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Whats the Point of Going To Work

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  • 16-01-2012 6:05pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4


    With the crazy price of fuel is it worth going to work on an average wage. Its costing me 70 euros a week just to get to work, plus car tax and insurance. Also ware and tare on my Car. I am at the point of working does not pay over the dole. Time to take to the streets Folks.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    With the crazy price of fuel is it worth going to work on an average wage. Its costing me 70 euros a week just to get to work, plus car tax and insurance. Also ware and tare on my Car. I am at the point of working does not pay over the dole. Time to take to the streets Folks.

    Minimum wage easily covers this cost.
    Your on your own.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Maybe look into moving closer to work, or try to get work closer to home...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭bigroad


    Count yourself lucky my diesel costs 110euro a week and toll 20 euro and i earn 9 euro per hour .


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Solutions

    - Get a more economical car
    - Take public transport
    - Cycle 1/2 days
    - Get a job closer to home
    - Move closer to work
    - Ask for a pay rise
    - Get a higher paying job in the same area


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭simit


    I car share with a colleague and it makes a huge difference. Try it if you can.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭nightster1


    With the crazy price of fuel is it worth going to work on an average wage. Its costing me 70 euros a week just to get to work, plus car tax and insurance. Also ware and tare on my Car. I am at the point of working does not pay over the dole. Time to take to the streets Folks.

    They keep turning the screws on wage earners. Sounds like you're reaching tipping point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Minimum wage easily covers this cost.
    Your on your own.

    Yes, minimum wage will cover the transport costs. But it does not cover:

    Rent/Mortgage
    Food
    Clothing
    Minimal entertainment (unless you rob Peter to pay Paul)
    Medical expenses if you do not hold a Medical Card...

    Weekly MW is 337.65 BEFORE deductions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Yes, minimum wage will cover the transport costs. But it does not cover:

    Rent/Mortgage
    Food
    Clothing
    Minimal entertainment (unless you rob Peter to pay Paul)
    Medical expenses if you do not hold a Medical Card...

    Weekly MW is 337.65 BEFORE deductions.

    If your on the min wage then luxuries are sacrificed and those things like clothing, medical expenses, entertainment are one off and should be rationed within your budget.
    Minimum wage in Ireland is 2nd highest in Europe, so their is no excuses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭bluefinger


    If your on the min wage then luxuries are sacrificed and those things like clothing, medical expenses, entertainment are one off and should be rationed within your budget.
    Minimum wage in Ireland is 2nd highest in Europe, so their is no excuses.

    can you explain what you mean by medical expenses being a 'one off'


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,994 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    bluefinger wrote: »
    can you explain what you mean by medical expenses being a 'one off'

    You should have budgeted money aside for them. for example stop going out. there is your money


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,994 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    bluefinger wrote: »
    can you explain what you mean by medical expenses being a 'one off'

    You should have budgeted money aside for them. for example stop going out. there is your money


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    bluefinger wrote: »
    can you explain what you mean by medical expenses being a 'one off'

    Medical expenses,
    get flu, every 3-4 years
    go to doc, get medicine, claim 20% back, rinse and repeat,
    around 70 euro*.8= 56 euro

    get cancer etc,
    once off


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭bluefinger


    Medical expenses,
    get flu, every 3-4 years
    go to doc, get medicine, claim 20% back, rinse and repeat,
    around 70 euro*.8= 56 euro

    get cancer etc,
    once off

    oh that's ok then, i thought you were serious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    If your on the min wage then luxuries are sacrificed and those things like clothing, medical expenses, entertainment are one off and should be rationed within your budget.
    Minimum wage in Ireland is 2nd highest in Europe, so their is no excuses.

    Clothing's a one off???:eek: What do you mean by that? Clothing's not something you buy every week agreed, but clothing does need to be replaced from time to time, does it not?

    How about my medical expenses for example? I need regular medication. How on earth do you pay for that on MW?

    Rent? Well, if you live outside of Dublin, Cork, Galway, then the rent would be manageable - Just. If you happen to live in Dublin, then I'm afraid you'd be stuffed, never mind Cork...

    Of course 'luxuries' (whatever you mean by that) are sacrificed. Talk about stating the bleeding obvious. YOU try living on MW, and then come back and talk to me about it.

    I should also add: Yes, the MW might be the second highest in Europe. But then, the CoL here is one of the highest in Europe! Living here is certainly not cheap!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 jpaulb


    Some of the people who have posted here have no idea what it is like to live on the min wage. The min wage might by high in Ireland but look at the cost of things in Ireland compared to other countries.
    Any one who is driving a distance to work and getting paid the min wage or above it would be better off on the dole when you take into consideration the cost of buying and running a car.
    The majority of people would prefer to work as living on the dole is not easy either. One of my friends has been out of work for a while and they have been called for an interview for a scheme paying €50 a week more than the dole. They will work 35 hours a week for this for over the next 8/9 months. My friend has no intention of going for this as they will not be used a form of cheap labour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭gizmorox


    With the crazy price of fuel is it worth going to work on an average wage. Its costing me 70 euros a week just to get to work, plus car tax and insurance. Also ware and tare on my Car. I am at the point of working does not pay over the dole. Time to take to the streets Folks.

