially the last paragraph. A heritage railway in the 'Bluebell' sense will never be anything else than a pipe dream or at best a video in a heritage centre , it's a pity but there you go !

Been there, got the video and the t-shirt - more than thirty years ago now. There was lots of hot air but no action when a real chance was there to save the line.

Sorry about the British loco but it was in pre-internet days when logos couldn't be so easily lifted from elsewhere.

26-01-2012 10:25pm

roundymac wrote: »

Looking at that picture of Youghal it shows what sort of management (mis-management) that CIE/I/E are. It would have only needed a visit from the weed-sprayer once a year and a maintainence van and a small bit of effort on maintaining the stations and you would have basic line structure still in place. Now if you visit you would do well to even find the track bed.

I totally agree but some track was salvaged from the vicinity of Youghal to repair the Sligo line in the late 1980s.

roundymac · 27-01-2012 4:36pm

who the fug wrote: »

I think they had a run loading cars from Ford to the US for a while circa 1959/1960

Anyway will check the info with my father at the weekend to get more information

If you visit Irish Ships.com, click on Irish Shipping crews and ships, then click on Irish Elm, you'll see pictures of cars and trucks being carried from Japan to USA and europe.

who the fug · 29-01-2012 6:22pm

roundymac wrote: »

If you visit Irish Ships.com, click on Irish Shipping crews and ships, then click on Irish Elm, you'll see pictures of cars and trucks being carried from Japan to USA and europe.

Showed the picture to my father, he reckons it was the Irish Popular, as it was the only time he saw a 100 ton lift

He was 2nd mate at the time, so will check his discharge book later to confirm the dates match

Which Irish Elm

dowlingm · 29-01-2012 6:29pm

roundymac wrote: »

Looking at that picture of Youghal it shows what sort of management (mis-management) that CIE/I/E are. It would have only needed a visit from the weed-sprayer once a year and a maintainence van and a small bit of effort on maintaining the stations and you would have basic line structure still in place. Now if you visit you would do well to even find the track bed.

I know they shouldn't have to, but it would be nice if Youghal people took their strimmers and shovels down to the station and cleaned it up without asking for permission. The reality is that self-help is going to be the main way things get done in Ireland over the next decade. The downside is that IE's principal objection would be insurance related, and the greed shown by some who scammed their way through the tiger years gives them excuse.

roundymac · 29-01-2012 10:15pm

who the fug wrote: »

Showed the picture to my father, he reckons it was the Irish Popular, as it was the only time he saw a 100 ton lift

He was 2nd mate at the time, so will check his discharge book later to confirm the dates match

Which Irish Elm

The one that was built at Verolme Cork in 1968.

who the fug · 30-01-2012 9:45am

roundymac wrote: »

The one that was built at Verolme Cork in 1968.

They actually tried shipping from Fords in Cork to the US about 1960 , but didn't pan out

Always remember their last one launching herself

roundymac · 30-01-2012 12:01pm

The Irish Spruce? I was reading the full story of her and the financial background to her building, it makes very interesting reading, I'm trying to find where I read it, I will post up a link if I can find it.

roundymac · 02-02-2012 3:20pm

who the fug wrote: »

Showed the picture to my father, he reckons it was the Irish Popular, as it was the only time he saw a 100 ton lift

He was 2nd mate at the time, so will check his discharge book later to confirm the dates match

Which Irish Elm

Finally found the link.
http://www.irishships.com/irish_elm.html

Judgement Day · 03-02-2012 10:54pm

From eBay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Last-Tram-Howth-Dublin-Irish-Photo-Picture-/190540583932?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d1a93fc#ht_928wt_952 tonight - enough to make a grown man cry.

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One of the last Hill of Howth trams on the 30th May 1958.

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