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Sequels: The Good, The Bad, and The Fugly [** NO LISTING **]

  • 10-01-2012 9:28pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,788 ✭✭✭


    What is the worst sequel to a great original movie that you've seen. The sequel can be #2, 3, 4, etc.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."

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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Terminator 3 was pretty dire, but lucky for it Terminator Salvation saved it from being the worst sequel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Harrocks


    Hands down jaws the revenge ie 4.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    Bitch please, Batman & Robin. Pretty much put comic book films into ruin for a while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    One of my favourite films of all time is Get Shorty but its sequel Be Cool is appalling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    The first thing that jumped to mind for me was Robocop 3 (or at least it would have, if such a movie were to have existed) but damn there are a lot of good suggestions here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭leedslad


    Staying Alive rubbish compared to SNF
    Grease 2 a poor follow up


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Deus Ex Machina


    Aliens! Creaky loada bollox!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Highlander 2 and the ones that came after were complete horsesh1t...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Aliens! Creaky loada bollox!

    I'll take it you're joking...

    If not, leave this earth immediately...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭timewilltell


    The Santa Clause 2


    Just can't relive the magic.

    Sigh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Jurassic Park 3
    The Mummy 3
    Alien 3

    Plus the 3rd Omen film with Sam Neill in it- first to films were enjoyable

    seeing a patern here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Blues Brothers 2000 was horrible idea, horribly implemented.

    But the worst sequels are ones that manage to not only offer nothing worthwhile themselves but actually take away from the previous movies. Like in one of the Scream sequels it's discovered that the 1st's movies killers were actually just puppets for another less interesting killer.

    And with that in mind I have to put forward Star Wars Episode I, II and III (I know they are technically prequels) as the worst. Hey remember all that stuff that Ben said about the past in A New Hope? Well it was all bollix and he now appears to be rather senile in retrospect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    All the final destinations, really liked the first was great fun, it quickly became "look how we kill these kids".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Pirates of The Caribbean. The first movie was great. All others were awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Killgore Trout


    Keyzer wrote: »
    Highlander 2 and the ones that came after were complete horsesh1t...

    There should be only one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    This is an impossible task! So many sequels are now made, I'd say Superman IV - Quest for Peace must be down there, all the money had been spent by the time it was made so its practically a TV movie compared to the previous 3 (and no 3 wasn't much cop) Also you cannot have a character named Nuclear Man played by someone called Mark Pillow. Sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    It annoys me when people say Godfather 3. It really is a great stand alone film. But put it beside the other two and it becomes Daniel Baldwin. (Not to say that Alec and William are..well you know what I mean)

    As far as sequels go...I'm just not a fan but you can't blame hollywood for making them. People will go to see them again as a way of somehow trying to recreate the original viewing experience.

    The fact is, there is no sequel that is superior to the original. You can make arguments for Godfather, Terminator, Aliens...even Superman 2! But...the original created the moulds and, in my opinion, are purer films.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Cars 2 was terrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭doomed


    Oceans 12 - a lazy holiday movie for overpaid stars if ever there was one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    It annoys me when people say Godfather 3. It really is a great stand alone film. But put it beside the other two and it becomes Daniel Baldwin. (Not to say that Alec and William are..well you know what I mean)

    I absolutely agree with you here. I thought The Godfather Pt. 3 was a very good film and didn't deserve all the criticism it got at the time.
    It suffers somewhat in comparison to the other two, but on it's own merits, it's a fine film indeed.

    My vote would go to An American Werewolf in Paris...... the first film is a bona fide classic and one of my favourite films, however the sequel (if you could really call it that) is easily one of the worst films I've ever seen.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Return of the Jedi. I'm sorry but it's true. The first two films are not just great Star Wars films, they are great films generally. Where as Jedi just sucks! Howard Hawks said that a good film has three good scenes and no bad ones, which rules out Jedi. It has three good scenes alright, but bad ones? - it's littered in them. It's only childhood nostalgia that prevents people from dismissing it as the terrible sequel that it is. I loved it when I was younger, but now I find it unwatchable in its entirety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    For me both Highlander (1986) and Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) were very original movies, but the sequels were atrocious.