    Totally agree,I'm in a horrible Catch 22 situation,desperately want to work,have qualifications in a job relatively unaffected by the recession so the work's there.
    Problem is I live in a rented 2 bed with my 2 children,14 yr old boy,12 yr old girl,years waiting on social housing which would mean I could support my family without any financial assistance which I so much look forward to,I'm ashamed to say I'm on social welfare,none of my family are,but the horrible reality for me is that even If I worked all the hours in the week I still wouldn't be able to feed,clothe,and keep a roof over our heads,I receive no other money other than welfare and with this we are just getting by.
    This system never even worked to be broken! all I need is a chance:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Pandoras Twist


    Use public transport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    Use public transport.

    Great. If you live in an area with decent transport links....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Clothing's a one off???:eek: What do you mean by that? Clothing's not something you buy every week agreed, but clothing does need to be replaced from time to time, does it not?

    Minimum wage therefore need to sacrifice


    How about my medical expenses for example? I need regular medication. How on earth do you pay for that on MW?
    Medical card

    Rent? Well, if you live outside of Dublin, Cork, Galway, then the rent would be manageable - Just. If you happen to live in Dublin, then I'm afraid you'd be stuffed, never mind Cork...
    Rent allowance

    Of course 'luxuries' (whatever you mean by that) are sacrificed. Talk about stating the bleeding obvious. YOU try living on MW, and then come back and talk to me about it.

    I should also add: Yes, the MW might be the second highest in Europe. But then, the CoL here is one of the highest in Europe! Living here is certainly not cheap!!!

    Need social welfare, then use it, I have no problem with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭shangri la


    bigroad wrote: »
    Count yourself lucky my diesel costs 110euro a week and toll 20 euro and i earn 9 euro per hour .
    working over 15 hours a week (net) to pay for transport to work is crazy especially if you work a standard 38 hour week.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭shangri la


    Yes, minimum wage will cover the transport costs. But it does not cover:

    Rent/Mortgage
    Food
    Clothing
    Minimal entertainment (unless you rob Peter to pay Paul)
    Medical expenses if you do not hold a Medical Card...

    Weekly MW is 337.65 BEFORE deductions.
    compare that to dole of e188, most of the rent paid, medical card, various addons heat and whatever else and you really need to love your minimum wage job.


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭shangri la


    If your on the min wage then luxuries are sacrificed and those things like clothing, medical expenses, entertainment are one off and should be rationed within your budget.
    Minimum wage in Ireland is 2nd highest in Europe, so their is no excuses.
    how does the cost of living compare?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    I earned less than what I would have on the dole and as a self employed worker, I had to pay €600 tax on €3,500 annual take in.
    Leaving me with €2,900 to do me for the year.
    I was starting up a business and had to pay the initial years tax and the following years tax.
    Where is the sense in that.
    Minimum allowance to earn up to the dole without being taxed should be allowed.
    Its a disgrace!


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭shangri la


    shanered wrote: »
    I was starting up a business and had to pay the initial years tax and the following years tax.


    I'm looking into setting up my own business.

    This is due the November of the year after you set up your business?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭shanered


    shangri la wrote: »
    I'm looking into setting up my own business.

    This is due the November of the year after you set up your business?

    October 31st, but yeah thats true.
    Hold onto all the receipts and expenses you can ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭Shane732


    This thread has absolutely nothing to do with taxation.

    I'm moving it to AH.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭120_Minutes


    What's ware and tare?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    With the crazy price of fuel is it worth going to work on an average wage. Its costing me 70 euros a week just to get to work, plus car tax and insurance. Also ware and tare on my Car. I am at the point of working does not pay over the dole. Time to take to the streets Folks.

    Shouldn't the thread title be "what's the point in owning a car?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Welfare is bloody ridiculous at this stage..
    I've a mate who's on social welfare as he lost his job about 2 years ago.....
    Yes he's trying to get back to work but his chances of getting a job which pays more 30k a year with no qualifications is worse than slim to none.
    This week he gave up the cigarettes, smoked 20 a day before that.
    So he's saving money from that, yet he was able to get the nicorrette inhalers free on his medical card saving him about €70 a week....
    It's ****in ridiculous :mad:...how many other people are doing this and screwing the normal joe soap out of proper medical care.
    I was explaining this to him and he still didn't get it....his attitude was that he paid enough tax over the last 16 years to cover him. He just didn't get it that while he was working hard the scroungers were screwing him and the system.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    jpaulb wrote: »
    The majority of people would prefer to work as living on the dole is not easy either. One of my friends has been out of work for a while and they have been called for an interview for a scheme paying €50 a week more than the dole. They will work 35 hours a week for this for over the next 8/9 months. My friend has no intention of going for this as they will not be used a form of cheap labour.


    So I guess the majority of people doesn't include your friend?

    It must be nice for him that tax-payers will continue to fund his morals. I mean, we don't want him to feel like he's being used a cheap labour or anything.

    I have sympathy for people who can't find work - but your friends attitude sums up everything that wrong with this country and the sense of Celtic Tiger entitlement which still seems to prevail.


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