    They made all the Police Academy sequels look like cinematic masterpieces in comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    Oceans 12 by a country mile for me. Oceans 11 is actually one of my fav films. It's just so effortlessly cool but 12 was painful. It even has taken some of the shine off 11 for me.

    Highlander 2 and Jurassic Park 3 are also right up there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Considering The Exorcist is such a fantastic movie, The Heretic was just appalling and the first one that sprung to mind.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Ive always been morbidly curious to watch S. Darko. I see it's on Netflix. Perhaps some night when I'm feeling particularly masochistic... But if you get into low profile, cynical sequels of films you're in a while new ballpark.

    X Men / Spiderman 3 are not follow ups to great films (although both first sequels are pleasantly competent at worst). However, they blow every single ounce of potential built up. Especially The Last Stand. After waiting two or three years for what was teased as an epic conclusion, we got a damp squib.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭michaelduignan


    Hangover 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭sumsar


    Ive always been morbidly curious to watch S. Darko. I see it's on Netflix. Perhaps some night when I'm feeling particularly masochistic... But if you get into low profile, cynical sequels of films you're in a while new ballpark.

    X Men / Spiderman 3 are not follow ups to great films (although both first sequels are pleasantly competent at worst). However, they blow every single ounce of potential built up. Especially The Last Stand. After waiting two or three years for what was teased as an epic conclusion, we got a damp squib.

    I actually own S.Darko, being a big fan of Donnie Darko I just had to buy it.... I can confirm it is a pile of sh!t but she grew into a fine young lady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Hangover 2?

    I dont think it was worse. It was more the same :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭fealeranger


    The Matrix was fantastic and then they made the second and third RELOADED AND REVOLUTIONS. I nearly cried they were so bad. American Ninja was another they made very bad sequels too. I think bar the Star Wars Empire Strikes back people will find it hard to find a good sequel to anything.
    I forgot the Karate kid sequels and Kickboxer, Bloodsports...............the list is long and terrible.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Both the Jungle Book and Lion King sequels should be indicted for crimes against children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Speed was one of the best action movies of the 1990's. Plenty of thrills, memorable set pieces, good chemistry between the characters, etc.

    Speed 2 was none of the above!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Bitch please, Batman & Robin. Pretty much put comic book films into ruin for a while
    I'm kinda thankful it was a piece of rubbish though because without it we probably wouldn't have the current Batman trilogy.

    Slightly OT but I think Arkham Asylum/Arkham City are also more interesting than the Burton/Schumacher movies. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭e_e


    Battle Royale 2 was a bit rubbish but the antics of Riki Takeuchi kinda made up for it. Kind of a guilty pleasure for me, most ridiculous action movie I've ever seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Kash


    The Matrix sequels - the original was magic, and the rest were seriously disappointing.

    Edit: Ooops, missed the post above saying almost the same thing. Great minds :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭niallon


    Escape From L.A
    John Carpenter showing just how much of a one off all of his best ideas are, this should have never been allowed release, very much tarnishes the great original too unfortunately. This trailer really shows how wrong they got it, completely against the spirit of the first film.



    Also, how the flying f**k has nobody mentioned Kingdom of the Crystal Skull yet?!?!?!?!?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    niallon wrote: »
    Also, how the flying f**k has nobody mentioned Kingdom of the Crystal Skull yet?!?!?!?!?!

    Kingdom of the crystal skull. Unbelievably bad. Harrison ford moves like the old man he is, you could literally hear his joints creaking and groaning. Should've left it alone and leave us with fond memories of the first 3 films when he was the man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    doomed wrote: »
    Oceans 12 - a lazy holiday movie for overpaid stars if ever there was one

    that Julia Roberts pretends to be Julia Roberts is some of the most vomit inducing celebrity injoke stuff ever put in a movie, the only scene of that movie I like is when Vincent Cassell dances across the museum floor, which was quite cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Return of the Jedi. I'm sorry but it's true. The first two films are not just great Star Wars films, they are great films generally. Where as Jedi just sucks! Howard Hawks said that a good film has three good scenes and no bad ones, which rules out Jedi. It has three good scenes alright, but bad ones? - it's littered in them. It's only childhood nostalgia that prevents people from dismissing it as the terrible sequel that it is. I loved it when I was younger, but now I find it unwatchable in its entirety.

    still infinitely more watchable than the prequels. aside from the ewoks I love Jedi, the whole Jabbas palace sequence/sarlacc pit is cool, Vader's redemption is one of the greaetst scenes of the trilogy until they fcuked it up on blu-ray, and its still, almost 30 years later got the best space battle ever put on film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    I'd agree about the Matrix sequels letting it the original down.
    Bitch please, Batman & Robin. Pretty much put comic book films into ruin for a while

    And Batman Forever didn't really help matters... Yes I'm talking about that suit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    Both the Jungle Book and Lion King sequels should be indicted for crimes against children.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    razorblunt wrote: »
    All the final destinations, really liked the first was great fun, it quickly became "look how we kill these kids".
    But 2 and 5 are the best ones!? (Just noticed that the wiki page for Final Destination 1 gives away the great plot twist for 5
    by causally mentioning it's a prequel
    )

    And Halloween 3 is quite good before anyone mentions the generally awful sequels to a great original film.
    krudler wrote: »
    still infinitely more watchable than the prequels. aside from the ewoks I love Jedi, the whole Jabbas palace sequence/sarlacc pit is cool, Vader's redemption is one of the greaetst scenes of the trilogy until they fcuked it up on blu-ray, and its still, almost 30 years later got the best space battle ever put on film.
    Not great by any means but enough good to keep it off of any "worst" list. Luke and Vader clashing lightsabers still gives me goosebumps.

    Blair Witch 2 deserves a mention. The makers brought a new form of horror to the masses, way ahead of it's time as we see now, and then they decide to cobble together a completely generic cash-in sequel and kill the series dead. They must be looking at Paranormal Activity 58 and thinking what could have been...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Zander1983


    has to be hangover 2


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Blair Witch 2 deserves a mention. The makers brought a new form of horror to the masses, way ahead of it's time as we see now, and then they decide to cobble together a completely generic cash-in sequel and kill the series dead. They must be looking at Paranormal Activity 58 and thinking what could have been...

    The makers of the original served as executive producers but they had no real input. The priduction company Haxan Films who were behind the first wanted to hold off till the hype was over before starting work on a sequel but Artisan wanted to cash in as quickly as possible and make a quick buck. Shame that the series ended with part two as the possibilities for sequels/prequels there is far more interesting than wgats been done with the Paranormal Activity series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    niallon wrote: »
    Also, how the flying f**k has nobody mentioned Kingdom of the Crystal Skull yet?!?!?!?!?!

    Because it doesn't exist. There were only 3 Indiana Jones movies.
    Zaph wrote: »
    Terminator 3 was pretty dire, but lucky for it Terminator Salvation saved it from being the worst sequel.

    I just spent 10 minutes wondering if Salvation was a prequel or a sequel. It's set after 3, but before 1. I decided that it was just sh*t and moved on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    I remember being really disappointed with Kingdom of Crystal Skulls, built that one up way too much.

    I was wary of Lucas after the new Star Wars trilogy but I thought with Speilberg on board everything would be kept in check.

    Seemingly not. Both have become lazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    Saw 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 3D

    The first one was brilliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    dumb and dumberer nuf said!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Both the Jungle Book and Lion King sequels should be indicted for crimes against children.

    Could be worse, The Land Before Time got twelve sequels. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    dilallio wrote: »
    For me .... Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) were very original movies, but the sequels were atrocious.

    Except Wes Craven's New Nightmare (the seventh in the series!) which is, in fact, fantastic!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Could Evan Almighty be considered a sequel to Bruce Almighty? If yes then that's my vote. Pure horse **** and the worst film I have ever paid to see in a cinema.


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